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The 6N going to Sky would be bobbins.

If BT get it, that’s less shit because I pay for BT Sports anyway to watch the prem and Europe. But it’s poor for those who don’t.

In other news, Ashton and Sale have agreed to part ways with immediate effect. Any news on what has gone on there?


 
Posted : 02/03/2020 9:48 am
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If BT get it, that’s less shit because I pay for BT Sports anyway to watch the prem and Europe. But it’s poor for those who don’t.

I have just been caught out by BT sport. I was switching to BT just for the saving on BT sport....2 days after they introduce charging.


 
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I have just been caught out by BT sport. I was switching to BT just for the saving on BT sport….2 days after they introduce charging.

I have to pay for mine but it’s only a fiver a month (I have phone and broadband with BT).


 
Posted : 02/03/2020 7:08 pm
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MM, that’s as a new phone and broadband customer.


 
Posted : 02/03/2020 7:28 pm
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Ashton had a fall out with Diamond apparently. In other news Eddie Jones calls up Exeter’s second choice number nine; that should shut up his detractors.


 
Posted : 03/03/2020 3:04 am
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Be careful if you're using a Mac, BT Sport doesn't work in the current OS.  Sigh.


 
Posted : 03/03/2020 12:14 pm
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so, apparently The Times is reporting that

the rights package is actually being split up into three tranches of five matches a year - with the most high-value portion of games including the most commercially attractive. They say broadcast providers can bid for as many slices of the rights as they want to, it's possible for one broadcaster to secure all three slices, but they report it's likely at least one section will go to either the BBC or ITV

so maybe a few of the 6 Nations games will be available on BBC or ITV...based on what criteria? A higher value slice featuring games they think will be more popular end up on Sky, and lower value i.e. anyone vs Italy on Free to View?


 
Posted : 03/03/2020 1:08 pm
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Sky get the England games and the BBC/ITV gets the rest 🙂


 
Posted : 03/03/2020 1:18 pm
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Sky get the England games and the BBC/ITV gets the rest

this, probably. Remember when the organising committee tried to insist that England/France was always the final game, cos that's the only game that mattered?!


 
Posted : 03/03/2020 1:22 pm
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I will be Kryton...surely to God that is a priority fix.


 
Posted : 03/03/2020 2:32 pm
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Jones has named his team for the Wales test...

Daly; Watson, Tuilagi, Farrell, May; Ford, Youngs; Marler, George, Sinckler, Itoje, Kruis, Lawes, Wilson, Curry

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Genge, Stuart, Launchbury, Ewels, Earl, Heinz, Slade

Seems to be sticking with Curry at eight with Wilson at seven despite the latter having more experience there, Lawes in at six again. Still loving lots of locks!

In other news Biggar and Williams are fit for Wales.


 
Posted : 05/03/2020 12:15 pm
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Wilson and Watson in for England and of course no Mako, I’m still surprised that Curry is at 8, surely Wilson is better there he’s a solid carrier. The Ford, Farrell, Tuilagi 10/12/13 continues.

Anyway...


 
Posted : 05/03/2020 1:20 pm
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Faletau dropped for Navidi, big call. Shingler on bench covering lock looks a bit mental, Davies out completely and Webb on bench is also odd. To summarise, our best hope is that Corona virus gets it called off!!


 
Posted : 05/03/2020 1:30 pm
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Faletau dropped for Navidi,

Crikey, I'd have had them both in and benched Moriaty as an impact sub/finisher/whatever


 
Posted : 05/03/2020 7:01 pm
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Navidi hasnt played for months, its a big gamble. Looks like Moriarty and Navidi are in to stop tye the big English forwards.


 
Posted : 05/03/2020 7:10 pm
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What time will Biggar be withdrawn?
I will not be able to watch live, I doubt I'll have the stomach to watch a recording either!


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 9:50 am
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Welsh HIA's, NSW language

https://mobile.twitter.com/arrietadavid1/status/1236204729400688640


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 9:59 am
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I thinking - hoping - England will win this maybe 26-17.  But I am nervous.  Back row all out of position, Watson hasn’t played for a while.

