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To the * who tried to drive me off the road this morning because I indicated well in advance and then pulled into the outside lane of the A1 to overtake a lorry - I hope you enjoy being grilled by your boss, as I've just sent footage of your bullying style of driving and aggressive attempts at trying to force me off the road as you overtook me ( having pulled back in myself after the lorry).

I was driving my wife's small car, had I been in my own car would you have been quite such a *?

The uniform has given you away mate along with the MTB in the back and your registration number.

My official complaint and about 3 minutes of video is now logged with your employers. I hope you enjoy explaining your actions to your CO and the local Police!


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 8:37 am
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I'm sure he was just making progress. 🙂

Anyhow, are you posting the vid up for us, or what?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 8:40 am
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Lol, well done. I’d have him on the carpet without coffee  for sure!


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 8:42 am
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I would have a cup of sweet tea before posting the clip. 🙂


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 8:42 am
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I've had similar, but the other driver hit my van with his car after undertaking me and trying to cut me up. At least you are not having the pain of a "no fault" insurance claim to deal with (no witnesses).

Report to police as well - they'll keep it on file (and probably do nothing)


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 8:48 am
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RAF asked me not to post on SM, so will hold onto it until I get a response from them or the Police.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 8:54 am
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Unless you know which unit the driver is from or some further details other than the car details that coudl identify the driver, I would be surprised if anything got back to them.

Highly unlikely that whoever receives the complaint has a list of every serviceperson's vehicles to be able to trace them.

I would be annoyed if my employer kept a detailed log of every private vehicle that I drive to and from work and used it for purposes other than controlling access to the car park/site.

If dangerous or criminal driving then surely reporting to the Police is the correct course of action?

Edit: Ignore the above. looks like you have reported it to the Police. Hopefully someone (RAF or Police) track them down and have a firm word with them


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 8:57 am
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I had a similar experience recently with Derbyshire police. The vehicle was "untraceable" from the reg I gave them. It didn't show on the dvla site either. Two months later, the car is still driving around with the same plate and still doesn't show on the dvla. It was all just brushed under the carpet as far as I can see. The lack of visible reg makes me think the car is one of their own and they've closed ranks.

I hope you get a better outcome than I did.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 9:02 am
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Yes, reported to the Police which is probably futile, however I'm pretty sure that all RAF employees vehicles need to have passes to allow access to their base, which no doubt would be kept on a database which can be searched?

Worth a shot anyway.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 9:02 am
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Was at least expecting in flight footage 🙄


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 9:12 am
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I would be annoyed if my employer kept a detailed log of every private vehicle that I drive to and from work and used it for purposes other than controlling access to the car park/site.

If dangerous or criminal driving then surely reporting to the Police is the correct course of action?

In a case like this I'd expect my employer to take H&S and professional standards seriously and assist the police in identifying the driver and working with them to help educate the driver. When wearing any kind of uniform you are representing your employer.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 9:12 am
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Sounds like he was flying along, like greased lightning. Was he in a Jaguar?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 9:17 am
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The vehicle was “untraceable” from the reg I gave them. It didn’t show on the dvla site either.

A mate who should know has told me that certain vehicles have "do not stop" plates that are untraceable. His connection was security services, but it's easy to think that the rozzers have the ability to have these as well. They can also be badged as whatever they want to be.

Anyway, back to the OP, A1? Should help narrow down the base in question. Keep an eye out like a hawk.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 9:30 am
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RAF asked me not to post on SM, so will hold onto it until I get a response from them or the Police.

Hmmm... 🤔


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:00 am
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I think I know the guy - he has history of high speed passes over five air control towers—and one admiral's daughter!

RM.


 
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RAF asked me not to post on SM, so will hold onto it until I get a response from them or the Police.

Well, perhaps the driver should have thought of that before driving like a complete goon then.  Why should you be helpful in any way, shape or form after your safety has been put at risk by some idiot?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:08 am
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This kind of incident needs to be dealt with through the propeller channels.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:09 am
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I suspect the RAF will just beret it.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:12 am
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When you put on the brakes, did he fly right by?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:14 am
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If the police try to search his base I suspect they’ll be told “you’ll need a warrant, officer”


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:17 am
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Was the highway where the manoeuvre took place in good condition or was it apache piece of tarmac?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:19 am
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Careful the RAF might own you with a set of Bombers.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:21 am
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Were you communicating?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:23 am
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Worth a shot anyway.

Military justice eh? Seems a bit harsh.

Surely some sort of Fixed Penalty Notice would be more appropriate.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:25 am
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I would have a cup of sweet tea before posting the clip.

Ty-Phoon?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:26 am
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Perchy wins.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:41 am
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You’ll have to pick the driver from an ID parade I bet.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:43 am
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It's a Valiant attempt at making them take notice. I do hope you're the Victor in this situataion. If you do post the video on social media. Will you post the Lynx?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:44 am
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These puns are starting to runway with the thread


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:45 am
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Was the driver behaving erratically?

He might have had some aileron drugs.


