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If I could I'd bring back Broon fae Troon. He'd ahem have to make several small adjustments to play in the modern game.
Picking someone from outside Scotland probably Peter Stringer.
Is that the series Broom played with a broken shoulder/scapula?
Oh it's as though I had time to write about my annoyance.
Yeah my question was you have to select someone not on your side, you wish you had, i.e. from one of the other nations. And I always assumed you were an England fan.
Oh sorry I missed that, and your are right. In which case, mine would be John Jeffrey. Hard as nails flanker.
John Jeffry. made of granite thus had his own gravity field which allowed him to be onside even when he wasn't 🙂
onside even when he wasn’t
Its a back row thing, see Richie McCaw..
Don't know @onehundredthidiot but it is the one where he knocked out an opponents glass eye.
On reflection the greatest fighters of the 74 Lions tour were John Taylor and Gerald Davies who ruled themselves out of that tour because of apartheid
http://en.espn.co.uk/scrum/rugby/story/233499.html
Didn't they give him the glass eye a few years ago?
Love it.
John Jeffry
Skinny and ill-looking...Horrendous to play against. He was just a mess of sharp angles,all moving really quickly. Oh;and he never shut up during a game.
Richard Hill( back row, not the angry scrum half) Just the complete back rower.
BoD. Genius rugby IQ in a hookers body.
Yeah BoD was awesome, shame about the lions tour shoulder injury, he was on fire prior to that.
I did my PhD in the agriculture department at Newcastle Uni, a menacing picture of John Jeffrey was on the wall opposite the main office, always gave me the shivers!!
He was just a mess of sharp angles,all moving really quickly.
Our seconds inside centre was like that, I use to hate playing with him, because if I had to join him in a backs ruck or maul I stood a good as chance as getting an elbow or knee in the face as the oppo.
menacing picture of John Jeffrey was on the wall opposite the main office, always gave me the shivers!!
I've posted this before; I met him on a train platform in the Scottish Borders. I was shitting myself but plucked up the courage to speak to him and although he still looked very menacing in civvies - someone you wouldn't mess with in a pub for sure - he was really nice to speak with.
JJ always looked shattered at the start of a match, he wasn't called the white shark for nothing. Finlay Calder had a knack of turning up just where the opponents didn't want him to be. Derek White maybe less visible but no less of a player than either of those two
Richard Hill( back row, not the angry scrum half) Just the complete back rower.
The Ospreys had demolished Leicester convincingly, and a week or two later went to Welford Road in the Euro Cup, full of confidence about the big win they were about to achieve. Unfortunately Richard Hill had been brought back into the team, a little early as one of his legs wasn't fully working. He singlehandedly ripped the Ospreys apart...
onside even when he wasn’t
Its a back row thing, see Richie McCaw..
Lyn Jones famously calling for the ball off Robert Jones. Lyn was standing between Robert Jones and the 10 at a lineout. Lyn played for Llanelli, Robert for Swansea. Lyn was very amused that he got away with it, when asked later..
Might be of interest
Welsh First |Minister set to make an announcement about pub opening for the big match
https://twitter.com/JacotheNorth/status/1362002829808967683
Training at Edinburgh accies Findlay Calder taking rucking practice for backs.
"A good ruck is better than sex an day of the week, I've only been in two great rucks. Don't tell the wife I said that"
He believed that there should be four points of contact with the defender. Knee, elbow,point of shoulder and head minimum. If you could swivel a hip and get the point of the ball in too then all the better.
His stint at Stu Mel as coach was legendary. They were getting hosed and he got the players together at half time and enquired who else has seen the fair young maiden on the touchline and gave a fairly detailed description of how well she was upholstered to anybody who had missed her.
Edit; Welshfarmer...I was thinking "wtf, their rates are still high!" for the first 30 secs. Doffs cap.
Not sure I could choose between BoD or Sam Warburton.....both were at peak power when England were really lacking in their position. Honourable mention to Adam Jones....during his era/the previous set of scrum rules, did anyone ever really dominate him? He was less effective than others around the pitch though 😂
DuPont COVID-19 +ve - hoping he gets well soon! How many more to come? Next game(s)??
This does not bode well for France's further involvement. I hope they postpone the games like before if it goes beyond 1 or 2 players.
(TBH Dupont is almost worth postponing it over alone)
TBH I can’t see the 6N being completed this spring. It’ll end up like last year.
The three cases in the French camp will be just the tip of the iceberg across all of the nations.
With the pressure on the government to reopen ASAP, even a slight relaxing of restrictions will have an impact of players. Simply because they are living in bubbles, as soon as a camp gets one case it’ll race through the rest of them. With some players being released back to their clubs or regions it’ll open them up to new groups of people. They all can’t be isolating from their families indefinitely.
