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What is the second wrong (real answer according to the laws not the referees imagination)
Im not sure there is one...
Well this is the real test for England, they need to get keep them out for the remainder of this game, need to close out games
Because the ref decided two wrongs dont make a right.
So dropping a shoulder into the tackle is not allowed? Completely bullshit decision. The ref should be ashamed when he looks back.
Always good to thrash the Aussies. Right, cmon Wales!
Farrell was lucky. As was the Aus 2nd row who dumped Daly. Just because you drop him doesn’t make it ok. Once you pick up a player you are responsible.
Flashes from H-Petty & Folau show what Aus are capable of. Foley completely ineffective at 12.
Alpin - Highlights of E v A on BBC2 at 7:30
Colby will be fun!
Not a bad win over Australia but we still look a bit blunt / inaccurate in attack with silly handling errors brining promising moves to a halt. Still persisted with giving away silly penalties too. Farrell needs a few lessons in tackling too because he’s going to come unstuck at some point if he keeps doing what he’s doing.
The pack went well today; Ben Moon has been really good this autumn given that he’s come out of nowhere from an international point of view. Sinckler has been good too. Lawes has a good game too. Back row has actually looked pretty balanced; will Wilson move to six once Billy is back? He’s had a good few games too. Joe C has had a good first few caps too.
Lots to work on (as there has been since forever). The 6N will be interesting next year.
Way hey 😀
Colby will be fun!
He he looks frightening.
I am exhausted just watching this!
You could have built a wall under the posts he was going to score
Sinckler did a good job of winding the Aussies up; he was picked up on the refs mic telling them that they were ‘all f*cking snitches’ and telling his opposing front tow members that they had stinky breath, live on tv.
So far so good from Wales.
Mindmap3 you didnt mention Mark Wilson. Hes been pretty good bearing in mind his global standing before November.
Wales cutting SA to pieces once they get in the 22 with two nicely worked tries. The SA defence is all over the place though.
So far so good from Wales.
They look lively. SA look strong & fit too this is going to be a rollercoaster. Anscombe and North looking particularly good.
He can kick!!
So SCO match was going to be the one to watch with WAL & Eng boring slugfests??
Mindmap - blunt in attack?? We scored 4 great tries, with plenty of good line breaks! You are Stephen Jones in disguise!
How far from Wales first team is this one? They are looking really good, but a few names I’m not that aware of.
How far from Wales first team is this one? They are looking really good, but a few names I’m not that aware of.
Faletau, Lydiate/Shingler, 1/2p and Moriarty has gone off early.
Oh and Samson Lee too.
Good to see strength in depth from all of the home nations now.
Mindmap – blunt in attack?? We scored 4 great tries, with plenty of good line breaks! You are Stephen Jones in disguise!
Not really. There were a lot of unforced errors when in a good position, it certainly wasn’t as slick as it could have been. Whilst there were a lot of line breaks, we were playing an Aussie team that’s not in a great place at the end of their season. The best teams in the world convert those breaks into something. A poor kick right at the end led to a consolation try too which was a shame. We still don’t seem to be able to play for the full 80 either - the first half wasn’t great after a quick try.
Wales struggling with a lack of bulk in the backrow, got 3 7's in the backrow.
Its also noticeable that when SA kick through 1/2p isnt there already. Not sure where Liam is!
So SCO match was going to be the one to watch with WAL & Eng boring slugfests??
Yup! That was the plan!
Glad I didn’t bother with the Scotland game; turgid is a word that’s been reoccurring in the press. Shame, because on paper it should have been an exciting game.
So SCO match was going to be the one to watch
I was so very, very, very wrong!
This game is a belter so far, though!
Think it was a tad wet up there, so no surprise really.
The fact we are complaining about only scoring 4 tries against Aus says a lot. Under the roof, Wales scored how many against them?
Under the roof, Wales scored how many against them?
We played a much stronger team!
I’m starting to feel increasingly uneasy.
Dear Wales please stop kicking to the little fast bloke!
Dear Wales please stop kicking to the little fast bloke!
Hes got some wheels hasn’t he? Sheesh.
SA pack well on top now.
Some of SA’s kicking is bloody woeful way too long. Wales doesn’t nag the right thing in the closing stages taking the theee when on offer.
