[Closed] Red Riding

i lost interest after 45 mins

Loved it. Was really looking forward to it after reading a preview and it didn't disappoint. Shagging, rain, biege, torture, death, brown Vauxhall Vivas, serial killers, bent cops, Wakey. What more do you want. Best bit of TV this side of Extreme Fishing with Robson Greene.
Can't wait for next week's episode as the stories are connected and its based around the Ripper.

Wife and I both fell asleep in the final 20 minutes. Is it repeated this week?

let me feeling dizzy and confused......but in a good way.
but too much smoooooooooooooooke.

Jesus, yeah, forgot about everyone smoking....LOTS.

Surfr, I would have thought it would be repeated. If not C4 OD online.

Blimey, I'm not venturing to the north. Looks terrifying!

Loved it. Can't wait for the next one. Some really subtle stuff in there too, like the journalist who gets topped, making his last exit on camera under a sign saying " Way Out".

Wasn't it supposed to be set in 1974? So why was he driving a 1975 Vauxhall?

I thought it was alright, didn't really have me on the edge of my seat though.

Paddy Constantine in it next week. Go and rent 'A Room for Romeo Brass' first before you watch the 2nd installment of Red Riding.

Paddy Constantine in it next week. Go and rent 'A Room for Romeo Brass' first before you watch the 2nd installment of Red Riding.

Loved it!
Thought it looked amazing and the acting was superb.
Looking forward to the rest of the series.

Tried to watch it but mrswors was jabbering away for about half an hour so lost waht was going on.

Shagging, rain, biege, torture, death, brown Vauxhall Vivas, serial killers, bent cops, Wakey.

Haven't seen Red Riding yet but regarding smoking tabs in filams has anyone seem Good Night, and Good Luck. Crumbs.

Wife and I both fell asleep in the final 20 minutes. Is it repeated this week?

I recorded it on my PVR. Can make you a DVD if you like ? It didn't hold my attention

[i]"This is the North! We do what we want!"[/i]

Terrifying - like [i]Life on Mars[/i] directed by David Lynch.

but too much smoooooooooooooooke.

yes, it's funny, after being terrorised by smokists in public places for the past 4 decades, it's amazing how quickly I've come to forget what it was like, and to think of smoking as unusual

lol @ wors

you missed out brown y fronts!

Damn right noteeth. That copper was pure evil. Dude looked like a ****in' weasel. Superbly acted. The evil twin of life on mars as one review put it.

Paddy Constantine is a class act, not seen A Room for Romeo Brass yet but another Shane Meadows film I rate highly is Dead Man's Shoes. That is truly frightening.

Am not a happy girlie 🙁

Was expecting to spend a couple of hours drooling over David Morrissey and he only made a brief appearance 😥

Polite request - if any girlies read this, could they please start up a Friday Sexy Bloke thread with lots of pics of him. Thank you!

Seriously though, it was good but grim.

Continues tonight!

I sense looming darkness.

Enjoyed the first one. Grim though

Another enjoyable one. But is it only me having trouble in hearing/understanding what some of them are saying? Almost seemed a bit like NYPD Blue for poor sound quality.

it's the fick norvern acsents, reminds me of watching auf weidersein pet and having to turn the sound up.

best bit of telly for a long time.

shit that was nasty!

Does it get repeated? I've lost the plot a little!

I've not seen this weeks yet, however after last weeks I find myself agreeing with this comment on the telegraph website review:
[i]Mr Walton points out that this production relies upon a paradox created by the juxtaposition of history and speculation. In such a ploy, the authenticity of the film direction invites the viewers to open their minds to the speculations made by the author. Unfortunately, as far as South Yorkshire in 1974 is concerned, authenticity requires more than just brown interiors and grey exteriors. For example, portraying villages such as Fitzwilliam as a bomb site in which feral children vanadalise property whilst a resident looks on passively, complete with flat cap and whippet, is such a grotesquely innacurate cliche that I am left with no sense whatsoever of historical accuracy, and therefore no motivation to take any part of the drama seriously. As someone who actually lived in that area in 1974, I confess to being somewhat irritated by pundits who, in their ignorance, are only too willing to believe the Third World shanty town depiction. And yet I am only just scratching the surface regarding the cliched indulgence that this production substitutes for supposed historical accuracy. Take it from me, this is not a new TV genre. Trash has been around for a long time and no amount of artistic talent can excuse such low bigotry. [/i]

