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Leinster / ulster but I wouldn't bet much on it.
Ulster Clermont for me
Certainly the Edinburgh / Ulster semi is the easier one. Leinster have looked awesome all season but clermont were great in the 1/4
Playing it down TJ? I've since discovered I'm at a wedding the day of the semi and a trade show on the final date. Not happy!!
BlindMelon- not really. IMO Leinster and Clermont are the two strongest teams and Ulster have the edge over Edinburgh especially away from Murreyfield.
Banahan useless swamp donkey
Chants of "give it to Banahan" at every opportunity. How we laughed!
So some wee inadequate pays money to abuse visiting players, not watch a cracking game. Thinks that buying a ticket OBVIOUSLY gives him the right to do so,feels he is the big man as he giving a 6" 7" 19 stone guy abuse without any payback. Large Frenchman reacts, so fan cries foul. Got what he deserved IMO
Derek Brennan got his career ended for the same thing, he is certifiable though 😯
Trevor Brennan you mean
Duckman, i agree. I wouldnt give Meastri abuse though scary looking bloke.
I thought this regarding the callum clark ban intrrsting
http://rugbylaw.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/calum-clark-citing-decision.html?m=1
A-A; what do you think of Howley leading the Summer tour? If he is half a good a coach he was a player, Wales are in good hands. That blog makes me hate him even more.
Blind melon Yes I did, thanks for the correction. 🙂
Jury is still out on Howley tbh. He's not got that much experience and has been attack coach for wales for a while. During this time the attsck has been the weak link. This maybe due to Gatlands very conservative approach though. Suprised Edwards wasnt chosen but i expect he will go with Gatland on tbe Lions tour so Howley needs experience. I expect Wales to get a kicking in Aus anyway. Get well soon Gatland.
Howley was a brilliant nine, best in the world for a time.
In deed he was, in a poor team. If i recall he made Dawson look silly for the last ever try at the Arms Park.
Howley was one of the greatest, rumour says he used to have a gambling problem.
I was on 5 live once and said to Dawson he wasn't a great scrum half and that Howley was 10 times the player he was 😀 he just laughed and went on to the next caller.
8.25ish for one of my favs
2% of NI population headin' to Dublin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17860804
Ulster should be at full strength apart from the suspended John Afoa, win by 10-15 points I reckon
SUFTUM
Ulster starting young Jackson at fly half, a bold move in such a high pressure game, looking forward to a cracker!!!
Edinburgh all the way - forwards to boss the set piece adn breakdown. fliers in the backs to rack up a hatful of tries
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.Hopefully 🙂 In reality a close game with Ulster favourites adn rightly so
Well well well - Edinburgh attack against Ulster defence with ulster stopping them Surely they will get tired and Ulster lucky not to get a second yellow card at the end of the half.
No more scrums near the edinburgh line please 🙂
Have to agree TJ ferris should have been binned, however Ulster haven't got their attacking game going at all. Fitzpatrick going well at scrum time
How was that a scrum pen to edi
What is this Heinekin Cup? Why dont they let the welsh teams play?
Cause there aren't any players left in Wales?
Ferris trying to take Visser on the outside- cracker
Cause there aren't any players left in Wales?
The Blues still have Sweeney and Gavin Evans, everyone is too scared to play these mighty men imo.
True I forgot about those giants from the valleys! Result Ulster pen
Ah well then, at least we didn't look out of place in a Hiney semi-final.22-12, no way back.
Edit....Bit of pride at the end.
Game over TJ ?
Yeeeeeoooooooo!!!!!
Ulster stood up when it counted during the yeloow card and also when Edinburgh were camped on the line and stopped Edinburgh scoring. Pinnaar was great mind you so was Greg Laidlaw - took a ball off a n ulster forward on the line 🙂
Edinburgh needed a try during the first half when they had the dominence and didn't get it.
Well done Ulster 🙁
Yeah I think the yellow card period was crucial and possibly the turning point mentally for both sides, the Ulster scrum was outstanding considering Fitzy was up against a seasoned international. Edinburgh would possibly have sneeked it had they remembered to put the Pritt stic on their hands.
I agree Laidlaw was fantastic and had a couple of big turnovers. Fords performance will have gone a long way in placing Best ahead of him in the pecking order for the Lions hooker berth.
http://www.espnscrum.com/heineken-cup-2011-12/rugby/match/144348.html
Stats make interesting / depressing reading, Edinburgh did twice as much as Ulster but couldn't get the scores.
Still, at least I can enjoy the final without swearing at the tv.
Barnes is a ****, come on frenchies!!!
Jesus, christ... barnes doesnt want Clemont to win!
And the Barnes in the commentry box, doesnt seem to have spotted its the Clemont pack doing the damage.
barnes obviously lost his yellow cards
Cracking match and I don't think the ref got any major decisons wrong.
He didnt allow a sode dominant in the scrum to take advantage and he failed to bin any irisher despite a string of cynical offences. Clermont played all the rugby and lost. Fair play to Leinster well done but they are horrible to watch.
Well done to Ulster and Leinster for making it an all-Irish final. The two outstanding sides during the pool stages have made it through.
Who to shout for now...?
Fair play to Leinster well done but they are horrible to watch.
Comedy gold, that.
Clermont played all the rugby and lost.
Really? Hardly made a break and didn't look threatening to me
Hmmmm - stats would seem to show they had more of the ball and did more with it except make breaks
http://www.espnscrum.com/heineken-cup-2011-12/rugby/match/144349.html
Welcome back dd are you going to hang about. Great for Irish rugby but couldn't care less who wins 😆
Welcome back dd are you going to hang about.
