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Played a couple of hours tonight, graphically it's amazing but it hasn't gripped me yet. Looks like a train robbery is imminent, I'll give it another few hours tomorrow


 
Posted : 26/10/2018 10:30 pm
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It does feel a bit slow paced with a fair bit of trotting along with not much going on so far,but hopefully it’ll get better.

Once you're through the main introduction missions there's loads going on much like the first characters lead their lives around you waving you down or shouting for help. Then there's the added details you need to pay attention eating, clothing, washing and looking after your horse.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 8:36 am
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What is everyone playing it on? Do I need an xbox X or will an S do?


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 9:06 am
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What is everyone playing it on? Do I need an xbox X or will an S do?

PS4 Pro 😉


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 9:13 am
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S will do.

PS4 Pro for me.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 9:29 am
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The human cost of creating and releasing RDR2 to schedule.

Be interesting to see how this plays out, not that I suspect we’ll hear much more than RS would like us to hear

I was about to post this, one of my Twitter feeds has been full of stuff about the crunch for this game. I appreciate many don't care but it's not good at all.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:07 am
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I was about to post this, one of my Twitter feeds has been full of stuff about the crunch for this game. I appreciate many don’t care but it’s not good at all.

It is a bit rubbish but many of products come with such back stories, the employer is ultimately is responsible.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:15 am
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It is a bit rubbish but many of products come with such back stories, the employer is ultimately is responsible.

Your choice to reward the employer for his behaviour.  #youtoo


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 2:08 pm
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What's everyone's verdict then?

I'm now out of the intro section and into chapter 2, I can't see it holding my attention for much longer, too slow paced, controls are clumsy.

Graphically and technically its an 11 out of 10,but I'm not sure about the gameplay, perhaps it will get better.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 2:27 pm
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Your choice to reward the employer for his behaviour.  #youtoo

So tell me what other items do you boycott?

I'm enjoying it Julian it's not fast paced but it's not meant to be it's pretty much a RPG not just a shoot em up. There's loads to do in the background.

I'm getting use to the controls already.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 3:18 pm
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I'm still on PS3, so idly looking at PS4+RDR2 bundles.

Do I need to spend the extra ton for the Pro?  I'm only going to be playing RDR2 , and I'll get a 2nd hand copy of GTAV, and that's it.

Or I'll just wait for it to get ported to Switch 😉


 
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Do I need to spend the extra ton for the Pro?  I’m only going to be playing RDR2 , and I’ll get a 2nd hand copy of GTAV, and that’s it.

Nah. Buy a second hand PS4 and you're good.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 3:32 pm
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it’s pretty much a RPG not just a shoot em up.

Yeah that sums it up pretty well, I have never really liked rpg's


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 3:35 pm
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As Jamie says you'll be good with a PS4 although my nephew tells me that he seen some frame rate issues into the big city but not to the point of it being unplayable.

Could be why then Julian.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 4:41 pm
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i wish the main character walked a bit faster


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 4:49 pm
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He can run or use your horse.


 
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What’s everyone’s verdict then?

Ive only just managed to get to chapter 2. Chapter 1  was okay, but felt very restrictive and linear, you’re not really in control, you press X when they say press X and he does stuff, few if any of the other controls work... but it’s just a long training mission coupled with the back story.

Once we made camp and I was free to roam it was like a polished RDR1 which was nice, I hunted for a bit, got into a rumble with a couple of O’Driscals and had a shave.

Its really too early to say, but I’m here and Miss Jay is watching Katie Morag so I might as well chip in.

Things I like:

Graphics.

The environment, it’s basically teeming with life.

Horse riding.

shooting.

Things that will probably end up annoying me.

Seems you can only carry a small amount of stuff, which is a lot more realistic than most games, it’s not really possible for 1 man to carry 9 pistols, 4 shotguns, 12 rifles, 12 petrol bombs, a collection of knives, 50 assorted animal pelts, 500 rounds of ammo, etc etc etc, but I get the feeling that you’re pretty buggered without a horse in this and I’m told once they die, they’re dead so you’ll no doubt spend a long time walking trying to replace it.

How slow he moves on foot, yeah you can run (not in camp which is annoying) but it doesn’t last long, see above, no horse, buggered.

Its very high maintenance, already in one mission I’ve disccoved:

You need to wear weather correct clothing.

You need to wash your horse.

You need to shave.

You need to eat, but just to fix bullet holes, but not to starve.

You need to support the camp and in a few ways.

And it doesn’t seem that these are little details you can do if you wish like in GTA games, you actually need to do them or bad things happen.

