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Bloody Henson would be better than Tompkins
Till anybody added beer TJ.
Scotland are going to run away with this 😩😭😫
You lot, honestly, I've seen wales win from here so many times. It is still anyone's game. Good game for a neutral.
Doesn't look that bad from first look.
Ok second is bad
Arse
Really? Very harsh.
Not enough mitigation? You charge in like that then its always going to at risk of a red
No way...and I'm Welsh...yellow at most
Pivac is a lucky bastard
You lot, honestly, I’ve seen wales win from here so many times
Yup. Its happening again
Fagerson changes his line as the welsh player moves away, to stay on him, its red to me. (Seen in comparison to the Irish red last week)
Pivac is a lucky bastard
It was already going Wales way before the red.
I feel a bit sorry for Fagerson, but ruck clean-outs are dangerous. If we are serious about player protection and head contact you can’t argue “He had to hit him as he was on the ball” as the commentator said.
If his shoulder hit his head with force ( it did) its a red.
the question to me is not so much whether intended or not, but with increased emphasis on player protection when going in for that sort of challenge the player has to consider what happens if it goes wrong / what will it look like. Sport's about decision making and he made a wrong decision that created the possibility of the offence.
Well we saw it last week, so its clear that contact like that is not allowed. No sympathy from me.
Piss poor defence
Yeah but that attack from wales then was great.
What a try
Zammit looking a problem here
You said?
Welsh try was from a forward pass.
Hogg has played even better this week than last week.
wtf was price doing kicking it
Bugger
Commiserations to TJ and Duckman et Al...great game
What an utterly stupid kick from Price.
Bloody hell!
Don't be being all magnanimous now AA!
Wales were immense, they were gonna win that anyway, regardless of the red. Really good game that.
Tense. Great game. No losers there
Holy crap, every time I went to another room the winner was changing!
Should have gone back through to the mess room 😢
Don’t be being all magnanimous now AA!
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Big shift from Beard, Botham could be special, Zammit is special.
5plusn8
Free Member
Wales were immense, they were gonna win that anyway, regardless of the red. Really good game that.
Crack is whack kids, here is the evidence.
Zammit is special.
He is.
Crack is whack kids, here is the evidence.
Dry yer eyes ducky.
It will be typical Wales to get a Grand Slam out of this. Personally I don’t give a stuff about Championships decided on who puts the most points on Italy
Show me where I predicted a Scotland win? You on the other hand were suggesting a comfortable Wales win. You also seem ( unlike everybody else who has ever watched/played the game) that the sending off had no impact. At least you are consistent in the bollocks you spout based on the last 2 weeks. You arse is still sore from losing to us last week, isn't it?
Mate, you lost, it happens, try not to be upset.
I said clearly before the red that Wales often win from here. My experience as an England fan is that if you put early points on Wales its a surefire way to make the fire in their bellies even stronger. When Wales score before half time you knew it was on. Might be bollocks to you, but the me its just what they do. Make them the underdogs before or during the game and they will fight like hell. They did, it was a commensurate Wales performance. I am not looking forward to facing them now. They bloody always do this.
You need to grow up and stop throwing insults around because you are upset about losing.
Ps I wasn't sore about losing, we lost, we deserved it, I said that clearly many times, I don't remember being rude to the first Scot that crowed about winning.
PPS I still think England are shit, that was a poor win against a massively improving Italy.
What a great game.
Again, show me where I predicted a Scotland win or moaned about losing? Maybe you should take your own advice though?
Ps I wasn’t sore about losing, we lost, we deserved it, I said that clearly many times, I don’t remember being rude to the first Scot that crowed about winning.
Did you ****! We were having a go at YOU because according to you Scotland didn't win, you lost.
Scotland didn’t do any of that, rjeally all they had to do was turn up, we gifted that game.
Who wrote that pearl of wisdom?
