[Closed] Ronnie Biggs is dead

T'ra, see you later, don't let door hit you on the way out.

Shrugs.

I always thought he was a bit pathetic

I'm sure the victims would love the use of the word 'interesting'. 😐

A criminal who managed to evade justice for years, and only return to take advantage of the NHS?

Shame.

Good ****ing riddance. Utter scum.

How would you describe his life then CG?

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Not a loss really.

Blah. I'm sure some people will hold him up as some sort of folk hero as usual but whilst I don't wish death on anyone, he's far down the list of people I've never met to give a shit about.

How would you describe his life then CG?

I don't know to be honest but the word 'interesting' fails to recognise his evil character.

How appropriate! Great Train Robbery is on BBC1 tonight.
What a fitting tribute!

Clearly he thought he was Robin Hood - some kind of champion of the people.

Glad he's no longer sponging off a society he's never done anything for. Why we ever let him back in is beyond me.

[I]I'm sure some people will hold him up as some sort of folk hero as usual[/I]

Well, duh, he was a criminal in the sixties, when crime was cool. Apparently.

good. scum, sub human scum

Scum

I've never understood the glorification of criminals by the general populous.

Blah. I'm sure some people will hold him up as some sort of folk hero as usual but whilst I don't wish death on anyone, he's far down the list of people I've never met to give a shit about.

Hear, hear.

dammit! Someone else that wasnt on my coffin club list.

I came on here this morning just to see what the STW opinion on his demise would be.

I am relieved no-one is sticking up for him.

I think it's because people confuse him with Charlie Croker.

Shame, I loved The Snowman as a boy, watch it every Christmas.

Nice sentiments there people. 🙄

He was still someone's father / husband / son.

He was still someone's father / husband / son.

Do they read STW?

Will there be a two-day national mourning schedule followed by a state funeral on world-wide television?

Didn't think playing guitar for the stones would get so much hate.

Oh no, the inventor of the biggs hoson 🙁 He was cool.

He was still someone's father / husband / son.

bigyinn - Member
Nice sentiments there people.

He was still someone's father / husband / son.

& a repugnant human being. Turned into a loveable rogue by the press who largely treated the crime as a victimless affair, despite the train driver never recovering. Ran like a chicken to escape justice and then squealed like a b**ch for free health care - then appealed to be released due to being 'about to die' - over 4 years ago.

hilter was someone's son too

He was still someone's father / husband / son.

I wonder if he gave the same consideration to the victims.

[quote=bigyinn ]Nice sentiments there people.
He was still someone's father / husband / son.

Death doesn't erase wrongdoing by the person. You're not washed clean when you shuffle off this mortal coil and the opinion on this thread is due to the deeds that made him infamous. As I said, I wish nobody dead but if you're going to be sympathetic I'm sure you can find more deserving of that.

Will there be a two-day national mourning schedule followed by a state funeral on world-wide television?

Don't see why not. The previous one robbed us blind as well, and she got all the trimmings.

Glad to see he's not being glorified on here.

Does anyone know if it's standard practise for people to be released on compassionate grounds when they are terminally ill?

But, but we need to argue about something today. Posthumous knighthood for his services to robbery.

Robin Hood.He stole from the rich. Mr Biggs and co stole from a mail train that was carrying "the peoples" money... Not quite how I saw Robin Hood.
I shall resist the temptation to be judgemental......

It always sickened me how the British press and the cool crowd (possibly post Malcolm Mclaren and Sex Pistols) fawned over him.

He was a criminal who ran away from justice.

Let's face it, he did a lot less harm to society in general than Thatcher. 😉

I thought he'd died years ago and the current fascination was just the media's way of getting you to tune into their latest wares. Sounds like a bit of a tosser anyway.

RIP Ronnie.. A hero and a role model to many, many people

It always sickened me how the British press and the cool crowd (possibly post Malcolm Mclaren and Sex Pistols) fawned over him.

Just to clarify - John Lydon was not involved.

"I think it's disgusting. That driver they coshed could have been my dad".