Im looking forward to playing again later when Miss Jay goes to bed, but I’m interested to see how much you can do your own thing in between mission of weather you’re tied close to the camp, Ive read you cross the map with your camp as the story progresses, I’m not sure how free you are until it’s done.


 
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You need to wear weather correct clothing.

You need to wash your horse.

You need to shave.

You need to eat, but just to fix bullet holes, but not to starve.

You need to support the camp and in a few ways.

Please tell me that's wrong and I don't have to do all that rubbish.....


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 6:29 pm
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Please tell me that’s wrong and I don’t have to do all that rubbish…..

It's a RPG how you look affects how people react to you.

I get the feeling that you’re pretty buggered without a horse in this and I’m told once they die, they’re dead so you’ll no doubt spend a long time walking trying to replace it.

I've 3 horses already, I've unlocked some stagecoach points and you can always climb on the train. It'll be an inconvenience but not a hassle.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 6:32 pm
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It’s a RPG how you look affects how people react to you.

Oh no, didn't realise it was that much of an rpg. How to ruin a great graphics engine and world!

Oh well,will play some more , and give it a fair go,but I don't think it's for me


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 6:44 pm
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How to ruin a great graphics engine and world!

🤔


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 7:36 pm
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Grabbed another hour or two this evening.

I wouldn’t worry about the RPG element, unless you’re on a mission it didn’t seems to matter.

Dropped a Buffalo and a coupe of Deer (love a bit of virtual hunting). Murdered a stranger to rob him, had to drop a witness too, sorry pal.

Rode into town with Uncle and some Women from the Camp, bar fight, treated myself to a new hat with the money I stole from the strangers I murdered. Trying to work out how to wash up before Mrs Jay came home and I started dinner.

I think you need to slow down and enjoy it, it’s not GTA on horses.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 9:02 pm
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So tell me what other items do you boycott?

None that I moan about after buying.

I won’t buy Bonti or Trek post Lance. I try not to buy Spesh. I tend to buy tech only when the old stuff stops working. The rest I tend to think “I bought it, so I have to accept I’m ok with it.” Or I dont buy it. But I don’t buy lots of stuff. Not owned a car for 15 years.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 9:10 pm
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So how does the PS4 Slim compare to the pro.... Winter is coming and I might need something to get into....

I saw the 2nd hand comments but the slim plus 2-3 games is close enough to the used prices to appreciate warranty

TV is currently 720 but max 1080 for  couple of years


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 9:13 pm
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So how does the PS4 Slim compare to the pro…. Winter is coming and I might need something to get into….

Slim will be fine especially with your TV.

Best mission so far is drinking with Lenny.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 9:26 pm
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Best mission so far is drinking with Lenny.

Is it as much fun as arguing with a mod?


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 9:27 pm
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No idea.


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:04 pm
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you sure?


 
Posted : 27/10/2018 10:05 pm
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PS4 Pro / One X is for 4K gaming. No point unless you have a 4K TV or are planning on getting one.


 
Posted : 28/10/2018 12:02 pm
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PS4 Pro / One X is for 4K gaming. No point unless you have a 4K TV or are planning on getting one.

Thats not entirely correct in the case of the one x. Some games (eg Forza horizon 4) on the one x are now offering either 4k at 30fps or 1080p at 60fps. So even if you don't have a 4k TV it could still be worth getting one if you value a higher frame rate.


 
Posted : 28/10/2018 12:27 pm
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4K TV or are planning on getting one.

Ordered one this am. 😳


 
Posted : 28/10/2018 1:29 pm
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So even if you don’t have a 4k TV it could still be worth getting one if you value a higher frame rate.

Ah, I didn't know that. TBH though, if I've been ragging around in an X class and haven't blinked in the last three minutes, I'm not overly looking at frame rates...


 
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PS4 here.

not really finding it that engaging tbh, spent most of yesterday hunting for a frickin grizzly that never showed up!! i heard that their pelt is worth a few bob...

in the end i just thought sod it, crack on with a few missions then i got into some awesome gameplay - the jail break one was great fun! and in the saloon with Lenny!  so i do think its gonna grip me eventually, probably when i unlock the ability to fast travel rather than endless galloping about.

I am a bit disappointed that whenever i try and rob people on the highway i seem to come worse off? there appears to be no way of acting inappropriately to women either! i can antagonise men, and shoot them in the face but theres no sexy time! even the lady in the bathhouse doesn't do 'extras'.. i also have millions on bounty hunters on my case!


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 8:30 am
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Its very high maintenance, already in one mission I’ve disccoved:

You need to wear weather correct clothing.

You need to wash your horse.

You need to shave.

You need to eat, but just to fix bullet holes, but not to starve.

You need to support the camp and in a few ways.