Hope Jenkins is OK looks like a leg injury.
Good win that.
Building well to World Cup.
Ireland look great, England too, Wales decent. Scotland have gone backwards.
SA pack well on top now.
Indeed SA were very good I thought, so powerful. That win is promising for the World Cup, there will no doubt be a few tough games where Wales will need to hold out.
Nice one Wales!
Scotland’s unpredictability has become predictable! If you know what I mean?😜
Jesus Christ that game was exhausting to watch. I’ve got through four cans of SA already.
Colby is a talent, I really thought the boks were going to come back and win that.
Properly chuffed that the SH teams can’t come up north and expect to win anymore, it’s a far better game for it.
well done Wales, come on Scotland, bloody magnificent Ireland and of course, England are world beaters again!
looking forward to the six nations.... but now back to being a Leicester supporter and that’s depressing for sure!!!
looking forward to the six nations…. but now back to being a Leicester supporter and that’s depressing for sure!!!
Ha ha. Tough trip for you boys tomorrow to Allianz Park. They still have recruitment issues to sort next season.
It's at Welford road but we'll still get beat, Joe Ford at 10's a disaster!
Cheika really cheesed off about Farrell’s tackle going unpunished but surely it’s karma biting him in the arse after last week?
He is lucky to get away with it again but that’s hardly the sole reason that his team lost (again).
Did he forget to mention when his Lock picked up & dumped Daly ?
Fiji have just beaten France.
France have had a pretty poor autumn really. Good result for Fiji though.
Fiji!
Townsend has used these games to blood players, to give youngsters more experience and to try out combinations as a part of the WC build up. Some of his experiments have worked but most have not but we will be stronger for this. At no point has he put out or strongest side. Today was close to it. Perhaps he should have done for SA. We now know Hastings / Russell does not work as a midfield combo. I think Wilson may have played his way out of the squad
I think Scotlands main issue right now is captaincy. We don't have one! I hope Barclay is back for the 6N / WC
6/10 for the AIs. Its a sign of how far we have come in a short time that this is a disappointment
I didn’t watch the Eng v Aus game live, preferring the Scotland turgidness instead, followed by Wales. Unfortunately John Inversmug gave the game away by telling us that we really needed to watch the English highlights. That could only mean a comfortable win to England. Thanks John. 🙄
I wonder whether Michael Hooper’s head was the shape of a part-mashed potato before he started playing rugby. He’s a good advert for the dangers of the game. 😁
We now know Hastings / Russell does not work as a midfield combo.
I could have told you that last week.
Worryingly Townsend seems to think they didn't get the chance to shine with the weather so will try it again. Hmmmmmmmmm. We all know he was a maverick and likes to try crazy stuff but this one just seems wrong. Worth a try maybe and maybe worth looking at again in future once Hastings has a little more experience but right now? We need a specialist inside centre - Dunbar is the one we have that is fit with Taylor and Scott to come back into the reckoning once fit
Hastings is not up to international rugby yet but I suppose like Wales Scotland have to go with on the job training. Russel at 12 just gives every attack a target to run at.
Pish AA - Russell is a fine defender and tackler. He is not Farrell!
Everytime yesterday he lost ground to the attackers (having said that I did give up at half time) he can tackle sure but he doesnt knock people back
Anyone got any stats on how France were better than Fiji?
Don't get the Farrell hit. If it had been a back it would have been a red as that shoulder would have contacted the head. No intent to wrap, last man yellow and penalty try.
Like the way he thought about going for the "oh I'm hurt" ploy again
Pen try for certain, maybe yellow too. Wont be cited. Shameful from the ref.
If it's a penalty try, it's a yellow, and vice versa.
It was both. Dirty little shit of a player.
I don’t understand the need for debate. The non-tackle is clear, the ref was wrong and Farrell is walking a thin line to a ban.
Lol at Chieka moaning about NH rules and three disallowed tries which would have allowed Aus to win the game... he really is a whining idiot.
Well 50% of that video is a storm in a teacup. The other 50% could lose us the RWC, it needs sorting out.
My comment on red was about attacking player height. If it had been a player 6' or less that shoulder would have been straight to head and deliberate. Cips must be ****ing raging.