Yeah that's an unfortunately accurate prediction.
Not good news ( unless Scotland get to play a weakened French team 😉 )
Not good news ( unless Scotland get to play a weakened French team 😉 )
Then we’ll hear frequently over the next 10 years how Scotland’s great team of 2021 won two away games 😏😂😀
I've been wondering all week about how covid bubbles in squads work when so many Welsh (and I expect Scots) have gone back to play for their clubs this week.
Don't be daft gauss1777 this will just be seen as the start of the great decade of Scottish rugby.
Joking aside, should Scotland beat France under whatever circumstances, then with Italy and Ireland at home left to play they’d be in a very nice situation.
You beat them last year.
Harsh for France, a 2xv for the decider in the Autumn...was that not the start of the great decade for English rugby? And now uncertainty around what I suspect would be a French slam all over covid. They would beat us easily and will be pissed at the English so I fancy them for that. That leaves Wales and they have to run out of gas sooner or later.
That leaves Wales and they have to run out of gas sooner or later.
I have voodoo dolls of all the other teams, whoever I stick a pin in gets a red card!!!
I fully expect us to rinsed by the French, Dupont or not*. They mullered us last year and they were not as good as they looked against Ireland this year, more complete.
Englands game is now too easy to unpick, and when you do they all fall to bits.
*It remains to be seen if Dupont is like the keystone, I doubt it, but as they are all a bit new his loss might shake them enough to give us a chance.
I have voodoo dolls of all the other teams, whoever I stick a pin in gets a red card!!!
Do Farrell he needs a lesson.
Why oh why do rugby players go for winker haircuts? Just been watching Glasgow / Ulster and there are loads of really stupid haircuts on the pitch. skullets. Shaved bar the top of the head ( not a fade) Bleached hair all over.
Jeepers
I have voodoo dolls of all the other teams, whoever I stick a pin in gets a red card!!!
Do Farrell he needs a lesson.
If AA did stick Faz, he’d only go down like a snipers target, feign injury whilst playing peek-a-boo to see if the ref was looking.
AA Are you Squidge?
You said around 17-3 was when Scotland started losing control, Squidge agrees..
Has anyone seen them both in the same room?
It was obvious to anyone watching - I said the same myself. the turning point was the obstruction pen when we should have scored, 2 pens later and Wales get a 5m lineout and score
We could still have won after than but it was such an obvious and huge momentum shift and Wales also exploited the space out wide from the lack of a winger really well. IIRC Wales also started playing off 9 rather than 10
Squidge is much funnier ( ha ha) whereas AA is only funny peculiar 😉
the turning point was the obstruction pen when we should have scored,
That was massive.
Biggars form is an odd one as he has apparently been playing well for Northampton, although he doesn't have Davies chucking pies at his head or ankles for them. Davies has to bench next game but is Hardy up to starting v England?
Squidge is much funnier ( ha ha) whereas AA is only funny peculiar
https://giphy.com/gifs/how-dare-you-greta-thunberg-howdareyou-SuIDKboVhHgtLPG6zm
I am always amazed by Wales ability to change their state of mind, its not skills or tactics, its emotional. (Yes they contribute, but there has to be something to build on) And that's actually critical.
In the vid squidge shows how Scotland became crestfallen, and it seemed there was no way back, most teams are like that. We've seen Wales look crest fallen, and then turn it on a sixpence, basically they just won't go down. It's annoying.
(I'm just setting up my excuses in advance of next weekends loss)
Its odd how all teams seem to have "bogie" teams. Wales are ours. Even when we are playing well and well on top we seem to be able to throw it away - mind you we appear to be Englands Bogie team nowadays which almost makes up for it
The whole NH are Englands bogie team. We are much more confident against Aus, AB's, SA.
Scotland currently seem a bit like AU's but without the belief. Australia have beaten Wales 240 000 times in the last 10 years or so, often in very close games with last min scores as they back there skills and just keep going expecting that sooner or later it will come good, if Scotland can get that mentality they could go places
I thought we were getting it. Cockers at Edinburgh stopped them being softies but we seem to have regressed a bit again
We create loads of chances nowadays but convert very few. IIRC wales scored every opportunity they got, we missed half a dozen tries. the obstruction call ( which was right) the tap tackle on Duhan, A scoring pass knocked on etc etc
We showed great attitude against England but even then missed 3 clear chances and that kept England in the game
Don't take this the wrong way, but hasn't this always been the case.
We create loads of chances nowadays but convert very few.
the tap tackle on Duhan
That was just a really good tackle. Hardly impotence on Scotlands part.
No it hasn't.
OK, I remember loads of games in the last 10 years where Scotland look good, but never cross the line.
It's hardly an outrageous claim.
