[Closed] reverse typing update ( keylogger caught it!)

thats not reversed .....

BUT - are you using a wireless keyboard ? looks just like delayed via a shit interface or lag in your computer.

Which bit's which? I'm confused. And it hasn't got rhino backwards, just scrambled.

Typo 😆

Matt Black Rhino is a lovely name for a baby boy though. He'd grow up tough.

No just standard keypad . As for rhino not being reversed ..most of it is !

Maybe reversed is the wrong term ...backwards or ?

jumbled up would be how id describe it .

well apart from the "i" it has typed/ appeared right to left

apart from the “i” it has I have typed

That baby name page is rubbish. My son's name isn't in any of the lists but Ace, Luxury and Musaka are!!

We've been through this. What appears on the screen once you've stopped typing isn't telling you/us anything.

but the keylogger says I typed it correctly in the correct order ffs
maybe this time is not backwards/whatever but what appeared on the screen is not what I typed according to the logger

I really have no idea what that baby name link is related to . seem to get some weird link everytime I use postimage.org

Glad the keylogger ruled out the order they keys were pressed in.

I am not sure how you go from here to identifying the problem, but the fact your URL's come out screwy sounds like some sort of mallware to me.

thanks mate ..the URL business only happens with postimage.org and I've done fairly thorough checks re malware .

I've scanned with hitman pro, windows defender and malwarebytes

It seems to affect whole words, so the spacebar may somehow be triggering it. Where is the left arrow key relative to your hand when you press space? Does the keylogger detect presses on the arrow key?

I'm assuming the highlighting is yours?

It seems to affect whole words, so the spacebar may somehow be triggering it.

Yes. And, crucially perhaps, there are no spaces. It's as though hitting space doesn't send a space but rather puts the keyboard into some sort of odd mode, then hitting space again clears it.

If it weren't for the fact that it'd happened on another computer, I'd be leaning towards a faulty keyboard at this point. Driver issue maybe? Go to device manager, right-click on the keyboard entry and select Update Driver.

Failing that, I expect this will fix it:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-MK270-Wireless-Keyboard-Windows/dp/B00CL6353A/

Remind me again, what's the make and model of your laptop? Is your missus' the same?

see the keylog result below

Where's that then? The second image would suggest that it entered "ionhr" when you typed "helicopter," which is special indeed.

the left arrow key is miles away and the keylogger does show other buttons pressed . before I typed the word I had pressed a backspace and that's all

I had previously searched for matt black helicopter tape. I then opened another tab to do something else. After that I went back and removed the "helicopter" using backspace key and entered "rhino"

Want a boy to grow up tough? Call him "Sue".

Did you backspace and then use the spacebar?

i used backspace ( iirc) to erase the word "helicopter". keylogger shows backspace then rhino. no spacebar

So the backspace key was sticking down or the keyboard buffer was full of extra backspaces?

backspace key not stuck down ..........don't know about buffers ..probably just held it in to erase

Sorry Cougar missed your earlier question . My laptop is a dell inspiron 1 yr old ...missus's has a an 8 yr old toshiba L something or other. can't be keyboard as happens on both ...only common denominator is chrome /similar extensions

option to update driver is greyed out but details show it is 2006 driver so will search and try and find more recent but i do use dell support assist which thoroughly check the laptop and keeps everything updated

when I said the keylogger shows other buttons pressed I meant to say WILL show ..... it only showed backspace before Rhino but will ..(if pressed) show backwards and forward arrow presses

My laptop is a dell inspiron 1 yr old

Asset tag then, please.

only common denominator is chrome /similar extensions

Didn't you say you were going to try Firefox? How did that work out?

What extensions do you have installed?

not sure what asset tag is but will try and find!
Yes I used firefox and nothing went wrong but to be fair it has only gone funny once since we last conversed a few days ago and that was this morning when i was on chrome. Got loads of extensions can try and detail if wanted but as I said I disabled them all a few months ago and the problem continued that's why i wonder if they have to be uninstalled completely ( if indeed one is causing the problem)

not sure what asset tag is but will try and find!

It's Dell's version of a serial number. It'll be a sticker on the underside, a series of maybe 7 alphanumeric characters. Might say "service tag" or similar. It's probably visible in that support assistant thing too.

[url= https://i.postimg.cc/Y9Cr5N5S/IMG-20181221-140259325-HDR.jp g" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/Y9Cr5N5S/IMG-20181221-140259325-HDR.jp g"/> [/img][/url]

Oh, incognito mode should disable all extensions (I think). Try that?

Perfect. It's an Inspiron 5559.

Try this for starters,
https://downloads.dell.com/FOLDER05207121M/1/Inspiron5459_152.exe

Might be worth running this also,

https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/support/intel-driver-support-assistant.html

well I guess i can do but it may take a long while to prove .As I said ..I already disabled them so would that be any different?

Updating now and restarting

It can't really be the keyboard - if the computer really thought that's what you'd typed then the keylogger would say the same thing, wouldn't it?

