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Just spotted this is on again - excellent watch for anyone interested in that period of history, or wondering if there are parallels with the rise of populist right wing politicians in recent years.
Is this Farage’s life story?
On a slightly diferent subject, 'The Fifty Years War' is an excellent 7 part documentary on iPlayer.
I got moderated last time I mentioned it because I mentioned the "I" word.
It provides some really good context for the current geo-political mess - plot spoiler/twist, it's a right old mess.
Just finished Berlin:The Downfall 1945. Compelling reading and an absolute must if you are in any way curious as to how the third reich ended. I thought I had read enough about WW2 to never be shocked again, but by christ was I wrong.
Is this Farage’s life story?
Parallels could be drawn, a dangerous individual with a popular following who other politicians thought might be "useful"
Does it cover how the nazis were funded by America?
Are you sure its not just The Daily Politics show?
Does it cover how the nazis were funded by America?
Or the bit about how the Daily Mail agreed with many of the things Oswald Mosley had to say ?.
Or how many of the royals were nazi sympathisers/fans/actual members?
How many?
Well here's a couple that took no time at all to find:
Prince Philip had four sisters, all of whom married members of the German aristocracy—three of those men became Nazis.
German ambassador to the UK, Leopold von Hoesch, wrote to Berlin, "King Edward, quite generally, feels warm sympathy for Germany. I have become convinced during frequent, often quite lengthy, talks with him that his sympathies are deep-rooted and strong enough to withstand the contrary influences to which they are not seldom exposed.
the great-grandson of Queen Victoria of England, a Nazi prince, who is married to the daughter of the king of Italy. And he would begin to shuttle back and forth between Hitler and the pope over the next two years, engaged in secret negotiations.
Following their marriage, Wallis and Edward embarked on a jetsetting lifestyle that attracted wide publicity.
No trip, however, was more controversial than the one the newlyweds took to Germany in 1937, a mere two years before Britain declared war.
It was "the tip of the iceberg": the first in a long string of incidents that linked the couple to Adolf Hitler, causing rumours to run rampant around the world that the former king was a Nazi sympathiser and his wife a Nazi spy.
Honestly, there is loads if you look for it, even rumours of our old Queen doing a Nazi salute. You could argue that they didn't know how bad the Nazis were at the beginning and that there is always the black sheep of the family etc, etc.....
Someone even wrote a book about it.
Nazis and Nobles: The History of a Misalliance
So just one member of the British royal family then - Edward VIII, the one that everyone knows about, the others were German.
QE2 was filmed fooling around as a child doing a Nazi salute, you think that made her a Nazi sympathizer? Have you ever done a Nazi salute fooling around?
Does it cover how the nazis were funded by America?
Seems like a well thought through and nuanced question.
Is Holly Valance in it?
Seems like a well thought through and nuanced question.
Oh, you wanted a nuanced response on a mtb forum, er you new here?
I understand that the Nazis is a big aubject, but I'm pretty sure it's obvious to my question what I am asking.
So just one member of the British royal family then – Edward VIII, the one that everyone knows about, the others were German.
Their german relatives, just because they are foreign born, it doesn't mean that they're not our (UK) royal family. You do realise that the royal family changed their german last name don't you?
You do realise that the royal family changed their german last name don’t you?
You do realise that you are stretching the point a bit? Are you responsible for your cousins actions, or even your brotherin laws?
Is Holly Valance in it?
What, the Nazi Party?
I mean, I heard she was "a bit" right wing, but...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nazis-nobles-the-history-of-a-misalliance-by-stephan-malinowski-review-why-the-german-nobility-rallied-to-hitler-z5nkbp25b/blockquote >So the Getman nobility, not the British royal family, as you suggested.
but I’m pretty sure it’s obvious to my question what I am asking.
No, it really isn't, you'll have to tell us.
You do realise that you are stretching the point a bit? Are you responsible for your cousins actions, or even your brotherin laws?
This is not what I said, but hey ho.
You do realise that the royal family changed their german last name don’t you?
So that made them Nazis?
That's a pretty low hurdle. I bet the prosecutors at the Nuremberg Trials would have wished that they could have used that as incriminating evidence.
ANSWER THE QUESTION! HAVE YOU GOT A GERMAN SURNAME?
ANSWER THE QUESTION! HAVE YOU GOT A GERMAN SURNAME?
Don't tell him your name Herr Pike!
Is this a historical documentary, or current events?
Is this a historical documentary, or current events?
I'm not sure, but no members of the Royal family were harmed during the filming....
Nah, it's the worst of all; reenactment!
I'm not saying the real man didn't; but the actor they get to play Schleicher may as well just twirl his mustache, and creep about theatrically on his tip-toes behind a cape raised to just beneath his eyes, Scoobie stylee...
This country had a Nazi movement and in the US The Third Wave experiment showed how easy it was to create the right atmosphere for most people to become Nazis - it wasn't just a German thing at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment)
Yeah the rise of the Nazis was a German thing. Nazis didn't come to power in Britain and the US.
Language semantics.
Nazi Party was a fairly specific thing.
Other right wing nationalist fascists are available.
Fascists then :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists
Anyway the point was about how easily it is to influence a group into thinking that way, as in The Third Wave experiment.
Just look at al the recent events, like Trump and his extreme supporters, all the group think shown on social media, etc