[Closed] Robert Plant, is it just me?

Who’s Mike?

I'm quite liking the one they play on 6.
Not many people from his era still making decent music.

Seems an extreme course of action, what did Mike do to deserve that?

it's you

It's you.

But there are the occasional moments when he sings one of the Led Zep back catalogue when I think that he's pushing it a bit.

I like that they have adapted those songs though, and I suspect that's both to bring it in line with the other stuff they are playing and to accomodate his voice.

It’s you, leave him alone.

He can do what he likes, I ain't listening.

No ..its not just you !
Lost all interest after hearing his "country " album with Alison Krauss..what a crock of crap that was and wouldn't know what he has produced since..

I still have issues with burning down one side if I'm too hasty and don't pay attention...

Watched him on the Jools Holland show last night. I've seen better pub rock singers.

I don't think there's a single thing I've heard of his post-Zep that I've liked much but then I haven't followed his post-Zep career at all closely. I'm aware of "Big Log" (hate it) and I heard him on Jools Holland with Alison Krauss (hated that too, but then I've never liked country..)

On the other hand, no one's forcing me to listen to whatever it is he decides to do now or next, so I don't really find it necessary to take a stance on whether he should or shouldn't do it.

Much as I like Led Zep I find his solo stuff a bit hit and miss. I saw his set at Glastonbury and thought that was good but not into C&W so didn't get the Alison Krauss stuff.

At least he's not just touring with an ersatz Led Zep.

That's fair comment edlong..just a shame to see such a rock icon fall into such decline ..mind you what is a whole lot worse is someone who had zero talent actually believing they were gods gift ..
Please welcome to the stage Sir Bob Geldof ...

Or Ray Davis and macca.

clue's in the title

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He still does what he does well enough. While there's an audience for it good luck to him.

Led Zeppelin was a bit before my time and his other stuff passed me by but I thought he was excellent on 6 music the other day. So no he shouldn't hang Mike.

I’ll probably get grief for this, I don’t even like Led Zep.

Led Zeppelin was a bit before my time and his other stuff passed me by but I thought he was excellent on 6 music the other day.

His mixtape though...jeez! 😡

I had to turn over when he was on 6, I hate it when they get a 'legend' in and fawn all over them for the following two weeks. Meh. I don't like Led Zeppelin either.

He is very amusing when interviewed though.

His mixtape though...jeez!

Another reminder of why I can't stand 6 Music. Cheers. 🙂

This one's going out to FailedEngineer. Feel free to swoooooooooooon.... 8)

he's ok. you can hear in his voice all the things he's done to it if you listen to the old/new versions.

It's ok not to like Led Zep.
I just feel sorry for people like Funkmaster & DezB who didn't get to live through the golden era of the 70's..and have to stomach the utter drivel that's churned out these days 😆

as an aside, Alison Krauss would probably give anyone a decent punch in the face for calling her Country and Western

Lost all interest after hearing his "country " album with Alison Krauss

It's called 'Raising Sand', it was OK, I'd already been 'turned' by listening to a lot of Townes Van Zandt, so was intrigued by their cover of 'Nothing' which was actually OK and very different (and very NOT C&W).

The cover of Polly was also really well done, really different to the original while still recognisable. The original is waaay more C&W than the Plant and Krauss version.

My wife likes one of the other songs (Please Read the Letter) but it's pretty much straight down the road C&W so yeah, if that's not your scene then give it a miss.

Basically, even if Raising Sand was just a vanity project, it's a worthwhile listen if your tastes run that way.

Edit: playing fast and loose with definition of C&W above, when does C&W become Folk become Americana?

Alison Krauss would probably give anyone a decent punch in the face for calling her Country and Western

You [s]write[/s] say that but it would more than likely end up as just a blow to the chest.

I did live through the 70s.
I feel sorry for people who hark back to a "golden era" and have lost interest in discovering new music, referring to it all as utter drivel. Saddest thing I can imagine really. lolZ

I listen to plenty of new music through my 14 year old son and his musical tastes as he takes control of the in car entertainment system ..I also listen to a lot of upcoming new bands ..music will always play a big part in my life ..Ive made a good living from working a good portion of my life within the industry ( not as a musician ) both as a record company rep & later as a Regional Sales Manager for a major distribution company on behalf of all the major labels distributing chart , mid-price & budget material before the advent of online music killed that part of the industry ..
What's your story ? 😆

It's why I love and hate 6music in equal measure. Great for finding new music that works for me. But the radio2 dj humour/chat and the fawning interviews and cerys Matthews, wtf is she drivelling on about?