but TV drama isn't real. reality is slow and boring and not a lot happens. drama is 'drama'.
mood, feelings and emotions are conveyed using whatever artifice the director and crew want to use. if that happens to be a grim run-down location with burnt out cars and crack whores so what if it isn't historically accurate.

the review needs to get his priorities right

As someone who actually lived in that area in 1974

For example, portraying villages such as Fitzwilliam as a bomb site in which feral children vanadalise property whilst a resident looks on passively, complete with flat cap and whippet, is such a grotesquely innacurate cliche that I am left with no sense whatsoever of historical accuracy,

Well I grew up in 70's B'ham and bomb sites were still common. There was always kids mucking about on them and usually a fire or two.
I found that it very authentically reproduced the 70's of my childhood and I'd wager most working class kids' childhoods, but that's probably what the reviewer doesn't understand.

Oh all right then, it was brilliant, whatever....

Although I have to admit I found myself laughing out loud when the first episode reached the point were Abu Grahib is recreated in the police cells, hoods, hoses and all!

Although I have to admit I found myself laughing out loud when the first episode reached the point were Abu Grahib is recreated in the police cells, hoods, hoses and all!

Yeah that was a bit much. Our forces in Iraq have never reached the levels of savagery cultivated by 70's police forces. If you're not sure what I'm alluding to, just delve into what you can find out about the West Midlands Serious Crimes Squad for instance.

Why just allude? Links?

[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/west-midlands-serious-crime-squad-police-unit-to-blame-for-dozens-more-injustices-1120219.html ]Ok, here's one link but there's lots more, just Google[/url]

Look out for anything about the Birmingham Six or the Bridgewater Four. Torture, coercion, wrongful arrests, intimidation. You'll find it all in there. I'm sure the WMSCS, weren't alone in their methods either.

Oh all right then, it was brilliant, whatever....

it was just my opinion that differs from yours and the reviewers (with his own personal bone top pick), just because you disagree with me doesn't make you wrong or me right. or are we not allowed to disagree?

As someone who actually lived in that area in 1974, I confess to being somewhat irritated by pundits who, in their ignorance, are only too willing to believe the Third World shanty town depiction.

I didn't see any shanty towns in the 1974 episode, I saw victorian terraces and 1970s semis. I'd be more inclined to take that review seriously if he hadn't said South Yorkshire when he meant West Yorkshire in the previous paragraph.

David Peace (whose books this is based on) is from Wakefield and grew up there in the 70s and 80s so it isn't all southern bias or anything. All his books mix reality and fiction and the subject matter of police corruption and serial killers doesn't exactly lend itself to sunny shots of the genteel side of Leeds (and besides which they have a problem filming something set in the 70s when you can't point a camera in any direction without seeing glass and steel apartments and office blocks these days).

[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/may/10/fiction ]http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/may/10/fiction[/url]

I did get slightly fed up of seeing the main character's car on a deserted windswept moorland road though - I know they can't show the M1 or M62 as it's full of modern cars and the director probably wanted some sort of visual metaphor like the train at the start of Get Carter, but I did get a bit bored of it - there ain't no moors between Leeds and Wakefield, just motorways and houses.

They also (in last night's film) had Sutcliffe being nicked by an alert beat copper from the West Yorks force - in fact he was nicked by an alert beat copper in South Yorks on his first trip to Sheffield. Reality actually says even more about the West Yorks force's incompetence, even if it was just the Sunderland tapes that set them on the wrong path, rather than corruption.