So for England
Liam
Zammit
North
JBR Williams/Halaholo
Adams
Bigger
Tomos Williams/Davies
Faletau
Tipuric
Navidi
Beard
AWJ
Francis
Owens
Jones
Who wrote that pearl of wisdom?
Me, and I stand by it, we lost, I berated us for losing, I didn't say you were on crack for anything you said, I don't see the problem with what I said. England were not very good and still don't look great.
TBh I think the real problem here is that for about a week you believed what Dawson said about Scotland being as good as the all blacks.
North
Is he gonna be able to play?
I am not relishing our game with Wales , Rees_Zammit is really very good. Loopy Liam is still showing his devastating side when he wants to, Tips was awesome, 1/2p imperious most of the time. Too many dangers.
To be honest all England need to do is keep 15 men on the field and Wales will fold. 😉
That red card shows how out of touch with the rules I am.
I played for about 25 years and throughout that time that would have been a perfectly legal clear out (albeit my playing time ended 15 years ago).
I was watching the replays after the ref called to see them waiting for the infringement to be shown. Times have changed.
(Leading with the elbow on the other hand used to be a walking offence I’m sure)
That was bloody great 😂🏴😂🏴😂🏴
That was a great game.
Ironic that Hogg played even better than last week but was on the losing side.
That Zammit boy is pretty special though.
Hard to say whether Wales would have won without Fagerson's red. Scotland hung on very well with 14 though.
England were bloody awful, we didn’t score any tries, gave up umpteen penalties, got very few turnovers, lost the ball in hand, lost lots of lineouts and scrums, and knocked on quite a lot. That was shyte. Scotland didn’t do any of that, really all they had to do was turn up, we gifted that game
Also ducky you sore loser, I didn't say Scotland didn't do anything to win, you have misquoted me quite dishonestly. Scotland did not do any of the crap things england did, sounds like a compliment to the winners to me.
Oh no you didn't. But I am reminded of a famous Mark Twain quote so won't indulge you further.
igm
Full Member
To be honest all England need to do is keep 15 men on the field and Wales will fold.
Don't be daft, a numerical advantage has no influence in international rugby.
1/2p imperious most of the tim
He's a liability these days.
Snideways comments, you are not even brave enough to insult me now. Stop crying mate.
He’s a liability these days
I agree he isn't what he once was, but compare that with Mays performance against Scotland which was a laughable liability, doesn't stop him being dangerous on a good day..
😄😄😄
1/2p imperious most of the tim
He’s a liability these days.
Nah, he’s still outstanding imho. I hope he’s okay, he’s had far too many head knocks.
I’m hoping England play Farrell, they’re not as good with him on the field at the moment, from what I see. I thought England were rather poor again today, mainly with their composure.
If Ireland beat France tomorrow then the Tournament remains wide open.
Nah, he’s still outstanding imho. I hope he’s okay, he’s had far too many head knocks.
I thought England were rather poor again today, mainly with their composure.
Apparently this opinion, which pretty much mirrors mine, is bollocks.
Halfpenny is still a reliable defensive player so "liability" is maybe harsh but he offers nothing in attack.
Which reminds me I was watching some Lions in NZ stuff on ewetube last week, couple of things struck me, Joseph is a cracking player and that bloke pretending to be Elliot Daly today is a very pale imitation of the real one.
Well played to Wales, better team won. Scotland made too many mistakes and gave away some stupid penalties. The red card was correct imo.
Halfpenny is still a reliable defensive player so “liability” is maybe harsh but he offers nothing in attack.
Yeah his counterattack isn't what it was, but I was referring to his defence, catching, positioning in defence etc. He is hard to get past.
He isn't like Hogg. **** me he makes shit out of nothing.
Daly should be in the wing. There is something weird about Jones, he ruins good players but makes improving ones good.
The less said about Joseph the better, annoyed he isn't in the squad. He is free for next game I think?
