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I guy near me had one of those Darwin fish on the back of his van. Like the christian fish but with legs.
Someone ripped it off the van. No real damage caused but lots of stick stuff. No worries, he just got the same thing again and stuck it over the top.
It was ripped off again causing some damage to the paint and panel. Turns out it was a God bother-er who felt the sign was blasphemy.
Where do we stand on this then?
Van driver wrong for poking fun at other peoples beliefs
Badge nicker wrong for intolerance of others
Badge nicker wrong for damaging the van
Van driver wrong for not driving a VW T5?
I ****ing hate intolerant people.
String the ****ers up.
i'd paint it back on over the damaged bit.
The person who caused the damage is in the wrong - legally and biblically.
Its criminal damage.
Its against christian teachings
" turn the other cheek" "he who is without sin cast the first stone" "do as you would be done by"
God bother-er who felt the sign was blasphemy.
If it was covered in batter and accompanied some chips and peas, would said “god bother-er” just ordered some and paid his money and walked off scoffing?
Makes you think..🤔🤠🐟🐠🐠🐠🐠
Badge nicker wrong for intolerance of others
Badge nicker wrong for damaging the van
Both of these.
Given that tolerance of others regardless of their beliefs is a basic tenet of most religions then he should have known better.
A trumpet of the highest order.
deliberately provocative gesture provokes a reaction - meh
damage is the responsibility of the botherer
being a smart-arse is the responsibility of the van owner
Criminal damage to someone else’s property, in this case by one of the interminably ‘offended’ religious snowflakes.*
Simples.
* god is not great. Religion poisons everything.
12 pages.
Defacing someone else's property is clearly wrong whatever your 'logic' in doing so.
It amazes me that anyone outside of the US bible belt would take offence at evolution. Bizarre behaviour. Needs bombers in their shoes, or something.
I * hate intolerant people.
String the * up.
deliberately provocative gesture provokes a reaction
Exactly this.
They both appear to be bellends and they deserve each other 👍
god is not great. Religion poisons everything.
....as does a fanatical hatred of it.
Merry Christmas.
I’d turn the other cheek but I’m currently sitting on it.
Do you not mean happy midwinter solstice / feast PP?
Maybe a polite note through the door telling the neighbour where they can buy their own stickers - save them having to steel other people's ones.
Do you not mean happy midwinter solstice / feast PP?
Nope, I’m not a heathen after all.
Do you not mean happy midwinter solstice / feast PP?
He's trying not to discriminate against forumites on the wrong side of the equator. Its fine though - they'll all be in bed.
Its fine though – they’ll all be in bed.
Covered only in the lightest of sheets, with all the windows open.
tjagain
The person who caused the damage is in the wrong – legally and biblically.
Its criminal damage.
Its against christian teachings
” turn the other cheek” “he who is without sin cast the first stone” “do as you would be done by”
The Lord cannot be wrong.
This is blasphemous talk. Praise Him and obey Him.
heathen
Pagan surely? Which was also an organised Religion.
i still feel bad for drawng legs on a cristian fish in a service station car park years ago. in the dirt on the car i might add so no damage.
Its against christian teachings
” turn the other cheek” “he who is without sin cast the first stone” “do as you would be done by”
So, you quote the bible when it suits you TJ? Does that make you feeble minded now?
So, you quote the bible when it suits you TJ? Does that make you feeble minded now?
You wont find me defending TJ often, but he's quoting the apparent beliefs of the God Botherer, not his own views.
If it was covered in batter and accompanied some chips and peas
like this you mean.............
Where can I get some of those stickers?
How do we know the van man wasn't religious as well!
The Darwin fish thing sums me up, a Christian who believes in evolution.
Maybe the miscreant is saving them up for a baby's mobile!
Where can I get some of those stickers?
they are given away free on the backs of other people's cars
The Darwin fish thing sums me up, a Christian who believes in evolution.
funnily enough - it sums Darwin up quite well too
So based on some reactions on here, it would be sort-of OK for me to deface church posters? So if I removed/defaced the signs outside the evangelical church in Llangollen I went past on Sunday morning about people being fools if they don't believe and that marriage is only for one man plus one woman etc. then I would be criminally responsible but the church would be 'smart arses' and we'd both be 'bellends'?
Buy another sticker, set up camera. Wait for it to be removed and go to police with evidence.
