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Not so bad for Scotland, another bonus point to keep them ahead of Italy.
Scottish showing their class booing the kicker
Hey, we've got Jiffy in the house. Don't forget to stay weirdly silent when they do the same thing in the Millenium Stadium.
Ah that's heckling that's fine I imagine. Not sure anyone really enjoyed that. The weather was the definite winner out of the three sides.
Potential trivia question - when was the last time anyone scored a try against Scotland without the Scottish players going in for some afters?
It’s boring, and more than a little pathetic.
Also, if you kick a penalty three minutes from time, with the aim of scoring a try to win the game in the remaining minutes, you need to keep hold of the ball, not waste it by kicking it poorly.
idlejohn - I think you will find its reaction to something else that happened.
It’sI'm boring, and more than a little pathetic.
FTFY
Jesus. A real watching paint dry experience.
Either side will get hammered by NZ or SA when the time comes.
OOh, the weather! It's rugby, deal with it.
England really looking like world beaters again though.
Really? I mean it was a good try and they utterly steamrollered us but I'd hardly say they are world beaters on a 7 point win.
OOh, the weather! It’s rugby, deal with it.
Are you for real? 46mph gusts over there with 29 constant. Aye deal with it...
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BruceWeeIt’sI’m boring, and more than a little pathetic.
FTFY
That’s about the same level of maturity that your players show. 😘
I’m boring, and more than a little pathetic.
Irish ref and TMO for tomorrow’s game. Plenty of time for him yet.
Bruce...he is trying to get a rise out of you. The master race won and now the likes of Genge,Farrell, itoje and marler aren't irritating, they are plucky, stout yeomen.
That’s about the same level of maturity that your players show. 😘
Well, that's clearly not a boring or pathetic comment. That's me told.
I read the "world beaters" comment as sarcasm
A really poor game from two sides devoid of any guile or craft.
One area of skill englands defensive lineout. the only good thing in the game
I really don't see a way out for Scotland TBH. Toonie going is not going to help matters. Dodson going might but that ain't happening so we're ****ed, basically.
I read the “world beaters” comment as sarcasm
No, I really really mean it. Not only on the pitch, but as Genge showed with his deep insightful interview and Eddie with his limitless class in his, they’re world beaters off it too.
I agree Bruce. Townsend is no international coach and he is squandering the best squad we have ever had
I agree Bruce. Townsend is no international coach and he is squandering the best squad we have ever had
Read my post again. Townsend going won't make any difference.
Actually, that's not true. We'll get the same bump we do every time we get a new coach before we settle back to this turgid shite.
Also, if you kick a penalty three minutes from time, with the aim of scoring a try to win the game in the remaining minutes, you need to keep hold of the ball, not waste it by kicking it poorly.
I thought that as well. The commentary said they should have gone for the corner, but I thought they made the right decision, as getting a try could easily have taken them beyond the 80 min. They kicked the penalty, giving themselves a glimmer of hope, then have England the ball. Confusing.
Wasn't a good game to watch and I imagine it wasn't a great game to play. Would rather lose a good one game than a messy game like that. Think Ireland or Wales have looked most impressive so far and can't see past them for the win.
Hogg dropped the ball over the tryline for the game again.
Where's his little celebration this week?
Disagree Bruce - a decent coach would get better out of the p-layers. Townsend is not that man. We have the talent but not the tactics
Disagree Bruce – a decent coach would get better out of the p-layers. Townsend is not that man. We have the talent but not the tactics
I can't see us persuading Gatland to take the job so who do you have in mind?
Pretty much every Scottish coach has people calling for his head after three years. The main reason we have people saying we should bring back Cotter (who thankfully is unavailable so we don't have to go up that blind alley again) is because he left before he got to three years.
Seriously, who's next for the cycle?
idlejohn – I think you will find its reaction to something else that happened.
Go on.....
A really poor game from two sides devoid of any guile or craft.
I thought they played pretty well, given the conditions.
I would be looking for a young ambitious coach from the super 15. LIke the Japanese did.
We should not have got rid of cotter when we did. townsend is clearly not ready and the team performances have gone backwards at a rate of knots under him
But it looks like we are stuck with him now for the year at least. I almost want the wooden spoon so he has to go and then we will not waste any more time with him
Anyway Hogg is shit Lamour my new 15 man crush. Ireland dispensed with Kearney at least 2 years too late.
North needs some time away from the welsh team. 1/2p Adams and Mcnicol for next game.
The Scotland England game was pretty bloody dire, not helped by some diabolical weather. Fair play to the fans for sitting through that game and that weather. Jesus.
England did what they needed to do, but the lack of ambition was frustrating. After Farrell missed 500 kicks at goal, why not go for the line out and try and drive over?