Yet, they’ll be kick chasing at Liam Williams to force errors or terrority but that’s always 50/50 even after some time out, and I’m pretty sure they’ll be running at Biggar so he injures himself off the pitch.   The Genge/Cowen Dickie impact seems to be working well and I think Sinkler/that’s going to feature today.    I’m nervous the Welsh centres and Wings will exploit Ford (defense) and turn Tuilagi    .

Will be a good game I hope and whilst wishing everyone good health I hope we don’t have a part empty stadium


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 12:26 pm
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Nice to see a record crowd at the Stoop for the women’s match. Two good friends of mine who played for the RAF women’s team were there and had a great time.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 2:28 pm
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Joe Marler sexually assaulting the Wales No5 live on tv 😏


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 5:01 pm
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And Farrell being even more of a **** than usual.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 5:07 pm
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Watsons on fire toda . Awesome performance.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 5:34 pm
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Wales could potentially take this.. England looked to be flagging a bit at the end of the first half.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 5:51 pm
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Decent start to the second half....!


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 5:56 pm
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Weird game - England were better certainly, but I thought uninspiring despite scoring loads of points


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 6:51 pm
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Wales have discovered how to score, 2 man advantage!


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 6:54 pm
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Erm, wow.  Don’t know where to start.  If Tuilagi had wrapped, his shoulders would have been under North’s chin, worse result.   What do you do?

England better, 15 vs 13 flatters Wales but Wales played really well.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 6:58 pm
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What do you do?

Tackle with some control?

Wales played really well.

I don’t think they did. Poor defence and a patchy attack. It may have been a different game if it had been played in Cardiff - Itoje should have been yellow for his ‘tackle’ on AWJ, and was it Wilson who shouldered him from behind off the ball? That wasn’t even reviewed. Both sides were niggly, but England were lucky to only have two cards.

As to the English prop’s liking for other men’s genitals, is there even a sanction for that?


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 7:05 pm
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There was plenty from both sides. Depends what colour your glasses are as to how you view the decisions. I thought reffed pretty well.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 7:15 pm
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Manu was definitely a red

There were a lot of shoulder injuries for Wales. One from a no arms tackle on Sinckler but I didn't see the how the others happened.

I'll be interested to see if there any action for knobgate


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 7:50 pm
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I’ll be interested to see if there any action for knobgate

For goodness' sake. He's a prop. He's supposed to do stuff like that. Rugby is losing its soul.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 8:13 pm
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Re Genge's yellow: wouldn't a better punishment for repeated offences near your own try line be a penalty try? Is this in the rules?

Loved Gareth Thomas' joke re knob gate!
"It wouldn't have happened in my day, if it had I'd be still playing" rofl


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 8:14 pm
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Strange game really England looked to be well on too but poor discipline let Wales back into it and nearly cost them the game. Hopefully the poor points difference won’t bite us in the arse should we still be in the hunt.

Pivac has got some work to do. That score line flattered Wales somewhat.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 8:53 pm
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I'm not a rugby expert but that looked dirty as hell. England seemed to have been coached to be as vicious as possible in contact. Eddie Jones is a pure ****, whingeing about the ref in the post match interview after winning, I can't imagine what the dressing room is like with him in charge.

English fans wonder why everyone hates them.. it's cos people like that get to work there.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 10:31 pm
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Watching it now, Wales still playing shit. How did lawes getvaway withbthe high shot onbAWJ. Dilly Dally classic that AWJ got his head on the wrong side!! He's the carrier ffs, clear high shoulder from Lawes, mitigation as AWJ going down so yellow at worst but these video refs steal a living!!


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 10:35 pm
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Tuilagi red a bit harsh, North put his head on the wrong side!!!! Seriously though a yellow would have done.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 10:56 pm
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It's was a yellow for the shoulder no wrap. Protocol says contact to the head, red. It's the problem with being coached to dislodge the ball with a big shoulder smash.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 11:07 pm
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When is a rip a rip, play on, and when is it a rip lost forward in the tackle?


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 11:08 pm
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Cant help but think a Gatwards coached Wales might have sneaked that game.


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 11:17 pm
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Another 5 mins would have done it!


 
Posted : 07/03/2020 11:20 pm
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For years, in try saving tackles anything goes.

