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I am prone to athletes foot. Treat it with Daktarin powder or similar. It goes away but will always come back at some point.
Did a bit of research online and bought some Clinisept+ Podiatry foot spray.
It cost £15 for 500ml delivered. That was the cheapest I could find it without buying a bulk 5 litre bottle.
It's ingredients are water, sodium hypochlorite and phosphoric acid.
So it's basically a weak bleach solution with rust remover thrown in, in a bottle that has some nice bullshit graphics on it.
Does it work?
I don't know yet.
If it does, I'll make up a very weak bleach solution and refill the bottle.
Maybe a slightly stronger one to spray the insides of my boots and shoes.
Soak all my socks with it before washing.
Have a go at making your own. I’m sure you’ll guess the ratios right first time.
You could argue just about any big brand painkillers & such like, when generic or own brand versions cost pennies.
Have a go at making your own. I’m sure you’ll guess the ratios right first time.
I'm sure if I keep it weak then it will be fine.
Doubt I'll bother with the rust remover.
Although the branded stuff does have "Advanced hypochlorous technology".
Have a go at making your own. I’m sure you’ll guess the ratios right first time.
With a pack of chlorine concentration test strips from a pool supply store and a bottle of pH indicator, it probably isn't difficult to get far off. To be honest with mild bleach solution you could probably get the bleach component about right using just the sniff test, and then add phosphoric acid to taste*.
*don't literally taste it.
Does it work?
I don’t know yet.
Shit review.
There's probably a whole 25 minute YouTube unboxing and reaction video waiting to be made.
To be fair, generic medicines have to undergo human testing, and formulation is very tightly constrained to be rigorously similar to the generic expensive innovator.
Your drug concentration profile over time must look the same as the innovator drug. That won’t be the same with bleach spray unless you have some testing. I wouldn’t be relying on the sniff test, but pH stocks might work.
Strepsils - nearly £6 a pack for boiled sweets!
Normally buy supermarket own brands but they’d run out - just couldn’t spend £6 on Strepsils so bought a pack of Jakemans for £1.50.
Alloy wheels cleaner relabeled?
You only have to fool enough people, some of the time.
Why aren't you adding the rust remover bit? Clearly they think it helps but your research suggests otherwise?
I’m sure if I keep it weak then it will be fine.
The scientist preparing this knows the difference between weak and dilute. The company presumably has QC procedures to make sure that any silly mistakes are caught, and regulatory compliance is achieved.
Doubt I’ll bother with the rust remover.
you think they added that for fun, at extra cost and hassle. Since the availability of free chlorine is linked to the pH, and probably pH too high (or too low) is tough on skin.
Although the branded stuff does have “Advanced hypochlorous technology”.
Clearly marketing bs - but how confident are you you can adjust the pH without ending up with a cloud of toxic chlorine gas?
I dab neat eucalyptus oil on athletes foot and it works.
... it contains aqua ...
I've seen that particular piece of marketing BS in the ingedients labelling on lots of things. Always makes me smile
well, our grout comes up a treat
Noted
Currently using bleach and bicarb. Might try it between my toes too.
Obviously I'll squirt it at the neighbours puppy first, see how it fares. No one wants to get hurt
Doesn’t coke contain phosphoric acid? Maybe add a drop of that in?
Plasters are my favourite rip off medical products
Why aren’t you adding the rust remover bit? Clearly they think it helps but your research suggests otherwise?
I guess It's there to reduce the PH level.
I think I have some strips in my brew kit somewhere, I'll check it.
I self-diagnosed athlete's foot. I mentioned it at the doctor's whilst there for something else, he recommended generic Caniston. I said the Pharmacist had given me a spray, I'd used the entire can. He was very clear, "not spray, cream."
The website says it contains aqua, it doesn’t say anything about water.
As long as there’s no Dihydrogen Monoxide in there. Nasty stuff that can kill you in minutes.
PJayFree
You could argue just about any big brand painkillers & such like, when generic or own brand versions cost pennies.
Pretty sure I've read (or podcast) they are 'slightly' more effective, but probably only due to a plasebo effect, not the contents of the pill. People believe in branding
ive tried the cream but I find it makes the itching intolerable. Much prefer powder but have found it hard to find recently, so have been using spray which personally I find suboptimal
Work boots and crocs are the culprits
Tomhoward speaks the truth - it can be deadly (and not talking drowning) - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill/
crocs are the culprits
Clearly, the athletes foot is replacing your dignity.
The best product for athletes foot in my long history of being inflicted with it is neat surgical spirit applied liberally, stings a bit but clears it up quickly.
Vitamins (apart from vitamin D) and supplements in most cases.
I am prone to athletes foot. Treat it with Daktarin powder or similar. It goes away but will always come back at some point.
