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Edinburgh goes mental!?! Oh **** hope it's not like the riots!!
No - 56%
"I still won as we have more independence than before" - 100%
I'm afraid it will be Yes 60%.
TiRed - Member
N 54%
Y 46%Kinnock effect - in the cold light of the ballot box, voters will not be able to bring themselves to vote for financial meltdown for the sake of a thistle on a passport.
^ this.
I said No then, and I mean it now.
I'd like to offer up my support for anyone who actually goes out to vote rather than sit in and do nothing/abstain.
It's a vote and however you choose to use, use it wisely.
50.5/49.5 to no, followed by riots and calls for recounts.... and then Scotland turns into Northern Ireland during the troubles.
To quote a shite sci fi films tagline..
"whoever wins, we lose!"
Tom beat me too it, but something like:
No: 50.1
Yes: 49.9
or vice versa.
N50.9% Y49.1% followed next year by a Tory/UKIP coalition in Westminster followed by EU in/out referendum ending with a new Scottish independence referendum N25% Y75%.
Jamba, OR point, spastic referring to the wildly flailing, uncontrollable cathartic purge of "IDENTITY" rather rather a slur.
Good word appropriated by bullies.
Anyway, yes.
"Dinnae NO me ya fud" *smack*
"Youre not singing yes anymoooore" *smack*
"Where's the smack gone?" *smack*
There won't be an in/out EU referendum.
N50.9% Y49.1% followed next year by a Tory/UKIP coalition in Westminster followed by EU in/out referendum
It would be a huge irony if Scotland voted no to taking control over it's own affairs only for the UK to then vote yes.
and then Scotland turns into Northern Ireland during the troubles.
it is getting a bit like that, a division into them's and us's, murals, flags, it's really unpleasant. Hopefully all over soon though.
The issue will fester on regardless of the result,
N 54%
Y 46%Kinnock effect - in the cold light of the ballot box, voters will not be able to bring themselves to vote for financial meltdown for the sake of a thistle on a passport.
+1
It would be a huge irony if Scotland voted no to taking control over it's own affairs only for the UK to then vote yes.
Salmond makes fek all sense, wanting independance, keep the pound and lose all fiscal control over it, and join the EU without a veto. WTF?
and then Scotland turns into Northern Ireland during the troubles.it is getting a bit like that, a division into them's and us's, murals, flags, it's really unpleasant. Hopefully all over soon though.
No it's not, not even close.
http://www.spf.org.uk/2014/09/spf-media-release-independence-referendum-2/
An independent Scotland will **** Northern Ireland up though. So even if the Scot's don't start car bombing each other, you can be sure some of the Irish will. It will throw up a hole host of political problems over there.
If my work colleagues (Aberdeen oil & gas) are anything to go by it will be a resounding yes 🙁
@hairyscary, I'm surprised about that, would have thought general consensus in O&G is for retained UK structure - devil they know and all that.. and a likely rise in income tax for an independent Alba..
It's all bravado. They'll bottle it at the last minute. Just like we did with the PR vote. 63% No.
Salmond makes fek all sense, wanting independance, keep the pound and lose all fiscal control over it, and join the EU without a veto. WTF?
@thisisnot - but you see he is "in charge", that's why it makes sense to him
@hairyscary, I'm surprised about that, would have thought general consensus in O&G is for retained UK structure - devil they know and all that.. and a likely rise in income tax for an independent Alba..
Aberdeen is amost entirly populated by 'ex-pats' from England, all regustered as .ltd companies, and Salmond promised a 3p drop in corperation tax.
Assuming they're all paying about 30% tax, that's a 5% pay rise on already very good sallaries. I'd vote for the independance of a country I was only going to be living in short term on that basis too!
I think it's going to be close but
Yes: 45%
No: 55%
but you never know.
I think I've decided for myself anyway, or maybe...
The PR referendum was a dead duck from the moment it was born. This one isn't.
Good luck to Scotland. I'm not sure it's the right decision but a yes vote will bring carnage and change both of which are in short supply. It will shake westminster to its core and there will be knock on effects throughout Europe. The Catalans are aready kicking off.