 
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I would be annoyed if my employer kept a detailed log of every private vehicle that I drive to and from work and used it for purposes other than controlling access to the car park/site.

If dangerous or criminal driving then surely reporting to the Police is the correct course of action?

In a case like this I’d expect my employer to take H&S and professional standards seriously and assist the police in identifying the driver and working with them to help educate the driver. When wearing any kind of uniform you are representing your employer.

This, insist an investigation at the very least and get Plod involved.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:49 am
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Maybe he just felt the need, the need for speed.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:53 am
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It sounds like you were on the highway to the danger zone.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:54 am
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In a case like this I’d expect my employer to take H&S and professional standards seriously and assist the police in identifying the driver and working with them to help educate the driver. When wearing any kind of uniform you are representing your employer

which is why work stuff stays at work, so I can drive like a **** on the road 😉


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:55 am
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When wearing any kind of uniform you are representing your employer.

I suspect the RAF take this very seriously too.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 10:58 am
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The RAF once caused me to fall off my bike. I was riding in to Ben Macdhui from Braemar. I was carrying skis on my back, and wearing ski boots.

A Tornado gave me close pass - I could see the rivets - and I metaphorically shat myself. An embarrassing fall, though I doubt the pilot was using a rear view mirror. I was temporarily deafened and did not get the reg.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:06 am
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I would be annoyed if my employer kept a detailed log of every private vehicle that I drive to and from work and used it for purposes other than controlling access to the car park/site.

Never had the need to access or work on a military base have you?  Standards of behaviour for those that do are higher - e.g. you can be stopped, searched and drink / drug-tested whilst on an operational base. Civil police pass info to MOD Police who can do search and pass info to unit commander. Mind you, the worst driving standards I've seen on some bases were from those in uniform....


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:07 am
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Bingo - RAF Wittering "We have identified the vehicle involved in this morning's incident"

Love the.humour👍


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:11 am
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Sounds like someone will be getting their marching orders.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:16 am
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Punnage is High today 😉


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:20 am
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Was he driving a per ardua ad ASTRA by any chance?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:23 am
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How do you do know he will see your rant?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:32 am
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This kind of incident needs to be dealt with through the propeller channels.

Facebook?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:32 am
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If he’s from Wittering, there’s a good chance he’s a professional driver 😕!

(Sorry no puns)


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 11:54 am
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Definitely will lose his hair gel and mirror privileges for a month, just hope you're happy with that !


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 12:13 pm
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You're all so obsessed with making puns that you've forgotten to victim blame! 🙄

So OP, after you pulled out in front of the other driver, forcing him to alter course, what exactly happened...? :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 12:18 pm
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Let's hope this changes his altitude in future


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 12:27 pm
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Do all car drivers do road rage or is it just one type that has been singled out ?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 12:29 pm
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Was it this guy?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 12:40 pm
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If he has been caught he’ll probably just say “damn, busted”


 
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I indicated well in advance and then pulled into the outside lane of the A1 to overtake a lorry

Oh so you were doing 56mph.  Stuck your indicator on and moved out forcing the vehicle to brake to 57mph. Or did the kind gentleman see you indicating and flash you to pull out?

I was driving my wife’s small car, had I been in my own car would you have been quite such a ****?

Are you suggesting you hadn't taken in to consideration the road conditions, and that your car took an eternity to get to 70mph?

Maybe the person in said vehicle just thought pulling out without giving consideration to the speed of traffic coming behind was a bit daft. (not excusing him being a d!ck though)


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 1:28 pm
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Hope you have better luck than I did.

Dangerous close pass on a narrow road blind bend with double white lines, forced oncoming traffic to a halt.

Car had a private plate and dotGov site showed MOT a month out of date.

Unenthusiastic response from the police and its still driving around now MOT five months out of date.

Lack of funding?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 1:30 pm
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sounds like you got their Atten-SHUN!


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 1:34 pm
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I was driving my wife’s small car, had I been in my own car would you have been quite such a ****?

Nothing to add apart from that made me chuckle.

Driving past Wittering in a bit. Will keep an eye out for anyone doing extended drills in their pants.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 1:50 pm
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There’s no need to get in a flap about it I suppose.


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 1:52 pm
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Flashy???


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 3:04 pm
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extended drills in their pants.

Ooh-err, etc

I'm sure he was just requesting a fly-by, you just didn't tell him the pattern was full.


 
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I was driving my wife’s small car, had I been in my own car would you have been quite such a ****?

Nothing to add apart from that made me chuckle.

Me too.

Such an odd thing to say 😆


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 3:59 pm
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The OP's own car?


 
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Such an odd thing to say

Not really. Both myself and my better half have noticed we get far less hassling behaviour from drivers of larger, more powerful cars when we're driving our larger, more powerful car; my other half noticed this markedly after we got rid of her old Polo.


 
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I think the OP's getting a bit (re)heated about all this. It's alright piloting all the blame on someone else & to some degree I understand why he wants to spit fire, but the OP has to realise it's a Really Awful Fact that this stuff happens every day & he should stop Wittering on about it!


