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My friend has just returned their new contract of employment to their new employer.
It was a no brainer to make the decision (apparently) due to notably better overall package, shorter commute, more holidays and a company actively being active.
However, they are now worrying about handing in their notice - concerned about being seen as a 'traitor'.
Ultimately, each employee is but a number and you have got to look after yourself.
Leave with no aggro, thank current employer for the opportunity, etc, etc and do not look back would be my thought.
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However, they are now worrying about handing in their notice – concerned about being seen as a ‘traitor’.
Ultimately, each employee is but a number and you have got to look after yourself.
They shouldn't be worrying.
I have been made redundant twice - both times, I ended up being numbers on a decision matrix & shown the door. After the second time, I realised that the majority of companies show no loyalty or allegiance to their employees.
Your friend has to do what is right for themselves. Just get the notice handed in & move on.
Ultimately, each employee is but a number and you have got to look after yourself.
There you have said it.
Look after yourself rather then the employer and if the employer are as good as they shown themselves to be, then your friend would not have seek opportunity elsewhere.
I work for a bureaucratic organisation and we are just number.
It depends. I've been lucky and almost always had a really good, give-and-take, relationship with my employers. That can be easier in smaller (much smaller) organisations. I still feel a certain loyalty to some of them and we've remained friends after I've left. As friends they are also likely to understand that you want to move on and the reasons for it.
If it was of benefit to the company, they'd bin him without a second thought. Why does he think he owes them any loyalty?
If it was of benefit to the company, they’d bin him without a second thought. Why does he think he owes them any loyalty?
Maybe he understands his relationship with his current employer better than you do, and possibly they aren’t like you describe at all.
I know my employer is nothing like that (from experience) so I would feel like I owe them the same loyalty they have shown me.
Not all employers are dicks to their staff.
If the company acts poorly because of a resignation notice it says more about them than the leaver. If it were me I'd be telling them 'it's the commuting time, spending time with family' as the reason then it's not critical of anyone. And as long as you do a proper handover then there's not much else to do, that way you're not burning bridges.
If they behave like ****** after you hand in your notice then you know for sure how much of a good choice you made.
I've left two jobs in my career working life. The first I was relocating and when I went to tell my boss he offered to set me up with some of his contacts if the job didn't pan out (18 months later he contacted me to see if I fancied returning and I thought about it very hard), the other time I got headhunted and got nothing but best wishes on the promotion.
This is how I aspire to treat anyone who resigns where I am their manager. To remember that we cannot selfishly retain good people who have a desire to expand their horizons or improve their package, reduce their commute etc. To make their departure uncomfortable means that we would only shoot ourselves in the foot. People talk, social media and anonymous employer review sites mean that treating staff badly during notice periods will eventually bite back on employers.
Just to add... Of course it's hard to leave but good things ain't always easy!
After the second time, I realised that the majority of companies show no loyalty or allegiance to their employees.
This, certainly with bigger places.
A lot of what we think of as loyalty and all that is just 'Management skills 101'. There's no need to be a dick about it, but employment is a mutual agreement to exchange labour and skills for money. no more, no less.
The moment it's more financially advantageous for you not to work there, you won't.
I ultimately was made redundant from company I'd been with for nigh on 20 years. It had its ups and downs, it was a bittersweet moment when I left. I did have loyalty to them but companies change, and it wasn't what it had been. Previous to that, I'd left a company after 1 year (to join the 20 year one) as the opportunities and atmosphere was better. The first job lasted 5 weeks - went bust.
Post degree employment then has been 1 in liquidation, 1 departed (on good terms) and 1 redundancy (on good terms). I worked part time for a while but again parted on good terms. Since then been self employed.
I'd explain as best why you moved on, and depart (it seems) on good terms if it was simply a better option. Definitely not a traitor moment to me (although I can sympathise).
@nealglover who said anything about anyone being dicks? Companies exist to make money. If you're not helping them do that, they'll get rid, or go out of business. If they keep you on through hard times while they're losing money, it's not because they feel loyalty to you or feel sorry for you, it's because they believe it's in their best interests long term.
No one is being a dick, it's more about being aware of the reality of the situation - it's just business.
Depends where he is going to work. A lot of companies now put people on paid garden leave for their notice period if they are moving to a competitor so might be win win for him!
each employee is but a number
This, exactly this. If the tables were turned and they needed to lose him for whatever reason, then they wouldn't even blink. Size of the company is irrelevant. Large multi-national or small family business, both equally as ruthless if the situation requires it.
It is a slightly awkward thing to do, but he's got to do it.
Just give the usual crap about it being a really tough decision to make and having had a great time in the current company. This also means that he can return later if circumstances dictate for some reason.
The commute isn't something his current employer can do anything about, but everything else is, and if they were that bothered, they'd at least match if not outgun the other company.
I've been with my current employer for 22 years now but I'm under no illusions they'd get rid of me in a heartbeat if it didn't make financial sense to keep me (i.e. my salary is more than covered by my billed out rate). I certainly wouldn't stress about being seen as a traitor if I left (although I'm mostly still here because of a "better the devil you know" way of thinking).
I can only agree with everyone else here.
Loyalty to an employer is laudable, but misplaced. A company might well value its staff highly and offer great incentive packages, but at the end of the day it's still a business and whilst individual managers or coworkers might be sad about it you'd be out of the door in a heartbeat if it made good financial sense. If a company finds it has half the customers it did a year ago then they need to either scale down their staff to match demand or risk going bust, that's gonna happen no matter how much they like you.
Very few people are irreplaceable, and if you were irreplaceable then you'd be on sufficient a salary to ensure that you wouldn't want to leave in the first place (or of course, not, in which case that's their own fault).
Always leave on good terms just in case - the grass isn't always greener - but feel zero guilt about it.
Ultimately, each employee is but a number and you have got to look after yourself.
There you have said it.
Look after yourself rather then the employer and if the employer are as good as they shown themselves to be, then your friend would not have seek opportunity elsewhere.
We live in a self centered, selfish world.
The above nails it.
Drop it on his/her/it’s desk, notify HR, leave.
Simple really, when you think about it.
The corporate world is a tough environment. Saying that I am happy to receive dividends so suppose I am encouraging it.
It may be a business but I have a very long standing and loyal tenant in a rental property, I would look after him if he ever got made redundant and could not pay. Loyalty is mutual.