And let's not forget the ex-Lydon Pistols, Julien Temple and McLaren organising that great song with Biggs on lead vocal about how the holocaust was just the Nazi's idea of "having fun". Yeah. Cool.

& a repugnant human being. Turned into a loveable rogue by the press who largely treated the crime as a victimless affair, despite the train driver never recovering. Ran like a chicken to escape justice and then squealed like a b**ch for free health care - then appealed to be released due to being 'about to die' - over 4 years ago.

^ I think this post sums things up nicely.

RIP Ronnie.. A hero and a role model to many, many people

I imagine if your role model and hero is a man who was reponsible for another man's death, purely through greed, then there are some people that have some very skewed values

If he had done his time I think he'd be reviled less. His subsequent actions mean I'm not sorry at all, one less scumbag's medical bills to pay....

RIP Ronnie.. A hero and a role model to many, many people
I imagine if your role model and hero is a man who was reponsible for another man's death, purely through greed, then there are some people that have some very skewed values

If he had done his time I think he'd be reviled less. His subsequent actions mean I'm not sorry at all, one less scumbag's medical bills to pay....

I bet 'e laaaaved 'is old mum though, add in other Brit gangster clichés as required...

Just to clarify - John Lydon was not involved.

"I think it's disgusting. That driver they coshed could have been my dad".

Who's singing on these then?

may he rot in pieces.

RIP Ronnie.. A hero and a role model to many, many people

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In 1947, Ronnie Biggs joined the Royal Air Force. Two years later, he got into trouble with police and the military authorities. Dishonorably discharged for theft and other crime, Biggs received a short prison sentence for stealing a car. More criminal exploits followed, with Biggs ending up sentenced to more than three years in prison for robbery.

For much of the 1950s, Biggs cycled through the British criminal-justice system on numerous theft-related charges.

Sounds like a pretty sad, pathetic individual. Couldn't keep a job down and decided to take stuff for nothing.
Also, this is only when he got caught. No doubt there was plenty of other shitty stuff. Seems like he got lucky by getting on a "big" job.

Does anyone know if it's standard practise for people to be released on compassionate grounds when they are terminally ill?

There are maybe a dozen releases each year in the whole of the UK. Not every application is successful - but by the time it gets to the Ministers it has effectively already had several informal screens where it could fall down: the lawyer thought it was worth the effort; presumably the legal aid board agreed to fund it; the doctors wrote reports that supported the case; the minister then needs to consult the parole board etc. The general guidance is a life expectancy of 3 months (but of course that is - to an extent - guesswork). The English rules suggest they should be bedridden or severely incapacitated, and should not put the public at risk.

Good riddance.

Heard this on the news this morning, my first thought was "good." I did wonder if I'd get mauled for expressing that sentiment on here, but seemingly not.

So, good.

Nice of the BBC to have his story on the home page - nice to see he helped the cops by leaving his fingerprints at the hideout.

Interestingly his son (the one who was very vocal about release in 2009 IIRC) can be seen as a product of his efforts to evade justice - once he had a child in Brazil he was exempt from extradition.

bob_summers - Member

Just to clarify - John Lydon was not involved.

"I think it's disgusting. That driver they coshed could have been my dad".

Who's singing on these then?

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John Lydon/Rotten left the Sex Pistols during the American tour. Malcolm McClaren put the Great Rock and Roll Swindle film together without John Lydon after they had split..

For much of the 1950s, Biggs cycled through the British criminal-justice system on numerous theft-related charges.

At least he was a cyclist then.

:sorry:

😐

Yeah but I bet he didn't stop at red lights...

Who's singing on these then?

I hereby revise my opinion.

John Lydon is a tosseur. 👿

Slight diversion, as you were.

 

I'm sure there are many thousands of people in this world who died at the same time.
These were good, law obiding souls. Doctors, cleaners, carers, engineers, whatever.
Is there any mention of these poor people (apart from the local rag obituary)?
Why not?
Because the media couldn't care less. Of course they should do but they don't.
We too are to blame glorifying criminals for what they are.
Lets hope none of you guys comes accross the bad end of a bad guy.