Motion activated dashcam on the back window looking in the direction of the Darwin fish.
Then print a picture of said fish and stick it to the inside on the rear window with a message for the cretinous individual who keeps damaging the car.
Yeah, was wondering what kind of nutter would find a car sticker blasphemous.
The person who caused the damage is in the wrong – legally and biblically.
Its criminal damage.
Its against christian teachings
” turn the other cheek” “he who is without sin cast the first stone” “do as you would be done by”
Well it IS criminal damage but is it either biblical or Christian.
The old testament has the "eye for an eye" but if you are a New Testament type then it is all about turning the other cheek, yet "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". That last one sort of screws it up for me because I'd rather nobody did anything unto me, but I'm in favour of knocking people off mopeds if they are waving hammers around. You could say I'm conflicted (new phrase for confused).
Defacing someone else’s property is clearly wrong whatever your ‘logic’ in doing so.
Depends. I'd happily deface, destroy or burn someone else's property if it was displayed in such a deliberate way as to provoke me. It might be illegal but illegal does not equal wrong just like legal does not equal right.
If I was Darwin fish man I’d exact revenge by sneaking in to their house and turning all the crosses upside down so that all the religion leaks out or something. That’s how it works, right?
Whoa! Those fish symbols on the back mean there’s a god botherer inside?
I thought it meant the vehicle was limited to 45mph on the motorway.
deliberately provocative gesture provokes a reaction – meh
Which reaction are you talking about? The Darwin fish being added in response to all the christian fishes?
Depends. I’d happily deface, destroy or burn someone else’s property if it was displayed in such a deliberate way as to provoke me
What sort of things would meet that criteria?
12 pages.
I'll get the wafers.
Molgrips - merely using Christian teachings to show the hypocrisy of the god botherers
Know thine enemy. Is that another biblical one? If you want to argue about something its useful to know a little about it and I have read up a fair amount on quite a few religions.
That and I thought it miildly funny.
Nope, I’m not a heathen after all.
Is that Rag'n'Bone Man's follow up single?
merely using Christian teachings to show the hypocrisy of the god botherers
It’s this attitude that has led me to pray to God for a curse upon your television.
I’d happily deface, destroy or burn someone else’s property if it was displayed in such a deliberate way as to provoke me
This is probs what the God-botherer thought.
Whoa! Those fish symbols on the back mean there’s a god botherer inside?
I thought it meant the vehicle was limited to 45mph on the motorway.
In my experience it often means that they're likely to move in mysterious ways.
Below the belt PP - below the belt 😉
Below the belt PP – below the belt
only for the priests
I’d happily deface, destroy or burn someone else’s property if it was displayed in such a deliberate way as to provoke me
Again, what kind of nutter would think this was aimed at them?
Well we have one forumite outed, any other takers?
Well we have one forumite outed,
That's nearly as provocative as putting a sticker on a van...
I'm assuming you take delight in 'outing' anyone's personal business. I'm looking forward to the gay, Tory, estate agent, kayaker and trans outing threads you start....
The Van Man thought it was a little bit funny - in a pitying kind of way for the God bother-er.
I surprised no-one has yet picked up on the fact I mentioned it wasn't a T5 van. Has this been replaced by T6 smugness already?
T5 is a poverty van these days.
What sort of things would meet that criteria?
Nazi flags, racial slurs, sectarian nonsense.
Again, what kind of nutter would think this was aimed at them?
A religious nutter.
Driven by heathens no doubt
god is not great. Religion poisons everything.
….as does a fanatical hatred of it.
Simple derisive contempt, however... 😂
I have read up a fair amount on quite a few religions
And apparently not really understood any of it 😉
Depends. I’d happily deface, destroy or burn someone else’s property if it was displayed in such a deliberate way as to provoke me. It might be illegal but illegal does not equal wrong just like legal does not equal right.
Deranged. This is a troll, or internet hard man, right?
Most of the religions I have read up on start in deserts where you are likely to die if you eat the wrong stuff because it will be rotten. This is why you should avoid pork in some religions and shell fish can be a bit iffy in others. There is normally initially some stuff about being nice to people and hoping they will be nice to you.
The religions seem to start as basic life and health guides but then need some extra power to back them up. It is a bit like with kids when 'Because I said so' stops working you have to up the stakes to 'I will tell your mother/father' and ends up as 'Do this or God will strike you down in flames!'