I flinched when i heard about all this too, but so far in aint so bad (started talking like Arthur..) none of that stuff takes any time really, keep fresh clobber on your horse, walk your horse through water, a clean shave lasts for ages, eating is just like pressing a health boost in a any game and supporting the camp unlocks cool perks.


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 8:39 am
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i got on a train the other day, was cool, you uncover loads of map. i have seen that there are some tips on how to move a bit better, chaging the controls so you toggle on run or so rather than button bashing.

I'm struggling with the controls actually. i've shot people without wanting too , fist fights have seemed a little bash buttons and hope and so on. i need to basically ignore my job and chidlren and FOCUS


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 8:59 am
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I don't play many games

I'm still in training phase - Trian robbery about to happen.

I'm enjoying it so far - very atmospheric


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 9:17 am
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not really finding it that engaging tbh, spent most of yesterday hunting for a frickin grizzly that never showed up!! i heard that their pelt is worth a few bob…

Did you use the tracking skills and bear bait?


 
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I flinched when i heard about all this too, but so far in aint so bad (started talking like Arthur..) none of that stuff takes any time really, keep fresh clobber on your horse, walk your horse through water, a clean shave lasts for ages, eating is just like pressing a health boost in a any game and supporting the camp unlocks cool perks.

Yeah, it's not really an issue is it?

I think I'm a bit in love with it, I just wish I had more than the odd hour here and there to play it.

I don't think it'll be universally loved like GTA, but neither was RDR. For me it's all about the the adventure, I read this on another forum.

"finding a guy at the side of a trail trying to reshoe his horse, offering help only to watch him get kicked in the head by his disgruntled horse as i walk over.

I stand there for a minute, somewhat amazed, then decide that as he's brown bread, I may as well loot the poor schmuck.

Mid-looting, a passer by catches me with my hands in the dead guys breeches, and naturally assumes I've killed him and am in the process of killing him.

He decides to run off and tell the authorities, I'm not having that, i was an innocent party!

I run after him, try to reason with him...long story short it descends into a fist fight.

Just as i land the deciding punch, another horse riding passer by witnesses my aggression!

Great I think, here we go again, so i mount my trusty steed and give chase to the would be snitch.

I chase him for a good few in game lengths, well into some built up woodland, then just as I'm thinking I'm not catching this guy, I stumble across him being pulled from his rearing horse by a bear...

I could have saved him; but i decided to watch him get ripped to bits.

Love this game."

It's that sort of stuff I like, rather than get annoyed that one job turns into five on the way to do something you have to accept that's the adventure.

Last night, after drinking with Lenny, I decided to take a bounty on as I was in town anyway. Lady bounty, 3 husbands, never divorced, okay so she offs her Husbands. It's wanted 'Alive' too which is a pain because I've seen Django Unchanged and Hateful 8, it always go better if you bring them in dead.

So we (my horse and I) start to plod on down to her last known location, I like to hunt en route to places and drop two deer with the rifle on horse back. Get to a bridge over a deep ravine, on the other side is a bunch of gangsters doing a bunch of gangster shit. They warn me not to cross, I try to reason with them, but they're not having it. So, long ride around, or light their arses up.

So I've taken cover behind a tree and there's a bit of a fire fight, 3 dead, 1 ran off wounded. Lot the bodies and their coach for loads of food and horse drugs mostly, sweet.

Stunning scenic ride, water crossing, that'll stop the Nag moaning for a brush, close call with a bear, decide to run off, drop another deer.

Finally find my bounty camping by the riverside, she's arguing with Husband No4 by the looks of things, well, no messing about, break out the lasso and aim for her. In my haste I've lassoed the husband by mistake and she's running at me like a mad thing with a massive knife and slashes me, at this point the job's knackered so I switch to the volcanic loaded with high velocity rounds to blow her head off, better to take the failed mission than die yeah? Nope, she's killed me.

Whole thing took me about an hour, end in failure, still enjoyed the hell out of it, even if I'd managed to capture her and returned her to jail, I wouldn't have progressed the story one bit.


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 9:55 am
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haha yeah those couple of stories make you realise how good it is. just gotta sit back and enjoy it!

i rescued a woman tied to a horse, while she was over my shoulder a passer by grassed me up for kidnapping!! turned into a right old tear up...!


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 10:29 am
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I've given in and bought it.  I'm now bored waiting for it to install.


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 5:39 pm
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Hahaha!


 
Posted : 29/10/2018 7:41 pm
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Currently being good, at some point I shall tire of this and start shooting people cos they looked at me funny or throwing dynamite into buildings but restraining myself.