The PR referendum was a dead duck from the moment it was born. This one isn't.
Agreed although the PR referendum was dead as it wasn't a referendum for actual PR, twas a "grubby little compromise" as correctly described by Clegg some years before.
Last week Murdoch said Salmond had private polling at Yes 54%, No 46%.
I'll go with that.
I reckon 57% for the no vote.
A lot of undecided's seem to be saying that to avoid getting a lecture on why they should vote yes
A lot of undecided's seem to be saying that to avoid getting a lecture on why they should vote yes
I know a few of those.
No idea how the vote will go in all honesty.
Id like it to be a yes... But even if its a no.. Westminster has been awakened to the fact that things cannot continue on the same path..
Friday will be the start of something different..
I'm going to predict it using something all the home nations have in common- football
I think the most likely outcome is this:
Geoff Hurst scores by promising devolution and money, but it never crosses the line. Scottish people never shut up about it for the next 50 years, while complaining that English people never shut up about it.
But you never know, it might be more like this:
In which case, I'll blame Colin Hendry. Useless.
Right, last minute punt before crosses get crossed.
59% yes 41% No
Yes: 62%
I have no tattos. If Scotland stays Im going to get a small Union Jack tattoo. If they go I'll move on. 🙁
I love Scotland but like a beautiful woman if she wants to leave you what can you do?
I predict Yes: and all the politicians promises strangely don't come true.
I predict No: and all the politicians promises strangely don't come true.
I predict Yes: and there are a lot of pissed people in both senses of the word.
I predict No: and there are a lot of pissed people in both senses of the word.
I predict Yes: and there is great deal of instability and resentment.
I predict No: and there is great deal of instability and resentment.
So same result both ways. Looking at this "after" the event this whole vote thing was a really divisive, negative idea. I hope we can be carry on our culture of agreeing to disagree what ever the result.
No 66.54%
54:46 to the No.
I also predict tears before bedtime.
Well that's me back from doing my little bit to save the Union. Nice to see a steady stream of folk turning out.
I predict a lot of very unhappy people.
Yes, and that's going to make for a united society that works together to get stuff done.
Oh wait..
In line with some of the economic forecasting we've seen, I'm going for 64 no, 87 yes.
48 Y
52 N
Project Fear this last week has turned it.
Heartbreaking.
It's a vote and however you choose to use, use it wisely.
Ah you can't say that, cos the Queen said it and she's only got powers through an accident of birth so it's wrong!
I thin k tinas is on the money with aberdeen .
Almost all the staff engineers i know are no' , almost hte contractors i know are yes'
All the drill crew members i know are yes' but i think thats a patriotism thing more than a well informed decision ill be honest.
All the foreigners ( folks from all over the world ive met in the last few months on rigs) contrary to the yes campaigns facebook bombardment ( since when did you make your choice based on what you read on facebook btw) i know reckon we would be mental to break away.
All the 16-18 year olds at local schools were polled in a dummy ballot and the result was a high no
I reckon for 62/30/quite a few spoiled.
hora - MemberI love Scotland but like a beautiful woman if she wants to leave you what can you do?
Get the national media to run biased stories telling her to stay, and get all your mates to go around and tell her how if she leaves, she'll end up alone and penniless, living in a cardboard box. Also tell her that if she decides to move in with someone else, she won't be allowed to.
Get the national media to run biased stories telling her to stay, and get all your mates to go around and tell her how if she leaves, she'll end up alone and penniless, living in a cardboard box. Also tell her that if she decides to move in with someone else, she won't be allowed to.
On the head!
The best analogy I've heard so far is that of a couple on the brink, she's complaining that she's never listened to, while He's just shouting that she won't get a penny in any divorce.
The "Better together" campaign had the right title, but that's where it ended unfortunately.
I predict 56/44 in favour of independence...
The best analogy I've heard so far is that of a couple on the brink, she's complaining that she's never listened to, while He's just shouting that she won't get a penny in any divorce.
This is really poor.
Yes 58.3% 🙂
I think surrounded by hills was the first to predict the result correctly.
are you sending him his Tea cake then?


