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Whom is first choice 9 for Wales if all are fit? I always think that Gareth Davies looks the best.
Its all a bit up in the air whichever of the three is available. Tomos is the younger improving player, Webb most reliable, Davies is limited in a number of areas but is an attacking threat.
Hayward out https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/breaking-wales-coach-hayward-leaves-19243620
Not exactly great timing but the defence has been shit!
Another question TJ….whom are the 10’s at the Scottish domestic sides?
I forgot Nathan Chamberlain at Edinburgh. He is the backup 10. In his forst pro year having come out of the under 20 setup
Ireland to play Wales on friday
Ireland: Stockdale; Keenan, Farrell, Henshaw, Lowe; Sexton, Gibson-Park; Healy, Kelleher, Porter; Henderson, Ryan; O'Mahony, van der Flier, Doris.
Replacements: Heffernan, E Byrne, Bealham, Roux, Connors, Murray, Burns, Earls.
I might be busy that evening. 😟😟😟😟
I'm waiting for the England announcement, Eddie rumoured to be trying out the 9 forwards approach.
I’m waiting for the England announcement, Eddie rumoured to be trying out the 9 forwards approach.
What, like the Italian experiment of playing Bergamasco at 9?
What, like the Italian experiment of playing Bergamasco at 9?
Sounds awesome!!
Oh god!!! Didn't he say one of the Curry twins could be a 9? (They can't, as a Sale fan I've seen them both play countless times!)
An Ireland team without CJ or Murray.
And Stockdale still at 15, Wales might just try a few kicks...
Kelleher is interesting pick, if he sorts his throwing he could be hooker for next ten years. Was better form last year though.
Stockdale at 15 is the obvious target, dont think Wales are currently good enough to exploit it
That Ireland team has 11 Leinster starters, and that's without injured
J Larmour
G Ringrose
T Furlong
D Leavy
J Conan
And the kids coming through like Penny, Frawley, and Byrne are doing alright too. Away wins at ospreys and Glasgow
What, like the Italian experiment of playing Bergamasco at 9?
Current Rumours are Ben Earl coming in off the bench at Centre and Ollie Thorley deputising at Flanker if for some strange reason the Kamikaze Kids are needed on the wing in attack.
I'm sure its just a distraction with Jones's Running Back philosophy being de-restrcted from No 8. I think this strategy is of a pop up from 8 in an attacking scrum/maul with Thorley / Nowell standing at 9 to crash it up.
But who knows.
WALES TEAM TO PLAY IRELAND
1. Rhys Carre (Cardiff Blues (10 Caps)
2. Ryan Elias (Scarlets) (15 Caps)
3. Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (49 Caps)
4. Will Rowlands (Wasps) (2 Caps)
5. Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys) (140 Caps) (CAPT)
6. Shane Lewis-Hughes (Cardiff Blues) (1 Cap)
7. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys) (77 Caps)
8. Taulupe Faletau (Bath) (78 Caps)
9. Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (55 Caps)
10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints) (85 Caps)
11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Blues) (26 Caps)
12. Owen Watkin (Ospreys) (23 Caps)
13. Jonathan Davies (Scarlets) (83 Caps)
14. Liam Williams (Scarlets) (64 Caps)
15. Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets) (91 Caps)
REPLACEMENTS:
16. Elliot Dee (Dragons) (29 Caps)
17. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (26 Caps)
18. Samson Lee (Scarlets) (42 Caps)
19. Jake Ball (Scarlets) (46 Caps)
20. Aaron Wainwright (Dragons) (23 Caps)
21. Lloyd Williams (Cardiff Blues) (28 Caps)
22. Callum Sheedy (Bristol) (*Uncapped)
23. George North (Ospreys) (96 Caps)
5,7,8,9,10,11,13,14
Probable Lions next summer
And that's without Cory Hill
Loum - probable with Gatland coaching but on merit? Hardly any of them 🙂
AWJ is too old and too slow - he shouldn't even have gone last time. The only probable on merit would be loopy liam and maybe Biggar
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/liam-williams-only-wales-player-19233142
Edit - mind you that article has Youngs at 9 so obviously talking out of his hat 🙂
he shouldn’t even have gone last time
If you picked your targets a bit better more people might listen
Shall we call Friday night the start of the 2020-2021 LIONS season thread
AA - he was carrying an injury and out of form. I'm not denying he is a good player but taking players carrying injuries was a high risk strategy
Just accept it
Johnny Gray wasn't good enough
Ickle Jonny had lost form by lions time so did not merit selection. anyway he is dead to me now. My mancrush now is Darcy Graham!