That's a very good point.

i did use backspace before rhino ...changed the keylogger view to reveal

gotta go for a while thanks for your help back later on ..all suggestions welcome. cheers

It's because click lock is on. When you selected the word helicopter you probably double clicked it. On the track pad this is set to ClickLock. The cursor is locker to the pointer. When you delete the word with your backspace the click locked cursor remains to the left of the typed text. When you type the cursor moves back to the locked position so the letters appear backwards.

thanks I'll investigate that suggestion ... not home yet .If it were that surely wouldn't loads of people experience the same? I'll report back

don't think it is clicklock although it is set to on . I couldn't get it to do that to any words no matter how hard I try . On my laptop clicklock simply appears to be used to select and drag files/folders and has no effect on the movement of the cursor

I'm no expert ..far from it but I can't find any way to lock the cursor and even google doesn't mention it ..there is software that will do it though. Happy to be shown i'm wrong.

Just to confirm ..I am typing the words in the correct order ...it's happened twice again tonight and the keylogger confirmed it . the last word was "unsure" which ended up as "erusnu" with the cursor to the left of the "e" when I stopped typing.

I have no idea what any of this means but looking at your grammar and syntax in the original post I assume your computer was as confused as a normal human would be.

If you can't touch type, why not look at the screen and just type "qwerty" + space repeatedly until you see the problem happening?

thank you gunz .. at 54 yrs of age it's the first time in my life my grammar has been criticised . Merry Xmas and sorry I'm not perfect like you ...you are obviously very special and hope you feel good putting others down for a quick laugh .My typing skills are very poor and I'm not sure what syntax even means but won't bother looking it up . May I suggest in your will you ask for an enema so they can bury you in a matchbox. All your further comments will be ignored.
Now if anyone has any more helpful suggestions they'd be appreciated.
KCR ..seeing the problem happen won't help ..I know what happens but don't know why !

As mentioned a few posts up, clicklock is where I'd look for the solution. It's not something I'm familiar with so you need to look in the documentation for the laptop - this discussion may help.

You may also find you can make the problem repeatable by doing what you did on the helicopter/rhino text, ie, delete a word and then type (but doing it different ways, based on things in that link. Once it's repeatable you're well on the way to understanding it an avoiding it.

Thanks Grey ..I've tried all sorts of things/combinations to try and repeat but with no success . I'm not so bothered now though as I know it's not me having some weird dyslexic behaviour. I have actually been very unwell so when people started mentioning brain problems etc the other day and
some insisting that it was definitely me doing it i became slightly unsettled and wanted to confirm that it wasn't ....and the keylogger has reassured me .

Can the keylogger detect clicks?

I think it could be (in effect) a manual click lock - you're resting your hand oddly on the trackpad, thus 'clocking' the same place after every letter you type?

Kaiser, if you have been unwell and my sarcy comments (meant in jest) have upset you then I apologise.

Fair enough Gunz..appreciated and all forgotten now I was tired and not so good tbh .we all do and say silly things to wind others up
..in the past I've done more than fair share.Glad it didn't escalate.
YrreM samX!

Slab..I have software installed that now disables the touchpad asa you start typing .I've made numerous attempts to replicate to no avail. My money is on chrome extensions causing it tbh but don't want to uninstall them as they are numerous and regularly used. Probably wrong though!I shall prove by switching to Firefox regularly as it hasn't happened with that browser yet but tbh I haven't used it that much.

Kaiser - has the problem only ever happened in Chrome?

If so, any specific websites?

No specific websites unfortunately

Does it happen with the Vivaldi browser ?

Never used vivaldi but starting to use Firefox more and it's not occurred on there yet

Sorry if this has already been asked but are you typing on a laptop with a trackpad?  I sometimes find mine will make me type in the wrong place mid sentence but never all the way to going backwards.  However there are enough funny modes in trackpads that it might be possibleI

edit: I see that you are using a trackpad and have it set to disable as soon as you start typing.  See if you can just completely disable it

well it just happened again on chrome but this time I noticed what was happening. The cursor stays in the same place when typing so the letters move to the right when typing. It carries on like this until the cursor is moved.

sorry I meant the letters move to the left of the stuck cursor so if you type "dog" the d appears then "o" goes to it's left giving "od" then again typing "g" gives "god"

Rather than uninstalling the Chrome extensions you could just disable them and switch them back on when you want.

Something to do with language settings maybe? Do you have more than 1 language pack in use?

Might be switching to right-to-left typing, though how/why it would do this for one word and then switch back again without you noticing I've no idea. The default Windows shortcut to switch typing language is alt+left shift.

I think ossify has it Ctl + leftshift will change language to a left to right language. Also you should delete Chrome's autofill database (advanced settings>autofill>delete) as it will remember your backwards searches.

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well it just happened again on chrome but this time I noticed what was happening. The cursor stays in the same place when typing so the letters move to the right when typing. It carries on like this until the cursor is moved.

Are you accidentally hitting the insert button (probably rather than delete)?

I'm pretty sure it's none of your suggestions as most things have been tried and the keylogger would tell me if I was pressing wrong buttons which it appears I'm not. I have found a few further ideas which I'm checking out and will report back if successful. Thanks for all the help anyhow