I must admit I find the current rules odd. In forward carries they all duck their head & smash in head first. But as soon as the ball spins wide, any contact with the head is a red.

Halfpenny clashed with May in the air - his elbow accidentally hits Maybin the head - he is on the floor for 5 minutes, and subbed off after a failed HIA. It was totally not intentional, but it was contact to the head with force. Not even looked at (not that I think it should be, but under their rules......)

Rugby is making itself look a bit stupid at the moment.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 1:52 am
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For years, in try saving tackles anything goes.

Not really.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2wtYc-PPCCE

Rugby is making itself look a bit stupid at the moment.

No it isnt Tuilagi used no arms to intentionally charge with the shoulder, it was a harsh red as North was dropping but as the ref said he couldnt apply mitigation as it was never a legal tackle gone wrong.

The May incident was very like Fickou and North 2 weeks ago, accidental collision.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 6:46 am
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Posted : 08/03/2020 6:49 am
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My bet it will be less, a LOT less. That was a good game for the almost neutral


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 8:14 am
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Is it because market has come back from retirement, he's untouchable. He seems to be really going for the season's wind up merchant prize.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 8:22 am
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I’m not a rugby expert

Perhaps you should have stopped there.

Marler has always been a wind up merchant and not just with the opposition, he has a Jester like personality.  But these things go on all the time in rugby, it’s quite common for players to try to get a rise - no pun intended - from the opposition.  In my time I’ve seen that kind of stuff, props munching on garlic bulbs, general banter about ones wife of girlfriend.... I could go on.

I’m not sure Tuilagi’s tackle could have been anything else TBH.    North was so low and Tuilagi coming in so fast that - if you watch the replay - if he’d had his right arm raised to shoulder height to wrap that same arm would have contacted North right under the chin / neck.  It would have been worse.   The reason he’s off is because of the head contact, but I don’t believe it was deliberate.

And Wales for the win?  No not really unless another 10 mins was available for a tired 14 men because Genge would have been back on. England asleep at the kick off, and then run out of players at Tips second try marred was was a very good defensive game from them in the main.  They look a different team with Tuilagi and Watson on the field.  Wales gained 17 points (two converted tries and 3 points before half time) from our mistakes, they weren’t playing better than England, high isn’t to say they were playing badly at all.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 9:18 am
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I’m not sure Tuilagi’s tackle could have been anything else TBH.

He could have used his arms!!
As for Marler if AWJ cant turn round and knock him out that sort of shit needs to be dealt with, I had it happen to me, I ****ed the bloke, thats fine, if you are not allowed to do that players need protecting.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 10:02 am
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He could have used his arms!!

yes of course but note my opinion of the result based on him doing so.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 10:04 am
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yes of course but note my opinion of the result based on him doing so.

Being unable to tackle legally does not mean you can tackle illegally, not sure I follow your reasoning.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 10:27 am
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If Tuilagi had been leading with his arms / hands he would have been attempting a legal tackle thus its not foul play and mitigation would come into effect


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 10:37 am
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I’m just pointing out that the outcome for North could have been worse.   Likely Tuilagi might have received a yellow for a dangerous tackle, which we’d be debating instead and wouldn’t affect the result.   Yellow goes to red for the reasoning TJ provides.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 10:46 am
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Right. Off to murrayfeild, lots of happy French singing in the spring sunshine
I think we might get stuffed


 
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Marler being a wind up artist, a jester or a utter oaf doesn’t mitigate what he did. Do that in a pub or club and you could be charged with sexual assault.

Has he been cited?

Wales just made to many unforced errors, Privac needs to get the discipline that Gatland instilled into the team, early days so not panicking yet.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 2:14 pm
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Not so much discipline in avoiding pens but Wales tried to play too much rugby in the wrong areas. England showed poor discipline throughout. Itoje is a great player but is a pen magnet, Faz is a complete knobber too, good player but does some really stupid things.

Eddie Moans puts his views across!!

Good luck TJ, get the beer in early it could be a long day!!


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 2:18 pm
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Lucky!!


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 3:08 pm
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Where should I look for tj in the crowd? Any distinguishing features? Fancy dress?


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 3:12 pm
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I think he's on the bench.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 3:27 pm
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Moore hates the french doesnt he, shit game so far!