[url] http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-%26-entertainment/fears-grow-that-red-riding-may-have-been-shit-200903101632/ ][/url]

Great stuff, again - Paddy Considine was excellent.

But could anything [i]ever[/i] match [url=

of Darkness[/i][/url]?

@ Mr Smith - of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, sometimes this forum just makes me weary, no matter what you post someone always feels obliged tell you that you are wrong....

That Daily Mash article is class 😀

[i]I am left with no sense whatsoever of historical accuracy, and therefore no motivation to take any part of the drama seriously[/i]

Perhaps David Lynch should have filmed [i]Twin Peaks[/i] as if it were a boring little logging town, where very little happens? It's [i]drama[/i], fer ****'s sake. Mood is all.

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Sterling acting all round, too.

More like a melodrama.

"David Peace (whose books this is based on) is from Wakefield and grew up there in the 70s and 80s " David was a school friend of mine and his Mum and Dad were friend's with mine i read the book when it came out and scandalised Ossett (where he grew up). Having read the book and known the background for myself i could not achive enouth distance to watch the ficton .

ChrisS, One must assume that you're incredibly intelligent by agreeing with the Telegraph review.

Did they have PVC windows and doors in 1980? I'm sure that vicar blokes house had them.

I don't remember everything being so brown, that viva could have at least been lemon yellow with a black vinyl room, not seen anyone in red 4" stacked heeled with gold stars on (I had some, blame bowie). Punk rock saved me from a life multi coloured tank tops and 30" wafters. Man I was in me prome then.
Good good program, I remember the ripper stuff really well as everyone got questioned at work, some thing to do £ note serial numbers I think, scary times. Brilliant.
Parts of Ossett really are to rough for the worst shots of the program.

@ gizzardman - okay I'll bite.... WTF is that supposed to mean?

really good, to be fair you needed to watch the first to get the ending of the second, best thing on TV really dark and twisted!

it was set in 1974?!?

I thought it was live from Wigan!

First episode was 1974 second episode 1980. What's the reference with Ossett was it filmed there? Just curious as I'm from there. 😆

[i]Jesus, yeah, forgot about everyone smoking....LOTS.[/i]

Yep it was horrendous. Reminded me of last time I was down in the smoke with just about everyone walking along Liverpool street at 8:30am with a fag in their mouth. Glad it's not like that up North anymore.

Concludes tonight!

Caught up with the second episode the other day, found it a bit annoying.

Couldn't really believe the female police officer would go off with the priest to have an abortion within minutes of meeting him. Thought that the police chap sent in to investigate as he was supposed to be incorruptible turning out to have had an affair was just frustrating. Didn't understand why the home office etc just abandoned the chap investigating simply because he'd had an affair and despite his house having been burnt down and lot's of evidence of corruption. Don't understand why the investigation into the shooting in the first episode wasn't just restarted after a decent interval for the chap to recover from his wife's miscarriage.

Can't decide whether to bother with tonight's, will probably end up watching it in the hope that all the baddies get their comeuppance in a suitable dramatic manner, however the trailer made it look like the plot was going to be exactly the same as the previous two episodes.

Ho hum.

And the STW verdict is?

liked it - it all came together and made episode 1 make more sense

would like to watch it all again now, think it will benefit from a 2nd watch - but I think I might read the books first

Aha.....

VERY nasty indeed 🙁

had me gripped even if it was the weakest episode of the 3 (IMHO)
would like to have seen the whole corrupt police house of cards come crashing down though

Hooray for the fat solicitor!!

It was good. Dark and depressing though.

Great photography.

It was like [i]The Bill[/i] crossed with [i]Blue Velvet[/i].

Quality programme!
I wish it had been on consecutive nights though, rather than a week apart as it took me a while in each case, to get back into it and remember what had gone on before and who was who.

Oh, yeah, the ad-breaks really p!$$ me off as well and ruin the tension and flow.
I don't watch much TV and (for this very reason)even less independant TV.

Those gripes aside, the show itself was superb. 😀