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Firstly, North aint slow
Errrmmmmmmm - he is so there. Like an oil tanker turning as well.
You will see some proper speed on the wings on Saturday - especially When Duhan comes on but all 3 of our wingers in the squad have real pace. Shame they will not see the ball with the centres picked
all 3 of our wingers in the squad have real pace
I thought one was Kinghorn? He's a good player but not scary fast.
Kinghorn is the slowest. One of those deceptive guys like Guscott tho - does not look to be moving fast even when he is. Graham and VDM are really pacy. IIRC VDM is a 10.3 100m man
IIRC VDM is a 10.3 100m man
Yeah right! Nigel Walker wasnt that fast and he was an olympic 110m hurdler before rugby!
Mentions North even though he is slow.
Tom Varndell did a 10.8 100m on grass....in his socks....allegedly!
Its something I would love to see is some stats on speed. I cannot find the quote on VDM now so maybe I imagined it but he is proper fast.
I would love to see is some stats on speed.
Haveca look at the link i posted
I did - its interesting but hardly comprehensive. I'd love to know how fast all the players are - for example I saw McInally take 3 m in 40 out of Owen Farrell but was that Farrells real top speed? I also saw Jonny Gray caught in 20 m with a 5 m start - and yes he probably was at top speed
Here are some stats for you ( Ok he was not playing internationals so played every game but.........)
According to Opta’s statistics, since his debut for Edinburgh, “Van der Merwe is the top-ranking player in the Pro14 for tries (24), metres (2673), clean breaks (73) and defenders beaten (199)”.
Jonny Gray caught in 20 m with a 5 m start
Was that by someone coming back from the bar, with a pint in each hand? 😂😂
since his debut for Edinburgh, “Van der Merwe is the top-ranking player in the Pro14 for tries (24), metres (2673), clean breaks (73) and defenders beaten (199)”.
Cant be that good in he cant get in the scotland team!
Its Toonie selecting!
Bledisloe cup match about to start. rainy day in Sydney. Should be fun once they get finished with the dancing
Load of New Zealanders in green watching the country dancing there.
😀
Tipuric out with tonsillitis 😩😫. I was far from hopeful before that - he will be a huge loss.
I was looking forward to Tips v Watson - lions sevens?
How the breakdown is reffed will be key - scotland will be going for turnovers.
**** me does James Davies start!!!😳😳😳😳😥 He's shit.
Anyway weather doesnt look too bad, good luck TJ, I shall be hiding behind the sofa!
Scrums - my bet is wales bugger about a lot. I hope the ref picks up on the early shove / soft hit, general buggering about. Otherwise scums could well go badly for Scotland
Crowd looks about the same as most pro12-14 games, good turn out!
That speed stats link has Kieran Marmion quicker than all the wingers, just the NFL lad quicker.
🙂
And the legend Stephen Ferris was right up there for speed too.
I was looking forward to Tips v Watson – lions sevens?
I doubt Tips will be a Lions test 7 v SA not physical enough, Watson maybe but my money would be on Bilbo's mate or Curry
Oh no, I can’t watch.
****ing Davies to carry into traffic in 22? ****ing shambles.
Is there any way to turn off the canned crowd noises on the BBC coverage?
Is there any way to turn off the canned crowd noises on the BBC coverage?
Press the mute button?
And keep the rest of the “soundtrack”
No.
Whoever is calling the Scots lineouts will be off the hooker xmas card list!
Knock on by scotland just before the pen.
A rather dull match so far. To my biased eyes Wales have been somewhat hard done by with a few harsh calls. Ali Price seems slow, he takes an age even after being told to “use it”.
Much how I thought it would pan out in that wales kick a lot for territory and wait for the mistakes. Scotland wasteful. Shame Finn is off - he looked sharp
I was wrong about the scrums - nice to see a proper contest. Nice to see the rtef being strict and the breakdown and penalised Jones for his usual tricks - when you are on the ground throw your legs on the wrong side!
Not the greatest half of rugby
I don’t understand how they allow players to obstruct players kick-and-chasing out of their 22. Kinghorn just wiggled in front of Liam Williams at one point. It happens in every game and prevents teams using an exciting attacking move.
To my biased eyes Wales have been somewhat hard done by with a few harsh calls.
Ah well - to this one eyed fan I would say the opposite - the pen for no arms was harsh and the last Welsh scrum was dropped by the welsh prop as soon as the ball went in. I'm sure i could see more 🙂 With both eyes open actually I think the reffings been pretty good
About time. I thought the game would end before Ali Price used the ball!
Scotland and Wales deserve their places in the 6N table.
I can only see Scotland winning from here.
Damn.
Tactical injury ?
Game over, well played scotland
Well deserved, but that was painful to watch.
Well played Scotland.
A damn fine performance from Scotland and Hoggy really stepped up as captain. Times gone by all those injuries would have hurt us but we have enough players now to cope. Duhan only got one touch but showed how difficult he is to put down
Welsh fans must be disappointed tho - not just that they lost but that they created so little. all the territory they got was off Scotland mistakes
A word for the ref - a good game I thought
With both eyes open actually I think the reffings been pretty good
Says everything about the ref. The irony penalty was when he pinged Rowlands for sealing at a ruck.
I really rate Jamie Richie. Fairly dire game for the neutral, poor conditions though.
The Lions are going to have to improve a bit, aren't they?