If it’s a penalty try, it’s a yellow, and vice versa.
True I suppose, but had it not been a try scoring chance it may not have been yellow.
Reminds me of Liams shoulder that lost us the test in SA.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2wtYc-PPCCE
To be fair the tip tackle could have been a yellow too but no where near as clear cut.
Piper isn't a particularly good ref he's just inconsistent. Mind you I think his mentor was Craig Joubert so he's on a hiding to nothing.
Like the way he thought about going for the “oh I’m hurt” ploy again
Glad someone else picked up on that.
Well 50% of that video is a storm in a teacup. The other 50% could lose us the RWC, it needs sorting out.
100% bellendery though no one can deny. The one against Wasps was appalling. That video would have been nicely ended by the schooling he got from Wilkinson 😀
Lol at Chieka moaning about NH rules and three disallowed tries which would have allowed Aus to win the game… he really is a whining idiot.
He's not the sharpest tool but if you watch SH rugby regularly then it is almost a different game at times so it is a fair comment. The forward pass was much more marginal than the commentary made you believe and was given as a try before the stadium replays. In the SH, rightly or wrongly, much worse gets let off. Got to see his unhappiness about the OF hit
Leicester v Saracens. George Worth took a high ball and ran full-bore into Dan Cole flattening himself in the process and being subbed off for HIA. Leicester try arguing with the ref that he’s wrong to give accidental offside, scrum to Sarries, because Cole made the tackle. (on his own team mate, remember.) If I was the ref I’d be tempted to agree and yellow card Cole for a high, no-arm tackle. 😂
Tigers did well to get something from that match. They had all the territory and possession in the first half but when Sarries scored three tries from nothing you kind of thought here we go go, they’re going to hand out a dicking. Obviously some very cynical play by Sarrries leading to two yellow cards at more of less the same time made it a bit easier.
Tigers look like a pretty blunt object; lots of huff and puff but not much else. Yes they’re missing players, but you can’t helo feel that they’re in for a king season.
Re Farrell; he is a tit and can’t tackle for shit. I really hope someone pulls him to one side to have a word because it is going to cost his team at some point. He’s an abrasive little sod for a fly half though.
Not sure how I missed this before
I liked the comment under the tweet: "Hello Gats, listen I've changed my mind. My Gran visited Porthcawl for a holiday once, does that count? If so I'm in." 😀
Schmidt to retire post World Cup, replaced by Farrell snr.
The fwd pass for the disallowed try was blatant even at full speed. Hands fwd, ball way fwd. The only question should be over Jackson not even querying it.
That's some opportunity for Farrell Snr. Has he been head coach at a club side before?
That would be some gig - first head coach with the reigning world champions!
These definitely get given. The linesman was happy and the referee was happy until the stadium replays. On the first angle I wouldn't call it blatant. The wider angle look more damning but is on an angle. The hands do look forward but there could be an argument for the hands being very flat. The relative velocity is the other key thing along with the hands and if you pause at 30:52 Haylett-Petty is juuuust ahead of the ball and Kerevi when he takes the ball. If I were English I would be upset to see it given but playing Devils advocate it does look closer then the one wider angle would first suggest
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That’s some opportunity for Farrell Snr. Has he been head coach at a club side before?
He coached Sarries in 2010 before jumping over in England under Lancaster.
He's obviously made a hell of an impression and has probably learned an awful from Schmidt. Big year next year for Irish rugby with Schmidt's retirement - chance to send him off as a winning coach. Lots on pressure on Farrell to continue their level of performance too.
Schmidt to All Blacks then?
He's said he's taking a break from coaching for family reasons but you never know
He’s said he’s taking a break from coaching for family reasons but you never know
Wheres his family?
He’s said he’s taking a break from coaching for family reasons but you never know
Maybe he'll play the old change of heart card or it s an offer too good to refuse... or he'll be good to his word, hang up his coaching gear and enjoy some time with his family.
Wheres his family?
I think I read that he has an elderly mum back in NZ which makes sense about wanting to head back.
Raka is apparently due to become a french citizen next month so will be available for selection in the 6N. Hopefully he won’t bring his try scoring record with him...