If your preexisting treatment works, and you are happy with the price of daktarin powder, why change it?
It sounds to me that you need to deal with the cause, you have already found a successful treatment for the condition.
If your preexisting treatment works, and you are happy with the price of daktarin powder, why change it?
It sounds to me that you need to deal with the cause, you have already found a successful treatment for the condition.
I'm not happy with the price of the powder, that's one of the reasons I was looking for alternatives. It's a £5 for a small bottle and it doesn't last long.
I was going to use the spray to treat my shoes and footbeds.
Hang on, if you have an alkaline solution (bleach) and you add an acid to it, don’t you just end up with a weaker acid or a weaker bleach and perhaps some fizziness?
How bad is your athletes foot to need to refill the bottle with a home made solution of bleach and rustremover?
Jakemans for £1.50.
Jakemans are very good for soothing sore throats from coughing.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill//blockquote >
Pretty sure our primary school told us this back in the 80's.“not spray, cream.”
Yep just add a spot of rust remover to your bum butter.
I actually wear crocs instead of slippers as they have good ventilation and don't hold moisture..
My scenario might be different but I suffer really bad from clammy feet which in turn gives me foot rot if I wear trainers all day etc..
I find I have pretty much zero problems after switching to crocs to wear around the house instead of slippers or trainers.
I still have to be mindful I dont use the same 'outside shoes' all the time and rotate them.
How bad is your athletes foot to need to refill the bottle with a home made solution of bleach and rustremover?
It's not that bad, normally only effects a couple of toes, doesn't break the skin or anything. But I hate the hot itchy feeling.
The best product for athletes foot in my long history of being inflicted with it is neat surgical spirit applied liberally, stings a bit but clears it up quickly.
Well I have a 5 litre bottle of hand sanitizer liquid, left over from lockdown. It's basically surgical spirit with a moisturiser added, so I might give that a go.
I still have to be mindful I dont use the same ‘outside shoes’ all the time and rotate them.
I might try that as well, spray the shoes after wearing and leave them for a day before using again.
I'm sure daktarin do a shoe spray that works out cheaper.
I actually wear crocs instead of slippers as they have good ventilation and don’t hold moisture..
Flipflops are even better plus they have the added advantage of being somewhat more aesthetically pleasing
It’s a £5 for a small bottle and it doesn’t last long.
Can you get a large bottle on prescription for £10?
I don't know, this sounds to me like "quitting smoking is easy, I've done it loads of times." You say the treatment works but the condition keeps returning then... well, it doesn't work then, does it. If it's aggravated by work boots, try different socks. If it's crocs, throw them away and get some sandals or slippers.
And if it's guesswork, go to the doctor. What you describe sounds more like eczema to me. Eczema is chronic, athlete's foot is an infection.
After a night of being kept awake by the hot/ itching of athletes foot, I used a bleach bathroom cleaning spray by Astonish out of desperation a couple of years back**.
It worked but also bleached the bedding a bit.
Totally worth it though, it was driving me nuts.
** I have a liberal attitude to DIY medical stuff, don't you be silly though.
I just go barefoot around the house unless its especially cold and I'm inactive.
Hang on, if you have an alkaline solution (bleach) and you add an acid to it, don’t you just end up with a weaker acid or a weaker bleach and perhaps some fizziness?
not quite as simple as that - but if you get it wrong “some fizziness” is actually going to be chlorine gas - uses in WWI as a chemical weapon, and the result of many a swimming pool evacuation over the years when someone, with some training and test kits at their disposal, gets it wrong…
Barefoot in this house it would be frostbite I need treatment for.
If you're considering going barefoot, bear in mind that athlete's foot is contagious.
Why not use tea tree oil?
It occurs to me that stuff we buy is available because in many cases it works well, or at least better than the stuff we as individuals are capable of making. Because it works well people continue to buy it and develop a trust in it due to it being 'good'.
Obviously there are many examples of exceptions to this such as products of 'unknown to us' efficacy we are persuaded to buy because of advertising, recommendation and other similar pressures and also of products we purchase because of convenience- e.g. bread and Brussel sprouts and so on; yes, we could produce our own and some people do but most of the UK population don't I'd wager, because they weigh it all up and choose to use their time/ space/ money on something else such as a proprietary product. Thankfully the days of Snake Oil 'patent' medicines are long gone.
When it comes to saving a couple of quid on some home-brewed concoction where you have taken the recipe from the original purveyor and adapted with ill advised and potentially dangerous consequences; so be it. But is it really worth it? Perhaps you can find a homeopathic remedy for your feet.
Blimey I’m sounding harsh here.