What the frigging hell were Scotland thinking in the first half when they had the wind? Their tactics were bloody wrong.
One of the comments at 1/2 time was sometimes it was easier into the wind, as the ball held up to chase on to. Both teams struggled to kick with the helping wind.
The refs interpretation of “straight” at line out was interesting. In the first half, every time an English throw bent their way on the wind, he pinged them. In the second half, every throw Scotland managed to catch was exactly the same but he let them all go.
The first kick off of the game the Scotland chasers were yards offside - hence they managed to get to May even though the ball flew all the way deep into the 22.
I think Gauzerre fancied being out there even less than the hookers & kickers!
What the frigging hell were Scotland thinking in the first half when they had the wind? Their tactics were bloody wrong.
Townsend
Poite made some interesting calls too. Biggar getting a turn over sat on his arse, then clearly knocking on but play on. The idea that the jackler should support his own weight has clearly gone out the window. POM would have had a field day a few years back when he was good. Cant begrudge Standers MOM but by **** Tips was immense for us.
I just ****ing love Furlong. He’s standing there - hands out. They know he’s coming with the ball and he just drags them all over the line. L’amour is looking good for the 15 Ireland have needed for quite some time.
England deserved the win, as TJ said their defensive lineout was good and some of their other forward play was effective at times. Scotland had nothing to offer in attack, gave away possession stupidly with kicks at the wrong time and too often were kicked beyond any hope of an effective kick chase.
Hastings was better than many of the Scots today but in my opinion we should get Russell back in for the next game. I think if anyone should go it's Dodson but Gregors coat has to be on a shoogly peg too, the lack of an obvious affordable alternative is the biggest factor in his favour
Russell interview coming in tomorrow’s times, he isn’t coming back.
You just know what's going to happen. The SRU's authority has been challenged and all challenges to the SRU must be met with the same response. Pissing Contest!
Dodson is now going to back Townsend to the hilt, regardless of results or any other 'incidents' with players.
We might as well settle in because it's going to be a few years before we see any changes to the Scotland set up.
Aha! Much as expected. Its an utter disaster and Townsend must go
Dodson has to go. The entire culture at Murrayfield has to change but I don't see that ever happening.
It's shite being Scottish.
Its even more shite to be an adopted scot from the west country. I could have been an England and Bath fan and won a few things.
Russell sounds like a eight ****!
Dodson has to go. The entire culture at Murrayfield has to change but I don’t see that ever happening.
It’s shite being Scottish.
How much would it cost to get shot of him though if he’s in a million quid a year? He seems like a disaster for the Union too.
Dodson has done some very good things on the business side of the SRU. Don't forget that.
AA - thing is we all know Finn is right! Results show that the team has gone backwards under Townsend and that the team do not buy into the tactics
What? Right to throw his toys out the pram because he cant have a third pint, sounds like a child.
Right that Townsend is an idiot that has to micromanage his players, forces them into a rigid game plan that does not suit them and has no man management skills.
I think the vast majority of fans would back Finn not Toonie.
I dont disagree that Townsend is a rubbish coach, I just think Russell sounds like a spoilt child too.
Sounds to me like he's been dealing with Toonie for 7 years and has finally had enough. It's definitely more than just wanting a 3rd pint.
He's seen that the grass is, in fact, greener on the other side and he's decided enough is enough.
I don't understand the rip rule either. Ford (offside) rips the ball it gets pinged as knock on. Scrum, which Scotland just don't want. Ref dismissed Hogg every time he asked about a rule interpretation. I'd back the 1 captains challenge each half.
Who would adjudicate on the challenge?
TMO - it works in american football and cricket? Having said that I really do not see the point as many contested decisions are subjective not objective
Thanks Duckman and Brucewee. Having read that interview I can only conclude that whilst Townsend is in place there will be no place for Russell. There is no trust between the two. We're doomed I tell ye DOOMED!
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I can’t see us persuading Gatland to take the job so who do you have in mind?
Well, Gatland wouldn’t work in a Scottish setting, he wouldn’t pick any Scottish players for a start.
😉
BBC has it that the two pint rule was from senior players, not Townsend.
Sounds like Russell thought he was above team rules cos he plays in France now. Then missed training.
Not surprised he was dropped for first match.
Loum - Russell is one of the leadership group and he wasn't told about the two pint rule nor any part in making it. that was the first time the rule had been invoked
Thats just the trigger / the SRUs excuse. It all goes much deeper and further back
What I find really disturbing is the SRU's drip drip feeding the line that Finn has a drinking problem.
Disturbing but not at all surprising.
Fair play to Finn for keeping quiet until after the Calcutta Cup match so as not to disturb preparations. It shows some real character to keep quiet while an organisation is trying to character assassinate you.
