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Pretty mild down here in Kent last night but still lost a roof tile.
Could this be potentially fixed from the inside, a tile slid up and under? Cost of repair is a definite issue here unfortunately.
No, that's a person, outside on a ladder job.
Borrow a crawler ladder, and a normal ladder.
Set them up, then up you go with a mastic gun and some CT1 or whatever.
2 vertical lines of gunge, slide the tile in, take ladders down, lie down in dark room until your pulse returns to normal.
Or the mad roofer I saw in Nottingham would just walk around the roof whilst whistling 😳
edit: take the remains of the tile to a roofing supply yard, I use Rinus and they have pallets of different used tiles for repairs jobs like this. Or maybe one of the neighbours has a few spare?
I can't remember if I read it or someone told me this but they got an old guy that came round we very year and fixed all the minor issues for a very reasonable sum.... And wiggled a few loose for next year.
And wiggled a few loose for next year.
🤣
Thanks for the info guys.
Don't know anyone with the appropriate ladders im afraid.
I suspect every roofer will be busy for a while at the moment too plus got to let funds recover from Christmas anyway. Got to hope we dont lose any more tiles.
@trail_rat Yeah, noticed the render, I'll add that to the list!
@oldnick Thanks for the tips mate. 👍
You can do it yourself if it's just a slipped tile, but it's fallen down for a reason, perhaps the batten is broken, which would then require further tiles to be removed, the batten repaired and the tiles put back, not to mention you also require a replacement tile to fit this if the original is broken, it may required you to go up, get the information on the type of tile, damage and dimensions, or just call someone out and pay £200-300.
As mentioned above the render on the chimney needs sorting as does a tile that is broken just below the chimney
Difficult to sort if you can’t afford to get someone out
...with a mastic gun and some CT1 or whatever
I think that your suggestion of a decent tile is probably cheaper 🙂
You could do it from inside, but if you have collared ceilings or sarking felt you won't get access without breaking something else
It's really a job from the outside as suggested ^^ and you shouldn't need any materials other than a tile. The tile should have locating nibs which need to hook over the roof battens. You might need to slide the two tiles above higher up to get the new tile in, but don't push them up too far so that you can't get them back in position
+1 That chimney looks like it'll need some work too, but maybe in the better weather 🙂
FunkyDunc
Difficult to sort if you can’t afford to get someone out
I'll have to get a bit of money together but it'll be a few weeks unfortunately. Thanks for pointing out the broken tile. 👍
If you're not used to ladders and have to go up high carrying your roof ladder then wheel it up the tiles possibly breaking a few more then once you've done and you dangle your leg to find the ladder that isn't tied down. The reverse procedure of getting the roof ladder down while the poor Mrs/partner standing at the bottom of the ladder freezing her fingers
It's an easy enough job but quite a few obstacles in the way.
@redmex Yep, that sounds very much like what would happen if I attempted this repair! Lol
I have a crawler roof ladder. 4 metres long , but there is no way I could use it , the transfer from e vertical ladder to the roof one is beyond me but you welcome to borrow it
Have they actually tiled the base of the chimney render in and not used lead?
It's an easy fix but access is the issue
Are you one or two storey? If the latter then I would be very much less keen to go up. But yes, roof ladder and normal ladder required. You can buy ladder hooks to convert a normal ladder to roof, they are very cheap, 25 quid or som
The broken tile is potentially fixable if it's a clean break, use epoxy. If it's properly shattered then a new one is required. You should just slot it in and over the batten. Tempting as it is too fire gunk in and bodge it, down the line lies only regret!
The chimney render looks like it has failed where it comes down over the haunch, so potentially not an immediate problem but a closer look is required. You may have a lead detail under the tiles, I have a similar detail with lead soakers and aprons around my chimneys, but I'm in Highland so ymmv in the balmy south. Do you know anyone with a drone who could get a look?
And yes redmex speaks with the lesson of experience 🤣
Are you ok with heights? I usually am and will happily go around on scaffolding but long ladders up to the roof with nothing surrounding you is something else entirely... hard to do jobs properly while clinging on for dear life!