Woppit, you are correct inasmuch as he had nothing to do with the Ronnie Biggs shenanigans, but unfortunately Belsen Was a Gas taints him somewhat.

I'm more interested in if he:
A) drove a Jaaaag
B) wore a sheepskin jacket
C) smoked cigars
D) wore a trilby hat

or all of the above..

You sllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

Ha Barbara Windsor spouted off about how he was a really nice, salt of the earth bloke yet?

Biggs being dead - could not give toss.

What I do give a toss about is the BBC making it their first news item on radio, tv and prime story on their homepage. He was 'bigg (sorry couldn't resist!) news' and a sort of celebrity back in the day (for reason that I think look rather foolish through modern eyes) so I can see that reporting his death was inevitable but it should have been a quick addendum at the end, almost to signify his lack of importance. In my opinion their handling of this makes them look yet again to have poor judgement.

I'm not sure that I was saying it for effect..

I've expressed this opinion on here before and I'll express it again.. I don't happen to agree with labelling criminals as scum.
In my opinion they have just chosen to turn their backs on an unscrupulous and grossly unfair society and said 'screw this for a game of soldiers, I'm gonna take what I want and the hell with the lot of you' which is not necessarily a bad thing IMO..
I'm not saying it's the right thing to do per say, or that we should all follow his example.. I just find something admirable in the way they have played the hand they were dealt..

Judge me if it makes you feel better about yourself

Am remarkably indifferent to his demise.

Irritated at his escape from justice at a point in his life when it would have mattered.

Looking forward to yunki not blubbing about having his bike stolen... 😆

On more important news:

That Lostprophets bloke is up for sentancing at the moment, I'm hoping he gets 1zillion years and lives to see that out.
Evil, truely evil.

yunki - Member

I'm not sure that I was saying it for effect..

I've expressed this opinion on here before and I'll express it again.. I don't happen to agree with labelling criminals as scum.
In my opinion they have just chosen to turn their backs on an unscrupulous and grossly unfair society and said 'screw this for a game of soldiers, I'm gonna take what I want and the hell with the lot of you' which is not necessarily a bad thing IMO..

How did you do on that psychopathy/Voight-Kampff test last week? 😀

In my opinion they have just chosen to turn their backs on an unscrupulous and grossly unfair society

Looking forward to yunki blubbing about having his bike stolen...

Or someone he loves getting ****ted with an iron bar?

I'm gonna take what I want and the hell with the lot of you' which is not necessarily a bad thing IMO..

Are you talking about Ronnie Biggs or bankers?

Judge me if it makes you feel better about yourself

re: Ian Watkins. He's just unbelievable;

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I got about 50% rustyspanner- a very well balanced and wholesome individual me 😀

Apologies for serious Thatcher point coming up....

Heard this on the news this morning, my first thought was "good." I did wonder if I'd get mauled for expressing that sentiment on here, but seemingly not.

So, good.

I seem to remember when Thatcher died that there was a fair amount of outrage on here about people celebrating her death (not saying it was from you Cougar) and people saying you should never celebrate anyone's death.

Seems to be quite a different view now...

Daily mash, as per usual, hits the nail centre mass:

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/man-celebrated-for-achievement-in-the-field-of-stealing-2013121882157 ]http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/man-celebrated-for-achievement-in-the-field-of-stealing-2013121882157[/url]

Anyone know what happened to his first wife and child that flew out to live with him in Australia before he did the runner to Rio?

You never hear from them, just his Brazilian son.

Anyone else think he looks like Michael Bentine?

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Have you gone potty time ?

I seem to remember when Thatcher died that there was a fair amount of outrage on here about people celebrating her death (not saying it was from you Cougar) and people saying you should never celebrate anyone's death.

Seems to be quite a different view now...

I don't think there much celebrating on here, merely people expressing a view point on him, ie that he was a lowlife and they aren't sorry to see him go. Doubt anyones planning a streetparty.....

Anyone know what happened to his first wife and child that flew out to live with him in Australia before he did the runner to Rio?
You never hear from them, just his Brazilian son.