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Am I alone in just "not getting" some of these? (the ones where you are dressing up, not for any activity, I suppose)
I understand the nostalgia re old bikes and classic cars (and I appreciate both) but enthusiasm for older times...less so: things were more sexist, racist, Police were under less scrutiny (and took advantage of it), sex abuse was overlooked, people were more deferential etc...
I just don't get the appeal of pretending it's the 50s/60s/70s. Each to their own of course!
Preparing for brexit, innit?
things were more sexist, racist, Police were under less scrutiny (and took advantage of it), sex abuse was overlooked
Pretty sure the revivals don't go into that much detail, but no, I don't get them either.
I go to the Silverstone Classic and love it, but buggered if I'd dress in anything more than my usual shorts and t-shirt.
things were more sexist, racist, Police were under less scrutiny (and took advantage of it), sex abuse was overlooked
I love them.
I dress up as a 1970's policeman, find a young lady from an ethnic minority and give her a good ol' slap on the arse.
Anybody who complains gets a good hiding and a night in the cells.
In the future when there is a revival of this time period it will have people walking round wringing their hands & getting offended over everything.
In the future when there is a revival of this time period it will have people walking round wringing their hands & getting offended over everything.
Nahhh, they'll all be on their phones trolling.
Is driving a 1950's car dressed like you're from the 1950's even though you're not any weirder than riding a bike dressed in lycra when you're not pro?
TINAS, given lycra is demonstrably better for cycling in even for non-pros, moot point.
Don't spectators @ Goodwood have to dress up to?
Having been to the Goodwood Revival on numerous occasions it's just an excuse for a bit of fancy dress like when we were youngsters. Most of the people there are too young to have been around at the time (the original period in time it's based upon) so it is more in the spirit of than an accurate reproduction.
It's all a lot more Carry On / Dad's Army than Saturday Night Sunday Morning / Cathy Come Home.
TINAS, given lycra is demonstrably better for cycling in even for non-pros, moot point.
And I imagine if you find the 1950's pin-up look attractive then dressing the part at Goodwood probably has it's advantages too.
Doesn't stop either looking a bit ridiculous to outsiders though.
Is driving a 1950’s car dressed like you’re from the 1950’s even though you’re not any weirder than riding a bike dressed in lycra when you’re not pro?
I know: Yes, it is.
Some of these events definitely seems a bit strange to me.
Check out the "Railways in Wartime" WWII heritage event:
What did you do at the weekend? Oh, I dressed up as an SS soldier and stood guard over kids in period costume loaded in a train...
What’s even more weird is the battle re-enactment people.
If you want to play with swords, play with swords, don’t say your doing it to recreate history for other people’s benefit.
The word 'revival' still makes me shudder, mainly because I associate it with attending large scale evangelical type festivals with lots of happy clappying and people getting pushed over and thinking they're possessed by the holy spirit.
Oh, I dressed up as an SS soldier and stood guard over kids in period costume loaded in a train…
What could be more wholesome than that?
What did you do at the weekend? Oh, I dressed up as an SS soldier and stood guard over kids in period costume loaded in a train…
Battle reenactments would be a bit dull if only the winning side was represented.
As discussed on the other thread about bomber command, Dresden etc, the Nazis were shits, but leaving aside aspects of their ideology when it came down to fighting the war the allies were just as dirty. If that had been a Soviet soldier in 'liberated' East Germany as opposed to a Nazi in 'occupied'* France would that have been acceptable?
It's nothing to do with who the "winners" were. I think most people would instinctively find the idea of renacting SS soldiers with children on trains a bit jarring. It doesn't look like an educational event where they are exploring the full consequences of what that meant, it's just people enjoying the dressing up and their period vehicles.
Viewing any era or issue by only what is good or bad about it is counter productive.
All the things the OP comments on are a feature of modern society too and there's a few other nasty ones arisen since I'd wager (revenge pron, dark web, hacking and surveillance society, Trump, etc ).
There are things to commend those eras too and I like to think things like the Revival celebrate some of them including the skills and bravery of those who raced and maintained vehicles before modern health and safety, million pound budgets, throw away component culture, the style of the era (if that appeals), the fact a kid could ride a bike in the street without some **** in a 4x4 close passing them.
There is good and bad in all places and times. We can celebrate and enjoy the positive while not being blind to or condoning the negative.
There's a niche for everyone, just because you don't fit doesn't mean you need to go around telling folk how "weird" it is.
As for the SS guy and the kid on the train, I think that's all in your heads. Seriously. Look at the actual link FFS
If you want to play with swords, play with swords, don’t say your doing it to recreate history for other people’s benefit.
Why not? The whole sodding point is to give people an idea as to how people lived, and died, 200, 500, 1000 years ago, the clothing, weapons, armour, food and general life. Maybe you know everything there is to know about everything, but the majority of people don’t, and find such events fascinating. Here in Chippenham we’ve had both the Sealed Knot civil war re-enactors, and Viking/Saxon ones, because this area had major events in both areas of British history, and it never hurts to learn something new about where you live. For example, King Alfred the Great had a hunting lodge in Chippenham, and fought battles against the Viking invaders, before beating them into submission at the battle of Edington, about fifteen miles away, and creating the first unified kingdom in Britain, the Kingdom Of Wessex. It’s fun to be part of, and it’s fun to see how ordinary folk lived their lives in comparison to ours. Failure to understand how that works shows a remarkable level of ignorance, frankly.
As for the SS guy and the kid on the train, I think that’s all in your heads
What do you think is in people's heads?
That he is guarding a train full of kids and the hand wringing that goes with it. The photo has been taken entirely out of context.
It’s nothing to do with who the “winners” were. I think most people would instinctively find the idea of renacting SS soldiers with children on trains a bit jarring. It doesn’t look like an educational event where they are exploring the full consequences of what that meant, it’s just people enjoying the dressing up and their period vehicles.
And if you're going to do it, then do it properly. That "no smoking" sign is about as authentic as a "keep calm and carry on" mug.