How effective was AWJ against Scotland? penalty magnet and not the influential player he once was
AA – he was carrying an injury and out of form. I
Yet still picked up 3 test caps to add to the other 6 in a historic drawn series in NZ,...you can bitch and whine easily about some players not deserving lions test caps but not AWJ, you really are barking up the wrong tree with that one.
Shall we call Friday night the start of the 2020-2021 LIONS season thread
Sounds like a plan
How effective was AWJ against Scotland? penalty magnet and not the influential player he once was
He was shit, like the rest of the team, but it has nothing to do with you moaning about his Lions caps.
Sutherland
McInally
Fagerson
Cummings
Gray
Ritchie
Watson
Blade
Price
Weir
VdM
Johnson
Harris
Graham
Hogg
Scotland squad
A few ( should be) lions in there 🙂
There seems to be talk of the Ireland v Wales game as being a ‘must-win’ game for Wales, but that seems unreasonable to me. I can rarely remember going to Ireland confident of winning, occasionally slight favourites perhaps. Nor, can I see Wales realistically beating England and they cannot be expected to. So that leaves the game against Georgia, which surely despite their problems they will win. Perhaps playing with cohesion and some signs of a new style will be enough? Should they lose to Georgia all hell will break loose.
Ickle Jonny had lost form by lions time so did not merit selection. anyway he is dead to me now. My mancrush now is Darcy Graham!
Darcy Graham is a good player, but I think there are several ahead of him at the moment - I cannot see him getting selected for the Lions.
If he continues his form in the Autumn and 6 N he could force his way on the plane but with all the good wings aroundright now only an outside chance. too small for Gatland
Mark my words tho - I bet he and Duhan are the top scoring wings between now and the end of the 6N
There seems to be talk of the Ireland v Wales game as being a ‘must-win’ game for Wales, but that seems unreasonable to me
I agree but they must look like the have played together at least!!
France v Fiji off.
Murphy leaves Leicester.
Quiet day so far!
Ireland by about 20 later, by the way.
Ireland by about 20 later, by the way.
If it’s only by 20 I’d consider that a win for Wales. They have been utter mince since Pivac has taken charge. I cant understand how the same group of players have gone from Grand Slam Champions and top 4 finish in the World Cup to something that resembles the 2007 World Cup Squad.
I cant understand how the same group of players have gone from Grand Slam Champions and top 4 finish in the World Cup to something that resembles the 2007 World Cup Squad.
I know, its almost like Gatland is a quality coach.
20 to Ireland points is possible, but it would be a poor result for Wales imho. When they last met in Ireland, Ireland were deserved winners; but there wasn’t that much in it iirc. 20pts would be grim.
Be lucky to lose by 20 on current play!
Be lucky to lose by 20 on current play!
I know, I think I spoke too early.
This is horrific!!
Carre, Elias, Rowlands off at half time please. Id include Jiffy Junior too butvthat would mean North at 13, mind you he couldnt be much worse.
1down
Can't understand carre being ahead of Wyn Jones.
Sure I've seen something like that before.
Can’t understand carre being ahead of Wyn Jones.
Makes no sense at all.
This is horrific!!
Utterly miserable. I thought it looked slightly promising after about 3 minutes.
I’m not sure why there’s so much talk about who plays 10 for Wales, I’ve not seen Biggar touch the ball!
Its awful, havent done anything. Ireland will be gutted not to be 20 points up, they've not had to break sweat so far. You would think Wales would struggle to lose the scrums the lineouts and the breakdown all at the same time.
Rugby is the only sport I watch/follow, I’m so glad I don’t follow a team that plays week in week out! I should just support France and be done with it : (
Ireland doing there best to let us back in!
Faletau is a marelous rugby player!
Thats all 3 off now!