A damn fine performance from Scotland
**** my old boots you're easily pleased, had Wales sneaked it I'd have still thought they were shit!
Rowlands and Shane L-H look worth looking at again and Watkin at 12, beyond that we just have to hope the likes of Navidi, Tips and Moriarty are back soon and they players who have had no game time for ages improve. Faletau is looking like he's improving.
Props were weird, with Francis and W Jones we looked good but Carre played with Francis and just about held their own, when Lewis came on it went to shit. We need Carre and Lewis to carry but they cant scrummage.
AA - think back a few years when scotland were winning with ten minutes to go and had some injuries - they went to pieces and let wales win. this time with 10 mins to go we controlled the game. thats the good performance.
AA – think back a few years when scotland were winning with ten minutes to go and had some injuries – they went to pieces and let wales win
True, it was a fine gutsy win no doubt but neither team put in a "damn fine performance". You scrapped past a really badly misfiring Wales.
my old boots you’re easily pleased, had Wales sneaked it I’d have still thought they were shit!
I hate to agree with a-a, but yes, I agree. I still have no idea what type of game Pivac is aiming for.
Oh, and minute silences. When they happen at almost every game they lose their meaning.
Shane L-H look worth looking at again and Watkin at 12
I thought they looked good too.
How many points will England put on Italy? It could be a lot.
The Lions are going to have to improve a bit, aren’t they?
Presumably the Lions are going to be largely England and Ireland players.
Tackled in the air clearly!
I might have to watch boris rather than England!
Didn’t notice it in the earlier game as much but the fake crowd noise on this game is rubbish! I think it sounds like they got the football tape.
RM.
I find it hard to watch.
Didn’t notice it in the earlier game
Wasnt much to applaud!
Wasnt much to applaud!
True, could have nodded off... 🙂
Seems to got a bit better but the ‘cheers’ were all over the shop in the first 10 of this game.
RM.
Seems to got a bit better but the ‘cheers’ were all over the shop in the first 10 of this game.
Are there lots of Saracens on the pitch? 🤔
England look a shower of shit with a few exceptions. They now need 3 tries and a 21 point minimum winning points margin within 40 minutes.
Ireland should win the 6N trophy.
Lovely try by Italy, I thought they played some nice rugby.
I think France will beat Ireland. Hope the game is a good un.
England have their tries and points.
done enough.
Commentator has just ruled France out mathematically.
Would be very French of them to get the big bp win for the title now.
Having just seen Andy Farrell's pitchside interview I'm perturbed by his weird accent.
C'mon Ireland !!
Don't forget that if France win England will probably win the 6Nations... Just how motivated are they?
Have many songs do Ireland get today?
Hang on.....are they 'social distacing' for the anthems? haha!
Would be very French of them to get the big bp win for the title now.
It would be great to see them manage that. They’ve certainly been the most exciting team.
7-0
Stockdale aint a 15 is he!
Sexton looks annoyed.
I think I’m just going to support France from now on. If Wales could only play like them : (
Stockdale has had a mare!
Blimey, England are 6N's champions.....feels very hollow imo.
I hadn’t realised quite how bad the 6N had been for Wales. Also don’t think I have ever been so uninterested in the conclusion of a 6N. Just doesn’t seem that important to finish it off 7 months after it was suspended. I half watched the England game - lack of crowd makes it very flat
Stockdale has had a mare!
He just doesnt have the skill set for 15, not his fault
Well done France. Thanks for popping by Wales.
Agreed. His handling today would have been poor by the standards of a prop from 30 years ago mind!
Roll on this Autumn nations cup thing anyway....when does it start?
Jesus, Farrell has all the charisma of a flat pint ffs
Ah well, not to be. At least it finished with a good game. Well done England - I thought watching football in empty stadiums was weird, but a game in Paris without the French crowd falling in and out of love with the team 17 times during the game is weird. Really hope the next 6N isn’t played in empty stadiums, but I’m beginning to think it might be. 😕
when does it start?
2 weeks time
I think that it's ineveitable if it's scheduled for it's usual Feb-March slot.
I think that it’s ineveitable if it’s scheduled for it’s usual Feb-March slot.
Yup. Shite isn’t it.
So for mScotland - a decent but not great 6N. 3 wins is the minimum acceptable and we were not outclassed in any game. Good depth in a lot of positions but please the rest of you stop breaking our best players. Hogg has really grown into captaincy. showed calm heads to close out todays game - not something we are known for
I'll give them a B
Well done France. At times they were wonderful tonight
Stockdale aint a 15 is he!
True.
Weird thing is that Conway is a fine 15, very safe hands.
And Hugo Keenan on the other wing is also out of position - he's actually a full back.
England are champions and rightly so. Italy are the only team with a -ve points differential. Scotland only average having gone from a free scoring attacking team who couldn't win to a better defensive team who managed to close a game out against a poor Welsh team. The loss of attacking threat is a worry, let's hope it comes back along with Russell. France are on the rise glad we played them months ago not sure what to make of Ireland
England game – lack of crowd makes it very flat
I found this also, a remarkable difference. After a usual week of abstinence I was really looking forward to my in-match beers, but it wasn’t the same not being able to over enthusiastically shout at the telly.
In other news, look at the points the AB’s put on Aus, holy mother of....
Jesus, Farrell has all the charisma of a flat pint ffs
Which one Chris, Andy or Colin?
The one that's going to be Lions captain
Ruddy Welsh - broke both our 10s and a centre! I know you guys won a game in the past by breaking all our guys and then watching us panic but we no longer fall apart under pressure like that so why break all our guys?
Mutter mumble sulk