[i]What's your story ?[/i]

I love music and don't see any era as 'golden' over any other. But well done on being jaded by your career choice 😆

Jaded ? 😆
What part of " I listen to plenty of new music " did you not understand ..?
Seriously though just because you " love music " ..that makes your opinion more relevant does it ..thats really funny !
By the way if you look back at my "drivel" post you may find that I ended it with a " lol "...I was wondering if anyone would bite ....

Which opinion?

It's quite funny that you don't know what an opinion is.

Ah! you're the one who rates Roachford! That's all I need to know 😆

" The saddest thing that you can imagine " ..would be an opinion .
..Yep I thought Roachford was good when he blew the Stranglers away at the Simple Minds gig ...You were the one who thought the Stranglers were better than Simple Minds ..laughable !
By the way that's another opinion 😉

Back on topic, as a Zeppelin fan of many years I am not a huge fan of Plants solo stuff but at least he has moved on and is doing new things, whereas Jimmy Page sits in his studio re-mastering all the old stuff. Read somewhere he is doing the Yardbirds stuff now-Jeez!

I hope he releases a duet with Lily Allen about brexit.

Live music always has something to give, listened to all the maida Vale sessions on 6music and I thought they were all worth a go.

Plant still seems to be giving it some.

Keithd.
As long as he doesn't touch "Heart Full Of Soul "..just had a look at some old footage with a very youthful Jeff Beck ..shocking !

Jimmy Page likes cheese, but doesn't like anyone seeing him eat. He used to get the roadies to surround him with 4x12 speaker cabinet stacks so he could snack in peace.
True story from a friend who was a session player at the same time as Jimmy 8)

Eccentric or mad as a box of frogs depending on your point of view!

I enjoy Glastonbury from the comfort of my armchair … his middle of the afternoon set was the best thing of 2016 … admittedly that was as much to do with his band … it was full of smile inducing surprises.

I did dab ..
Mystery & intrigue...
Come on then who was this friend ?

He's not famous, he plays bass... 😆
His band did support The Who on tour though (back in the day)

I’ve no interest in his music, so not fussed about him as a ‘star’, but see him often (last time he was stood behind me in the queue at the bank) and pass time of day, everyone local to him hasn’t got a bad word to say about him, lovely bloke.

For anyone into the very latest music here's junior's most recent composition. Some kind of techno, I'm no specialist but it's his response to a conversation we had about how techno artists have used the same sound samples for years and perhaps he should seek out new ones or record some of his own. What do you lot think of it?

https://soundcloud.com/synthetiseur-records/underwood-tgv

RP's last album was his best since Manic Nirvana imo. The 'Somebody's There' track is glorious.

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What do you lot think of it?

It's okay. I like the breakdown around 6:30 but overall it's too drawn out for my tastes (though that's kind of the genre, isn't it). I reckon there's a few good melodies in there that aren't really exploited but again, the genre dictates a certain degree of presentation. If I re-mixed it I'd push a few of those closer to the front and have a few sections of shoving that stuff into folks heads so it rattles around after the track's finished.

Thanks, Teasel. Good constructive points for him. He plays live and DJs, and needs to adapt to not having a captive audience that are stil there at six minutes. Nine minutes is a long time to hold people on soundcloud, I'm impressed you got there!

I didn't say I wasn't giving it my best moves while listening...

But seriously, I did a few tracks with a guy from Brazil called Cavalaska and he started with some very similar stuff with similar construction faults that I helped to shape with a view to making something a bit more commercial. I haven't listened recently but he modified a few tracks to sit better with a wider audience and got a bit more interest. Last I heard he was kicking out a load of dubstep stuff. Might be worth junior having a listen when he gets a minute. Just another guy getting out there, doing his thing.

Edit : I'm no one special so take with a pinch of salt, obviously. Just a dabbler.