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 3:38 pm
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And straight away France wake up!!


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 3:39 pm
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Best chance for Scotland so far.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 3:41 pm
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That is utter bollocks, Scot 6 ran in from miles away and attacks French who defends himself, games will die on its arse if you can get a red for that!


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 3:49 pm
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French guy was holding his collar then punched him in the face. Not sure that's defending yourself.


 
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Has rugby always been this full of dirty play? I don't remember seeing as much in the past, but perhaps I'm just not remembering right. Perhaps it's just the increased number of cameras and ability to quickly replay.

I thought England were really bad yesterday and equally poorly behaved against Ireland. Now France get a red for a punch off the ball.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 3:56 pm
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Scot 6 should have got a yellow...he ran in from 10m away...if he hadn't, the scuffle would have stopped. (Not saying French bloke shouldn't get red)


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 4:01 pm
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There's too much wendyball style shite trying get a rise out of players. Why should the Scotland 6 run in from miles away and get involved, who cares if you push in the face rather than punch? Why should Marler get away with grabbing someones junk and they not be able to smack them, its just turning into soccer.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 4:06 pm
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Scot 6 should have got a yellow

Yep 100%


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 4:07 pm
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I agree, the Scottish 6 just about gave the French player whiplash. I don't mind the red so much if the scottish player gets something as well.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 4:07 pm
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I'm sure I heard Peter Wright call the referee a fud on Radio Scotland. I think France can still win this. It's the hope that gets you when you're following Scotland


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 4:09 pm
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Crikey, I left for 30 mins...


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 4:37 pm
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I wish I'd put that fiver on us now 🤦‍♂️😂


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 4:41 pm
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Yawn...Welsh and English slagging the Scots off for whining at the ref while ignoring the actual forests in their own eyes. Farrell does it every 5 mins usually backed up by itoje and AWJ uses the press conference to ask for incidents to be looked at.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 5:01 pm
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If players got a yellow for running in and getting involved most matches would end up with an empty pitch and Farrell would never play a full match


 
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Farrell would never play a full match

Works for me 😂😂


 
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There’s too much wendyball style shite trying get a rise out of players. ....... its just turning into soccer

Football has its own issues to deal with but people regularly running in and getting involved has always been part of rugby and claiming that that makes it like football is pathetic. I can't remember the last time a home international football team game turned into a 15 man brawl. It happens practically every 6N game.

I get that rugby is a hostile, contact sport, and tempers boil over and I get that rugby is way better in many respects than soccer but on this aspect it's a rugby problem and pointing and name calling as if you're superior to the beautiful game is very rose tinted.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 5:25 pm
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Welsh and English slagging the Scots off for whining at the ref

Where?


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 5:26 pm
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I can’t remember the last time a home international football team game turned into a 15 man brawl. It happens practically every 6N game.

No itvdoesnt, cant recall the last brawl in an international its just a load of wendyballesque flapping and pushing usually with one player lying on the floor holding his head so the video ref knows where to look.

Good win for Scotland, this will really test Pivac next week.


 
Posted : 08/03/2020 5:30 pm
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I think Scotland definitely looked the better of the two teams today, ignoring the red card etc. Thing is not sure how the table is going to end up with postponed matches so think the whole tournament may end up feeling a bit disappointing with no real conclusion.


 
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The France try was lovely. Well done Scotland, a well deserved win. It appears difficult to tell quite where Scotland are from their games so far. The commentators clearly see Scotland as favourites to beat Wales next weekend, but I really can’t tell what to think. I’d be happy for Wales to be underdogs though.


 
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Has rugby always been this full of dirty play?

Yes. A certain Martin Johnson has plenty of disciplinary issues for slapping people who cheesed him off.

Good win for Scotland today. France didn’t look like the team that started the championship so well.

There’s been a lot of niggle with year. Marler is a tit; he seemed to have calmed down a bit after coming out of retirement but it appears he’s back to being a prick.


 
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its just a load of wendyballesque flapping and pushing

There you go again. That doesn't happen in football anywhere like the frequency of rugby where it's several times a game. Just because it doesn't actually involve punches every time doesn't mean it doesn't happen.


 
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