Davies knee has gone, hope its not the same one. 😟
Through all of Wales’ poor games Josh Adams has played well. He always seems up for it. His defensive work today has been good and he always looks a threat with the ball.
Here comes George. This could all be part of the Pivac plan!
Adams is very good, nice to see Faletau playing better too. Although I fear that was the end of Jiffy Junior
****ing hell!
Well done Ireland.
Ireland by about 20 later, by the way.
Posted 6 hours ago
Hate to be right.
Ireland were pretty poor there...
Pleased we won but Ireland weren’t great and Wales were woeful
I thought that it would be closer than that and if Ireland did win by 20pts, they’d have had a little luck. But, no there was no luck there. Little positive for Wales from that.
Score flattered Wales.
Pleased we won but Ireland weren’t great
Ireland had Sexton go off and Billy Burns come on, that some step down in quality. Ireland werent great but the ref didnt help matters imo, prevented any flow at all. Was a shit game, Ireland were poor to average but still far too good for an appalling Wales team. England will put 50 on us.
That was pretty poor all round really. Wales were horrible, especially in the first half. Ireland would’ve been 20 points up by half time had they been on form. Wales seem completely devoid of confidence.
Lovely to see Faletau back tho. Adams still a great player. Lloyd Williams now the best 9 in Wales?
Hooker has been a massive weakness for Wales the last few games. I know the weather was horrendous for the Scotland game, but scrums and lineouts were a shit today again. Get well soon King Ken.
England could beat Wales by 40.
I agree, the ref was very poor for the flow of the game. Must be difficult when the general standard of play is so low tho.
Dire game of rugby. Ireland justified winners. Wales absolutely dreadful. Grand Slam to effectively bottom of the 6 Nations in one go. Horrible.
loum
Free Member5,7,8,9,10,11,13,14
Probable Lions next summer
And that’s without Cory Hill
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so the next lions tour is going to be chock full of welsh players?
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I think you may have fallen down the sarcasm TJ!
Yeah right
Congratulations to George North on his 100 caps. Youngest player to reach this milestone.
Madness in New Zealand!
Well, I’m interested to see how Jack Willis and Ollie Lawrence go today, particularly the latter who looks to be the type of centre England have lacked since Tindle slowed to walking pace.
Willis seems only to add to the Kamakaze kids fetching ability and with those three int he team England’s pack starts to seem so much more compete than the Robshaw days when no one could find a 7.
Watching the game in Italy on Prime and yay! You can turn off the fake crowd noise.
All a bit harum scarum but that Italy try was a thing of beauty.
Nice to see both Scotland wings getting into the game. Two crucial early injuries will cost us tho.
A wee bit squeaky bum time but in the end a decent win. Duhan man of the match!
A wee bit squeaky bum time but in the end a decent win. Duhan man of the match!
Scotland are on a roll, two consecutive away wins!
2 wins against tier 2 nations is hardly a roll.
2 wins against tier 2 nations is hardly a roll.
🙂
2 wins against tier 2 nations is hardly a roll.
Lets be honest, it is for Scotland.
Although Wales and Scotland are equal in one area, Wales have won 4 six nations grand slams, Scotland 4 wooden spoons
Apparently wales are tier 2 now! 6 games in a row for scotland
2 wins against tier 2 nations is hardly a roll.
😂😂 very good.
I tried to find out when Scotland did last win two consecutive games away, but I couldn’t find records going back far enough. Does anyone know?
presumably the last GS - 1990?
presumably the last GS – 1990?
Always liked John Jefferies, proper nutter!
Always liked John Jefferies, proper nutter!
I once met him at a Train station at the Scottish Borders. Although very scary to approach, he turned out to be a thoroughly nice bloke to talk with.
This last thing he afforded me me after asking what position I played was "don't be like Will, he's shit" 😀
I am sure we will have won two away games in succession on tours as well.
2017 Italy in Singapore then Aussie in Sydney
Watching the game in Italy on Prime and yay! You can turn off the fake crowd noise.
But it has to be watched live, no rewinding or recording and the quality (on my TV at least) isn't as good as normal TV. It's like watching rugby in the 70s again. (I had a brief glance at Prime last night but couldn't see an option to watch a replay of the game - I'd assume you can watch after the fact?)
You can watch wales lose to georgia on s4c