Just had a listen to ol' Cav. Sounds like he's gone back to doing his thing from BITD.

Not bad production, though probably not much use to your nipper.

'd already been 'turned' by listening to a lot of Townes Van Zandt

The Steve Earle cover on his album Townes is better.

oooo… THAT one on Later just now was fantastic … "Carry Fire".

This^ despite what you think of the content he's still got it.

Heard Paul McCartney sing live recently?

whereas Jimmy Page sits in his studio [s]re-mastering[/s] ruining all the old stuff

Ahem.

Plantys performance on Later.. was a damn fine example of a man with huge respected talents..

He was simply fabulous.

Listening to Carry Fire at the moment - I like it!

Listening to Carry Fire at the moment - I like it!

Am I allowed to prefer his voice now to then?

And Dreamland was fantastic.

And I love the Zep stuff

igm..
Yeah ..of course you are.
One man's heaven is another man's hell n all that..
It would be a bit boring if we all liked the same thing ..

The only issue I had with last nights performance on Later was the blooming violinist.. i suspect playing “upto” Planty means trying to play over him.. hope they got a talking to..

In his Zep days, definitely my man crush.

For something more recent, have this

And from the earlier days, have one of the best tracks, eva!

That's fair comment edlong..just a shame to see such a rock icon fall into such decline ...

Plant is still good.

As others have said ^^^ he's still able to perform to a high standard, because of past successes he can do what he wants without caring about what anyone else thinks, he's under no pressure to deliver commercial success, he continues to evolve and expand his/our musical horizons.

What's not to like?

I love Zep and love Plant's solo stuff; he's got a real canon of work now that stacks up with anyones from that era. Plus he's a really really sound bloke it seems.

I loved fate of nations and then all the strange sensation/sensational space shifter stuff. Plus the Unledded album from 1994, with the best version of Kashmir you can get in my opinion, with the massive Egyptian orchestra - awesome

page seems to have accepted that Zep was his high point so is just concerned with curating their legacy whereas Plant (and JPJ) are just into making new music.

I'm glad to see that Plant is sticking with his band and particularly Justin Adams as he knows he's onto a good thing. I'm so glad he didn't follow the money and tour as Led zep after the 2007 reunion

re 6music gig - so great to see the reworking of 'the lemon song' - I was dancing round the room to that with my 1 year old

[i]What's not to like?[/i]

Er, his voice and the music he makes. That's all really 😆

just a shame to see such a rock icon fall into such decline

Harsh much!?

Saw him at Roundhpuse a year or so ago and he was genuinely excellent. The band rolled out Wholle Lotta Love and it was a fantastic moment when Bob hit the heights. I was not expecting any Zep tracks to sound so darned good after all these years.
Haven't caught up with Catching Fire yet but the last album was really good.
His last 5-10 years are probably his best since Zep split. As said above, hardly anyone from his area is doing anything credible anymore - the guy is worthy of his leg-endedness.

Thanks DeZ, I sort of invited that but.....you know what I mean - I think/hope 🙂

If you said he should get a haircut, I would agree 🙂

Well I loved him on Jules....and album review according to Guardian 'artfully flesh out the rock and folk elements with splashes of bendir, oud and djembe' Ok he has done a few C & W bits but his backing bands are generally superb

Whats not to like, and at 69, keep on playing

Precisely.

What’s not to like?

Raising Sand in my case.

I have no problem with Raising Sand, I have other Alison Kraus music, and they work well together.
Bluegrass is just another folk music derived from Scottish, Irish and English tradition taken across to the US.
What it’s [i]not[/i] is C&W ‘hat music’.
Plant has always included aspects of music from other cultures and other parts of the world in his own, just listen to ‘Kashmir’.

CZ - I am Scots, I quite like folk and blue grass. Even some Northumbrian folk is OK.
And I agree with borrowing the bits of music he likes. Plant freely admits he’s done that. Sometimes it’s fantastic.

I just didn’t like that album. If you did, excellent it’s good that tastes differ.

Some lovely tracks on that Carry Fire album.

Confession - I heard a song on Jools and thought it was good. So pleased he doesn't try do that wailing anymore. Mostly, it was good guitars. Far from the worst thing on Later that's fer sher. Wouldn't buy the album though.