EG
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/russell-thinks-scotland-are-working-hard-to-ditch-nearly-men-tag-36708576.html
AS a Scotland fan of decades I can categorically tell you getting over the line has not been our issue always. go back ten years our game was to defend like hell and kick goals. Won us a good few games but try scoring chances were rare
Go back 5 years and we were scoring tries for fun but as leaky as a seive so we only won if we got 3 or 4 tries per match
go back 3 years and we stopped creating chances at all again
Nearly men - yes but not converting try scoring opportunities has not been a consistent issue
Fair enough.
yes but not converting try scoring opportunities has not been a consistent issue
Biggest problem has been scoring more points than the opposition.
Never get tired of watching this celebration 😂😂
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPKCC9gEvAc
Yup - 38 pts against England was not enough!
Aa - you must remember the days of the backs to the wall Scottish defense and laidlaw kicking pens to win us games 9:6
Never get tired of watching this celebration
You have to have sympathy, its just slipped out of his hands, it's not like he was capricious about it with a swallow dive or anything.
Aa – you must remember the days of the backs to the wall Scottish defense and laidlaw kicking pens to win us games 9:6
Mostly just lost tbh.
Not to worry I remember Wales from 1988-2004!!!
Oooh interesting end to Chiefs vs Saints, Simmonds was disrupted during conversion kick and ref rules he had started his run up. Kick would have won the match.
Farrell missed a couple the other day when the Italians ran at him. We have got used to kickers being left alone, but in the 80's we ran at the conversion attempts every single time.
Edit - I didn't explain this - the opposition starting running at him and he maintained he had not started his run up, ref said he had..
Started his run by moving his shoulder apparently.
Started his run by moving his shoulder apparently.
I only saw a clip sent by a mate that was the aftermath.
Just read this quote from Baxter, I like his attitude.
“As far as I can tell, I think ‘Simmo’ moved, they charged and that’s what you are allowed to do,” said Baxter. “Until I watch the video I don’t know, but in a lot of ways it is irrelevant to me.
“It is not the referee’s decision at the end which has decided that game. We’ve not taken our opportunities, which is a little bit uncharacteristic of us, and you have to give Northampton massive credit for how they fought on their try-line.
“We weren’t bang on. There are a few things we can look at. It was a tough game of rugby, Northampton played their part in it, and we have come up a shade short.
“Sometimes that’s the way of the rugby gods. He was up there thinking ‘I’m not sure Exeter deserve to win this’. Sometimes it works like that.”
Baxter is a great coach and has the right attitudes IMO
3 reds in the Tigers Wasps game yesterday! 2 for ruck/maul entry. Interesting phrasing used by Maxwell-Keys in his discussion with the video ref especially in the second one. As Brookes went into the maul his binding arm was caught by somebody else and so it was shoulder first. Clear that his arm was stopped and discussed by ref/VR but as the initial contact was always going to be high and therefore illegal, away he went.
Started his run by moving his shoulder apparently.
Biggar is ****ed!
I think it’s harsh to say Biggar is ****. He doesn’t quite play as some want for Wales at the moment but has had a successful run at no10 for Wales with a pretty good rate of success. Sure he’s not the running threat that some other fly halfs and isn’t as exciting as some as a result but I don’t know why he gets such stick. He’s been playing well for Northampton and really upped his game there. He’s in the worlds top ten best paid rugby player iirc?
Think the biggar comment was more along the lines that he's shafted if refs start counting shoulder movement as part of a conversion run up.
See vid
Baxter is a great coach and has the right attitudes IMO
Agreed. I think Scotland’s captain’s improvement and newfound maturity is largely down to his move to Chiefs. 😀
Baxter said he would make better players out of him and ickle Jonny and so far is good to his word
Yep, see that now.
I don't think Biggar will be the only victim either, there are a few other performers out there.
Did he go over the 60 seconds then?
Class move anyway.
No - he moved forward so stringer did the "charge down" in his cheeky way
In other news France now have 5 positive cases but are insisting they will still fufill the fixture. I don'rt know how to think about that. On one hand its good for Scotland but onthe other it devalues the tournament.
On one hand its good for Scotland
Not if the match becomes a Super Spreader event!
Might infect all the Scottish players!
I don’rt know how to think about that. On one hand its good for Scotland but onthe other it devalues the tournament.
In 10 years time it will be a result you look up on wikipedia..
as they are being tested daily then the chances of infection being spread in a weeks time is close to zero
This vid shows a little step before the kick.
https://twitter.com/BenKay5/status/1363246106092703754?
Some of the comments say there was shouting and claiming it's illegal so should have been a retake anyway?
Also french squad 10 tested +ve now. and 4 staff.
New cases include Ollivon.
All 10 are Ollivon, R. Taofifenua, Mauvaka, Baille, Haouas, Marchand, Vincent, Villiere, Dupont and Dulin.