Nizoral shampoo is good for all sorts of minor skin conditions, dunno how good it is for athlete's foot though
If you're in Wales, go talk to your local community pharmacist. We can sort this sort of thing for free.
If not, Lamisil Once. It's not cheap, but it's very effective and guess how many times you need to apply it...
and guess how many times you need to apply it…
Every time it comes back?
The equivalent to a match stick head of potassium pomanganate in a bowl of warm water, every other night.
Slightly purple feet but obliterates tinia pedis.
There was some ridiculous agreement about the about the labelling of medicine that said water could be described as aqua
You could argue just about any big brand painkillers & such like, when generic or own brand versions cost pennies.
True, but a particular, well advertised hay fever tablet is taking the piss selling a packet for £6.99, when the exact same active ingredient in tablet form, in smaller and less whizzy packaging can be had for 60p, and work just as well. I can buy around three months supply, 3x30 tablet packs for less than half the price.
Cough syrup. It might work when you first swallow a spoonful, but you're not going to stop swallowing any time soon. Thus eroding any "coating" . Suck a boiled sweet instead.
It’s ingredients are water, sodium hypochlorite and phosphoric acid.
So it’s basically a weak bleach solution with rust remover thrown in, in a bottle that has some nice bullshit graphics on it.
Although the branded stuff does have “Advanced hypochlorous technology”.
Ok, so that would be a dangerous misunderstanding of the chemistry but you've somehow fallen onto the safe (but not very effective) side of the Dunning Kruger trap.
A VERY VERY DILUTE SOLUTION OF THOSE INGREDIENTS Sodium Hypochlorite plus phosphoric acid will give you sodium phosphate and Hypochlorous Acid.
Any more concentrated and you get excess chlorine that cannot dissolve into the water, which forms chlorine gas, which reacts with any moisture like your eyeballs and your lungs to really f*** you up. That would be the nasty side of the Dunning Kruger trap.
Why is “Advanced hypochlorous technology” necessary? Because it's about 100x more effective as a biocide / fungicide than sodium hypochlorite so works at low concentrations. The aim is to kill the fungus, not bleach your feet.
Why isn't all bleach just swapped for “Advanced hypochlorous technology” then? Because it's very difficult to make a shelf stable solution that doesn't just evaporate to chlorine gas. So you can only get it already diluted and no one's going to buy 10l of mostly water every time they mop the floor when they can get the same result with a cap full of bleach (which also contains a lot of surfactants to do the actual cleaning but as well).
If we're on Athlete's Foot treatment, nothing was better than the old Scholl and Mycil powders, but they disappeared cos (a pharmacist told me) the world ran out of the active ingredient.. probably Brexit involved somewhere though...
Anyway, prevention is better than cure - just get some of that generic anti-fungal powder Amazon sell and use it every time you put your socks on (cotton socks, you do wear socks of course?)
On the theme of the thread (and similarly infection related), I got that "jock itch" once a few years back. Bought some herbal remedy oil stuff from Amazon and my word it was horrible - and useless. Like pouring olive oil over your crotch and expecting it to stay on the infected part, but running over your arse crack and down your legs. Wouldn't have minded the discomfort if it had worked, but nah, was completely useless. Did smell quite nice though.
How about Saline spray for blocked noses – I just spent £7 on a bottle of slightly salty water. I assume it doesn't even need to be medically-tested as it doesn't contain any active ingredients. I should have just got a plant mister filled with salty water and rammed it up my nostrils.
How about Saline spray for blocked noses
A friend of mine recommended this sinus rinse. I was sceptical but bought one in the end to shut her up. It's fantastic.
Hopi Indian Ear Candles.
No.
They are not melting the earwax.
They are not drawing it out through the middle of the magic candle.
They do not have tangible benefits.
They do not help asthma, headaches or hay fever.
You just have a lit candle in your ear and you look like a ****.
Gotta wonder about the thought process of someone who lights a candle and then wonders "wow, where did all that wax come from?!"
To paraphrase Dara O'Brian talking about herbal remedies, "... then we tested them all, the ones which worked we called 'medicine' and the rest is a nice bowl of soup and some pot pourri."
A friend of mine recommended this sinus rinse. I was sceptical but bought one in the end to shut her up. It’s fantastic
if anyone does use one be sure to clean thoroughly after each use. Fil was told by GP in the States to use one to shift an infection but made it worse by continually shooting germs back up as he never cleaned it… :vomit: emoji
What? You don't suck saline back out!
Quick google came up with this.
https://www.seattletimes.com/life/wellness/athletes-foot-bleach-treatment-is-controversial/
So has been around since the great war
fungal toe nails are even worse,
I have found that this stuff https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09WW3WSQD/ref=sns_myd_detail_page actually works, but it does take a very long time, applying it every day for months.