For any Scotland supporters who fancy a depressing read about where we are.
https://www.theoffsideline.com/analysis-finn-russell-scottish-rugby/
Well, Gatland wouldn’t work in a Scottish setting, he wouldn’t pick any Scottish players for a start.
Its Russells best hope on getting on the Lions tour, turn his back on Scotland now!!
I see Jones is unhappy about booing and an empty plastic bottle being thrown!!
All sounds very petty / poor...
Two pint rule seems a bit overbearing especially if it’s not actually been filtered to all, including a supposed member of the leadership group.
It feels like it’s being spun to make Russell out as a problem child.
and an empty plastic bottle being thrown!!
https://twitter.com/TEnglishSport/status/1226474646381498368
Thrown or blown? But why bother finding out the truth before making it into a big story?
But you crack on, Eddie. We love you really.
I used to be against the booing at Murrayfield but it upset Jonathan Davies so much I actually started to appreciate it.
Now that I know it upsets Eddie as well it just makes me happier.
France Italy game may be the best of the weekend.
C'mon Italy 😀
That was a much more entertaining game.
Plenty of tries, some great runs and not totally one sided. Probably the best game Italy have had for a while.
France Italy game may be the best of the weekend.
First half was great second half awful.
All of the sides seem to me mentally tired. Generally a bit sloppy play and going on/off the boil in a game more than normal.
Nice gesture from Farrell and co the other week presenting Nigel Owens with a jersey to celebrate his 98th test as a ref.
He comes across as a bit of grumpy, petulant sod so it’s a shame that stuff like this isn’t picked up on more.
It oddly came up on my Facebook feed.
Saw another story with marler not being a dick too.
Went to find the French prop who made his debut against him to give him his shirt. Told him to keep his own too with it being first cap.
Farrell is an odd one in that in many ways a model pro off the field. However his behaviour on the field is often really objectionable and every match needs a pantomime villain - he is it!
That video up there is shit and proves nothing. Yes it shows the bottle being blown off the roof of the coach but it also shows it getting up there with some force. How do we reckon that happens if its not been lobbed by someone? I can't imagine that they generally carry a few bottle on the roof. It certainly looks like it comes from the direction of the crowd.
It's ok though, cos it's just the arrogant English.....
SRU are looking at the video closely to identify the culprit. After Saturday, they need a new lineout coach.
Plastic bottles. They blow around and there is some swirling around in that area
That video up there is shit and proves nothing.
Go on then, post your video that proves someone threw it.
It’s ok though, cos it’s just the arrogant English…..
My god, some of you are addicted to playing the victim, aren't you.
Go on then, post your video that proves someone threw it
Ha, ha, yeah right. 🙄
My god, some of you are addicted to playing the victim, aren’t you.
Can you imagine the outcry if this had happened to to the Scottish team outside Twickenham. RFU might generally be dicks, but I reckon they would come out and condemn if it did though. As would most England fans. Don't see much of that here.
Fair enough it might only be a plastic bottle this time but the fans at Murryfield do seem to getting more and more angsty towards England, and that's not rugby IMO.
You seem convinced that the bottle was thrown. Why?
Here's an account from someone who was there that I got from another forum
Actually saw this happening. The top tier had a bin that was overflowing with the plastic bottles. The wind took 4/5 of them off the top of the bin and two escaped the clutches of the stewards and members of the public. One got taken by the wind and ended up ending out of harms way. One bounced on the top of the bus and then onto the ground. It was not thrown by anyone. There was a storm there....remember Eddie....storm equals high winds and plastic bottles and high winds do not go together but again EJ makes a normal event into an attack. Sheesh.
You seem convinced that the bottle was thrown. Why?
Nope, just don't see in the video that it wasn't thrown.
If it was blown by the wind fair enough, it's nothing. Guess we'll see in 2 years how the Scotland fans are towards the England team won't we.
It’s ok though, cos it’s just the arrogant English…..
I thought Eddiecwas an Aussie, so he's English? I hate him even more!!!
Owen Williams to miss rest of six nations and Biggar may be out with HIA, who are the next 2 tens? Sam Davies and?????
I don’t think the bottle was thrown; there were 30 chaps on the pitch who couldn’t pass, kick or throw the ball accurately because of the weather. I doubt some pissed up fan was able to lob something as light as a bottle with any accuracy!
The bigger issue for me is the young lad giving the ‘stroking one’s gentleman’s sausage’ action at the English players in the video. Is all a bit ‘football’ for me. I’m fully aware of the reasons for bad feeling etc but with the build up of hate etc in the press it seemed like the opportunity for acting like a tool.
Back to the Pro 14. Edinburgh playing Scarlets in rotten conditions. I wonder what all our saffers and Fijians think of it?
Thats some defence from Edinburgh!!