5plus8
Picks up a copy of Twain's collected writings as he waits for him to post a quote from me predicting a Scotland win or moaning about losing ever.
Ducky stop flirting, I've got a squeeze and your make up running isn't attractive.
The way you contradict yourself you will probably be PM'ing me in 15 mins. But the answer is still no.
5plusn8
Free Member
Prediction for Scotland vs Wales?I’m going for Wales by at least a converted try..
Posted 2 days ago
I'm just gonna put this here, as an example of my contradictory bollocks.
Still no.
So predictions for tomorrow?
If France win then the last game of the champs has the potential to be the decider.
France to win, handily.
Yeah, I guess the question is are France now a consistent team or mercurial like usual?
Yeah, I guess the question is are France now a consistent team or mercurial like usual?
I think that question has been answered over the past 12 months. Imho they are the real deal. Absolutely fantastic to watch. Everybody is lauding DuPont, but rightly so - he is astounding. His step is amazing; he consistently doesn’t brake stride but sends defenders the wrong way. His decision making is incredible (quick nod to Tipuric’s here too) - he’s potentially the new Henson he’s so exciting to watch 😏. The whole team is disciplined and show a level of composure England can only dream of.
disciplined and show a level of composure
These are only two of the things England should be dreaming of.
I'd like to see some invention or adventure, and the ability to adapt when your game plan isn't working.
Jones "The teams that kick the most win the most"
Farrell " Must obey and kick this ball straight to Hogg"
these are only two of the things England should be dreaming of.
I think composure is the main thing. A number of their players are rusty and they try to rush/force things. Farrell is not playing well and doesn’t appear to do well when things are going badly, he gets agitated and becomes a liability. Ford brings much better performances from the team. England have very good players but they’re not allowed to play freely, I think they need a different coach.
Actually I think I’ve just reiterated what you said 😀
Just for those that dismissed my suggestion he jumped over the tackle
https://twitter.com/i/status/1360605794656522241
Nigel Owens MBE
@Nigelrefowens
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11h
Should be pK he jumps up to avoid tackle that’s not a dive for the line
I thought the corner flag was ‘in touch’ - he clearly touches it before grounding the ball.
ditch jocky - it used to be but was changed a few years ago
I thought the refs didn't have a good game.
And AWJ was lucky to see out the match. He came out of a few contacts looking very dazed. And D'Arcy's first head knock was a swinging awj arm (unintentional but..)
My dad phones me every match and says he doesn't understand the rules nowadays, neither do I.
Lawes had a clear out stand where he clearly had hands on ground and it led to a try.
I saw that lawes one
the ref was poor in the england match - his first 6 N match and it showed
I thought the ref in the England game was poor, but TBH I always do!
Wales Scotland ref was generally ok I thought.
Fagersons red was correct and he clearly came in to get revenge for Jones's borderline hit on Watson as the whistle went a few mins before.
Impressed with the impact Gethin Jenkins is having on defence. Think Scotland coaches dropped a bollock taking off the winger, the gaps in Wales defence were around Watkins lack of gas at 13 and we had Tompkins on the other wing
Red was fine, Fagerson was a dumb payback hit, but as pointed out above AWJ was a lucky boy earlier on. Look for the London Irish red yesterday, going forward this is part of the game and it isn't really a bad thing. Nothing to separate the teams over the game in my opinion. Be good to watch this afternoon as a neutral,and the French have dropped Thomas? That is a scary set of backs bearing in mind how he was flying in the Cup.
but as pointed out above AWJ was a lucky boy earlier on
It was Wyn Jones, not Alun-Wyn Jones, I mean the names are clearly very different 🤪
I knew that before I typed...doh!
My other random thought before I stopped watching the England game and went for a quick turbo session was would someone please tell Ugo Monye to shut the **** up...Christ he just goes on and on about the same point all the time.
I liked Warburtons commentary, informative and he is mostly objective. On ITV Wilkinson is pretty good too. I would leave Woodward out.