Some info here:
https://www.roofingmegastore.co.uk/blog/how-to-replace-roof-tiles.html
So, possible, but yeah, what redmex said 🤣
I’ll second that transfer from the vertical ladder to the roof ladder (and back) is a bit bloody scary. Always feels higher than it looks from the ground once you are up there! I had a tile that had slipped, didn’t fancy that again so came up with another method. From the top of a regular vertical ladder at gutter/eaves level, i managed to use two long tent poles, with improvised prongs, to push/slide the tile back in from below. I did have use some little cuts of timber, wedged on the inside of the roof to ease the adjacent tiles up a smidge to allow it to go all the way back in.
I did have use some little cuts of timber, wedged on the inside of the roof to ease the adjacent tiles up a smidge to allow it to go all the way back in
Username absolutely checks out
It's sounding more like getting some quotes, honestly, that roof and the tiles looks like it may hide a few secrets as well, so others stating more damage could be caused by an eager amateur is good advice.
Get a decent company in and they can do it quickly and probably give you a rundown on the other issues and costs, if you have access for a cherry picker from that side of the house, they may be able to fix it without causing any other issues, it's almost a given that anyone coming will go on about re-roofing and mentioning the chimney and ridge tiles as always to eek out more work ☹️
I have a roof just like that, had a slipped tile just like that and yes I replaced the tile from inside, around 10 years ago now.
I was fortunate it was in the middle.
When I noticed the slipped tile a friend suggested cutting the felt and pushing a tile through from the inside. I was surprised how easy it was, especially not having to cut anything as the only felt is pushed in between the beams.
mentioning the chimney and ridge tiles as always to eek out more work ☹️
It would be irresponsible not to mention those.
singletrackmind
Full Member
I have a crawler roof ladder. 4 metres long , but there is no way I could use it , the transfer from e vertical ladder to the roof one is beyond me but you welcome to borrow it
Have they actually tiled the base of the chimney render in and not used lead?
I appreciate the offer mate but this is definitely beyond me. I'm more aware of my mortality these days! Lol
As for the base of the chimney, a lot of the terraced houses in my road are identical to ours funnily enough, with no lead.
@kormoran
2 story house unfortunately. I'll definitely get the chimney render checked out too, thanks. 👍
jamesoz
Full Member
I have a roof just like that, had a slipped tile just like that and yes I replaced the tile from inside, around 10 years ago now.
I did wonder if it's possible to do from the inside. I'll get my lad over to go up in the attic and have a looksie. I'm getting really bad and sudden cramps/muscle spasms at the moment due to meds and I don't want it to happen up in the attic. Or on the roof!🙃
I’ll get my lad over to go up in the attic and have a looksie.
Video rolling for the traditional foot through ceiling moment please.
needs 2 cameras one inside and one outside, to see him and dislodging many more tiles from inside
I had this a while back. I have a tall ladder (for doing the Gutters etc) so hired a roof ladder to let me get at the tile. It was only then I realised I had no way to get the roof ladder onto the roof. There was no way I was carrying it up the ladder without killing myself. 18 months later I still need to fix it.
Are you ok with heights? I usually am and will happily go around on scaffolding but long ladders up to the roof with nothing surrounding you is something else entirely… hard to do jobs properly while clinging on for dear life!
I've cleared gutters at 3 stories without much issue (other than the wee bellend at the bottom ****ing about and wandering off on his phone). But put me on a step ladder four rings up and I barely function.
You don't need a roof ladder.
Throw a rope over the house from the other side. Climb up ladder to the gutters, grab rope and use it to climb up the roof to fix the tile. Then abseil back down when done.
I say this from experience (erm, kind of)... we have scaffolding up and while it's there I wanted to strip, treat and repaint all the old wood bits on the side of the house. Roofers are on holiday and I can't find a ladder long enough, so I've been going in and out of the attic dormer window, using a rope to climb up and down the bit of roof between the window and top of scaffold with all my tools 😎
Throw a rope over the house from the other side. Climb up ladder to the gutters, grab rope and use it to climb up the roof to fix the tile. Then abseil back down when done
think you missed tying it off!
Where’s our resident ladder expert?
expert?
X is the unknown quantity, spurt is a drip under pressure
As a climber, I've used the chuck a rope over technique once to get to the chimney stack. Utterly terrifying, never again.
Where’s our resident ladder expert?
I'm a trained ladder trainer, I have a card and everything.
As a climber, I’ve used the chuck a rope over technique once to get to the chimney stack. Utterly terrifying, never again.
A climbing instructor I used to climb with did this on a big house in Edinburgh. The rope was nearly rubbed through in the edge of the gutter in no time.