Then once you have invoked the fear of God it is pretty much a free for all. The key thing is to be different to the other guys otherwise they get to control what 'God' says instead of you. Remember that they will be doing the same thing with their followers. At this point you have the choice of smiling and pretending they don't exist / need to gain wisdom or declare war on the blasphemers and spend the rest of humanity trying to kill them so they understand yours is the true benevolent God.
Deranged. This is a troll, or internet hard man, right?
Why? You think just because something is legal it makes it morally right? Likewise if something is illegal it is morally wrong?
It's far more complicated than that, WCA.
so isnt it attaching importance to symbols that is the wrong?
Its not like its a "danger minefield" sign
It’s clearly a minefield 🙂
[i]It’s far more complicated than that, WCA.[/i]
Are you sure? when you remove the rhetoric and 'belief' it seems pretty close to most things I have seen
Send 'em both on holiday together to Riyadh and see if it has a salutory effect on their behaviour.
Its not a fish its a vagina turned on its side , it was an ancient fertility symbol .
Something else the god botherers nicked .
its a vagina turned on its side
but with legs
Every one I've seen had legs ....
Every one I’ve seen had legs ….
I'm sure if you google hard enough
That’s nearly as provocative as putting a sticker on a van…
I’m assuming you take delight in ‘outing’ anyone’s personal business. I’m looking forward to the gay, Tory, estate agent, kayaker and trans outing threads you start….
Eh? What the hell are you jabbering on about?
I was referring to Rene59's rather ambiguous comment so if anything they appear to have outed themselves as an easily offended nutter that would destroy property if "provoked".
Peoples personal lives are none of my concern, I'd like to think I'm more tolerant than most on here (including some of the ones that like to think they shit rainbows) and would never 'out' someone. Well, not until they make their personal business someone else's business (like, for example, vandalising their property, harassment or hate speech) and then they deserve what they get.
Hope that clarifies.
I might be a nutter but I'm not easily offended. I was just pointing out that Cougar's statement that
Defacing someone else’s property is clearly wrong whatever your ‘logic’ in doing so.
isn't true. There could be situations where it is fine. Eg someone playing sectarian music very loudly in the garden next door. Perfectly acceptable to destroy their property (music player). It might be illegal to do so, but it wouldn't be wrong. Someone sticking disgusting racist posters up on their windows. Perfectly acceptable to put a brick through it, it would get you into trouble with the law but it wouldn't be wrong.
Perfectly acceptable to destroy their property (music player). It might be illegal to do so, but it wouldn’t be wrong. Someone sticking disgusting racist posters up on their windows. Perfectly acceptable to put a brick through it, it would get you into trouble with the law but it would be right.
Only if you decide to ignore any of the other options available to changing that behaviour. Going straight to violence seems to be a fairly extreme position.
Clearly you've never lived next door to such people.
You think just because something is legal it makes it morally right? Likewise if something is illegal it is morally wrong?
Criminal Damage is both illegal and morally wrong.
What was your point again?
Legal and moral are not synonymous.
They both appear to be bellends and they deserve each other
Nope, only one of them is. I’ve seen plenty of cars with Darwin fish on, none appear to have been defaced by some self-righteous knob.
Now, if someone had stuck a Darwin fish on the back of the touchy Christian’s car, he might well be within his rights to get pissy with it, and seek to strike the perpetrator down with furious anger.
But surely their ‘god’ thing would do that for them, no? 🤔
But surely their ‘god’ thing would do that for them, no?
Sadly, that’s more of an Old Testament deal.
Which is a pity as I love a good smiting....I have a list and everything.
Nowadays, we just piss about with peoples Televisions in the middle of the night on account of it being more mysterious and that.
🙂
Nowadays, we just piss about with peoples Televisions in the middle of the night on account of it being more mysterious and that.
Mind praying for my neighbours stereo to clap out? I won't be offended if you do.
Rene, I did caveat my statement. TBH going for the nuclear option straight away is rather extreme but then I'd happily smash every drum and flute in the west of Scotland if it meant a bit of peace. Still, comes under hate speech so easy to deal with in ways that won't get yourself in front of a beak.
But surely their ‘god’ thing would do that for them, no?
Well that's the problem isn't it? I mean, he's jealous but merciful.
Is now the appropriate time for a meme?