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 4:30 pm
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Were there any wheelie bins involved?


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 5:38 pm
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This guys seems to have a real Maverick approach to driving, perhaps once he has been spoken to by his superiors he will feel like his Goose is cooked.

Im just glad you chinook the time to report the incident, im sure the time will flyby until you hear an outcome on the result.


 
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The poor **** is probably on his way to Colchester as we speak !


 
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Not really. Both myself and my better half have noticed we get far less hassling behaviour from drivers of larger, more powerful cars when we’re driving our larger, more powerful car; my other half noticed this markedly after we got rid of her old Polo.

Yup. I currently drive a teeny little Yaris, and a beaten up old panel van. My experience is that people in big flash cars definitely pull out on you, tailgate you, play chicken with you, and try to push you around a lot more often when you're in a small car.

And when you're in a 15yo mangled skip on wheels that clearly doesn't owe you anything and has various coloured paint stripes on the bumpers, even people in white Audi SUVs almost start acting like polite human beings, it's quite remarkable. I love my van...


 
Posted : 02/05/2018 8:37 pm
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I used to find this in my wife's Yaris, it really doesn't happen as much now she has a Pasatt estate. The Yaris was 1.8 though with some mods so it could make the unwary big flash car driver look like a **** tit!


 
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I would be annoyed if my employer kept a detailed log of every private vehicle that I drive to and from work and used it for purposes other than controlling access to the car park/site

When im working, I drive a great many private cars, my employer does not allow their use for any private purposes, mileage is recorded electronically, fuel is recorded, and places I take the cars to and from have the registration logged and take my name and sign for the car. Usually,; there are one or two places that don’t. Military bases that I visit take my photo and issue an ID card, and all details are logged. I’d be very, very surprised if that vehicle, if it goes on site at the owner’s base, doesn’t have all of its details logged against the owner’s service number and personal details and photo, security would demand it, especially when there are gentleman standing around at the entrance holding loaded automatic weapons.


 
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Countzero: You're right in part. If the driver takes his car onto base then he will have to have a car pass which is logged against his details for that site. However, the IT systems are site specific and it doesn't generate a generic service wide list of all cars logged against personnel i.e. if you got to another camp, you have to provide all the same details again.


 
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Sounds like his driving is a bit (a)pache   ......


 
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Our last car was a cheeky little Clio Renaultsport. Seemingly every other white van driver would compliment me or wife about it in the queue when filling up and let you out of junctions with a cheery thumbs up. Now we have an Audi TT............let's just say you have to work harder to get out of junctions and more time to think to yourself in the petrol station 🙂 In our self build campervan that looks like a boggo white van from most angles you get acres of space to drive in. To be fair when it's raining I can see the square route of bugger all behind me so probably a good thing. From my experience your treatment on the road is effected by what you are driving at the time. Low powered vehicles making ambitious lane changes and unable to make it up to the speed of others in the lane before the car you have pulled out in front of has to put the brakes on are doing themselves no favours in the relationships stakes however. I've always used the concept that my actions behind the wheel should not force another driver to make an adjustment as a good starting point to good driving.

I don't get people getting angry behind the wheel; try as I might I can't get wound up.


 
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I also regularly drive a little Yaris, a selection of work vans, a T4 camper van and a lovely new Passatt GTE Estate.

I seem to get the same treatment from other road users regardless of what I’m driving.  Never noticed any difference at all.

Possibly related to my post in the “wife speeding” thread though, who knows 🤔


 
Posted : 03/05/2018 8:02 am
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"Never noticed any difference at all."

Says more about you really, doesn't it? 😉


 
Posted : 03/05/2018 8:28 am
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'Come in, close the door, DON'T SIT DOWN!'


 
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Says more about you really, doesn’t it?

Possible, although I doubt it to be honest.

A Million trouble free miles driven in the last 14 years or so says I’m not too bad at it. 👍


 
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And when you’re in a 15yo mangled skip on wheels that clearly doesn’t owe you anything and has various coloured paint stripes on the bumpers, even people in white Audi SUVs almost start acting like polite human beings, it’s quite remarkable. I love my van…

Genuine LOL


 
Posted : 03/05/2018 10:02 am
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Not really. Both myself and my better half have noticed we get far less hassling behaviour from drivers of larger, more powerful cars when we’re driving our larger, more powerful car; my other half noticed this markedly after we got rid of her old Polo.

I've found the opposite around here.  No bother at all driving around in our Polo, but tailgaters seem much more common when driving our BMW 530d MSport.  People with some sort of point to prove I guess.


 
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A million trouble free miles? neal glover - 70 000 per annum? 4 - 5 hours driving every day of the year for 14 years?


 
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A million trouble free miles? neal glover – 70 000 per annum? 4 – 5 hours driving every day of the year for 14 years?

😁 He’s never noticed any difference in the vehicles because he’s stuck for hours each day in traffic jams.

I did 50,000 miles last year, mainly in a large company car. Very noticeably different treatment in this compared to my family small hatch, especially in the outside lane of the motorway.


 
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