'spect so
Great for Irish rugby but couldn't care less who wins
It'll make up a wee bit for such a crap 6N. For me, Leinster are a more attractive side to watch, but Ulster out-munstered Munster at their own game. I'm just hoping for a good game.
Not looking for stats tj but i thought Sivivatu was excellent, Fofana did well despite screwing up the try opportunity. They ran from deep too much though.
Darcey, you think Leinster play attractive rugby do you? I suppose compared to Munster.....
Forwards smashing the snot out of other forwards, that is a dream final IMO. Bone shuddering collisions around the fringes, rucking and counter rucking that leaves men scarred for life, and at least one prop who is there just to break other props. THAT is my ideal match/team.
Not one for the finer arts then Duckman? A subtle sidestep, a pinpoint pass, some sleight of hand?
A subtle sidestep, a pinpoint pass, some sleight of hand?
It's ok, hopefully BOD will be there. 😉
To be fair to Leinster i dislike much/most modern rugby unless I'm invested in it. I strayed onto rugby dump a couple of days ago and watched their roundup of the s14 week and saw tries scored from scrums. **** me i'd forgotten what a completed scrum looked like.
In other news nice to see The Hask putting it too the colonials 😀
http://www.scoop.co.nz/multimedia/tv/sports/65743.html
A subtle sidestep, a pinpoint pass, some sleight of hand?
TJ; have you just come out? It's ok if you are...
deadlydarcy - Member
A subtle sidestep, a pinpoint pass, some sleight of hand?
It's ok, hopefully BOD will be there.POSTED 45 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST
And don't you be getting ideas above your station you wee shite 😉
Who to shout for now...?
Ulster forever? 😆
Problem with Barnes is he is one Ref where at least one set of fans per match end up slagging him off more than most ref's although to be fair he seems to get some big decisions spot on.
DD nice to see you back, I'm assuming that you are only starting to come to terms with Ulsters victory in Limerick now!
Just one more huge effort from Ulster and you never know!!!
Much as you'd like that to be true BM, I managed to get over it just fine, but thanks for your concern. Remember. Gloating: the refuge of the insecure. 😉
You'll have to go some to beat Leinster, but you've shown that anything's possible. Best of luck to both sides.
Cipriani given the push from the rebels, seems to be going the way of Gavin, bit sad for such a talent.
A-A I have made a point of watching the Rebels just to see Cipriani, he has not been any better than he was at the end of his Wasps career mores the pity. Maybe the move to Sale will give him something to aim/focus for as he was never playing for England while in the Colonies.
That leg break was horrific..... but like with Henson people always focus on the off field stuff as the reason.
For me, Henson is the better player but I'm more attracted to Cipriani. He's just a bit sexier.
Cipriani was a teen sensation, how old was Henson at time of 1st slam? (waits for A-A to tell me to nearest second 😀 )
For me, Henson is the better player but I'm more attracted to Cipriani. He's just a bit sexier.
you bitch 😈
Cipriani was a teen sensation, how old was Henson at time of 1st slam? (waits for A-A to tell me to nearest second )
Henson is what 30 now so in 2005 was erm..... about 24. Henson was world young player of the year and I'm pretty sure made his Wales debut at 19.
PSA highlights on ITV4 now for anyone interested.
Anyone else think it seems a bit odd that both Farral and Smith have turned down the assistant coach job with england?
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Nope - its a poisoned chalice
Well paid though and seems to have some decent players coming through in time for a home world cup... obviously Andy Rbinson should stay in his dream job but others? Its also strange that its getting as far as being common knowledge in the press that its been offered, and then it gets turned down. Seems odd to me.
I suspect tehy know that theis England team willnot match expectations and thus they are likely to be sacked again - that and they don't want the edia pressure
I think no one wants to be an assistant to a nobody myself.
I think it has a lot to do the Rob Andrew still overseeing and generally cocking up everything to do with this selection(s). Seriously, if anyone else performed as badly as that bloke, they'd be sacked without question.
Looking at the media reports, it looked as if Smith wanted to be head coach, not backs / attack coach. I guess he thought he was probably higher in the pecking order than Lancaster (who'd argue?) and didn't want the bit position.
Agree that with all the 'second choice' coaches that are getting in, this team's going to under achieve again. I predict a sacking after the next six nations...
They should offer it to Harry Rednap.
Who are all the coaches for england? Lancaster as head coach is inexperienced, mike catt going as backs coach hes inexperienced, who else? Not sure Andrew or whoever have learnt from giving Johnson the job.
No, he's certainly not. He's also going to squeeze out of the blame for any cock up after employing the services of a 'head hunter' firm, who came up with no alternatives to the temporary coach... They then offered Lancaster's first choice backs coach a pittance (compared to standard salaries for that position) to ensure he didn't take it, so the could appoint Smith, who then decided he didn't want it. Now they've got Catt (but only temporarily for now...) who's a brilliant rugby brain (when playing) but hasn't set the world on fire for London Irish. It's a story of appalling management by the RFU and Rob Andrew in particular.
The other coach is Graham Rowntree, ex Leicester prop (and a bloody good one) he seems to be a decent forwards coach despite a lack of experience, certainly he's the only one who came out the world cup with honours clear.
Hope you are all going to SUFTUM!!!!
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Stand up for the Ulster Men!!!!
Shame for the neutral its an all ireland game in a way. I shall be supporting ulster but expect leinster to be too composed under pressure.
Couldnt care less to be honest, Hope it is a good game and being selfish I hope Leinster do it and are not bothered about the Rabo 12.
Thanks Blindmelon