 
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Controls keep getting me in trouble - accidentally shit someone today when trying to accelerate on my horse

then when tidying up the scene also shot someone else (half accident) poking their nose in. Ended up killing loads of people - fully expect to be skint after I pay off the bounty


 
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I think your typing is lacking too haha

Controls keep getting me in trouble – accidentally shit someone today when trying to accelerate on my horse


 
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On the Black Belle mission and came across a crowd of KKK holding a ritual in the forest. flicked through the inventory wondering how to disrupt it and came across a stick of dynamite. Big Grin, light, throw. Only one survived and he got the business end of a double-barreled shotgun. Hugely satisfying.


 
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Controls keep getting me in trouble – accidentally shit someone today when trying to accelerate on my horse

You must have felt that on the way out!

As a rule of thumb with this game (and to a lessor extent the first one) put your gun away until you intend on shooting something. Walking around with your gun drawn in town or just when you're riding past someone will cause you bother but more importantly the control to interact with NPCs is the same one to aim at them when your gun is drawn.


 
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haha lolz how does one shit someone anyhow.

Yes the problem was i didn't know how to put the damn gun away!  Got a solid three hours of 'shitting' people in yesterday, loved it. Really enjoyed the bear tracking and just wondering around. Fantastico!


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 10:25 am
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It's LB on Xbox.

The controls are crap though.


 
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L1 on PS4. if you double tap it it's even cooler! try it!


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 10:31 am
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I wish my horse would know better than to run head first into trees!

also wish bounty hunters would leave me alone! i have no intention of wasting my hard pillaged dollar on paying my own bounty! but im set upon by gangs of em wherever i roam!

found a gold bar last night, worth $500 bucks! Any idea how i cash in on it?? i aint dropping it in Dutch's box!


 
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I nearly caved in yesterday and grabbed a copy in the local Tesco Express.  Had to walk on by and purge all thoughts.

Late in the evening I rewarded myself by firing up Assassins Creed Syndicate (which has been sitting around for 10 months and never opened).  Absolutely brilliant.  Victorian London looks incredible and the ability to scrap with baddies and coppers in different ways is so much fun.  No way do I have the time to play it properly but as many of us know, a bit of a hit now and then is a good thing.

Keep posting your RDR2 updates peeps.


 
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also wish bounty hunters would leave me alone! i have no intention of wasting my hard pillaged dollar on paying my own bounty! but im set upon by gangs of em wherever i roam!

You can hand yourself in at the Sheriffs office and do your time (it's only a cut-scene) and you pay the same penalty as if you're killed. It's usually cheaper unless you're carrying about $100k of glitched money.


 
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P-Jay! i did not know that! nice one...


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 12:11 pm
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There's some bat crazy shit goes on the in this game. KKK guys get some justice, weird family in the swamps and some other odd goings on.


 
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If rockstar are rockstar, there will probably be alien abductions and anal probing as well.


 
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i just hog tied someone to the train tracks. messy!


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 9:02 pm
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Haha! Use to love doing that in the first. Must get around to it.


 
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Didn’t enjoy the debt collecting tasks, the farmer especially- it sort of brought it home that in RDR1 that John Marsden was generally a good guy (at the time) and you could do bad things if you wanted to, Arthur is a bad guy who can do the odd non-bad thing.

Anyway, final debt was the treasure map geezer, I was thinking of what to do with him, he was a bit to a prick even jog tied... leave him in the tracks? The train just left, ride into deep water and drown him? Leave him tied up for something to eat him? I was galloping towards the treasure thinking about this when my horse fell into a hole and we crashed - there was a distant church bell that made me think he was probably dead - but I shot him in the head to be sure with the Volcanic and literally blew his head off - bit grim, when I passed him on the way back ravens were picking at the stump...

Went for a deluxe bath to get over it all ha ha


 
Posted : 30/10/2018 9:44 pm
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Hahaha!

I'm loving Arthur he as you so a real bad guy. I keep getting massively distracted still so slowed down on the missions.


 
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unlocked fast travel. not ideal as you can only travel to town already discovered, and you can only travel there from camp! but not sure you can travel back? kindda gutted i wasted $300 bucks on it...


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 8:51 am
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You can't fast travel back but you can use trians and coaches to get you near by.


 
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On a busy train reading this, and getting very odd looks as I’ve been giggling about the “accidentally shit someone today” typo. For about ten minutes.


 
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Well I spent about half and hour running away, trying to make peace and then shooting more people trying to talk to them, first go with a console in many years


 
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I can't believe it's Wednesday already. Last I checked it was Saturday!

I've fell for this game big time, so much to do, all the little details are amazing.


 
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Was playing last night with my 12 yo daughter watching. Whistled for my horse, horse rocks up, daughter "Dad, your horse is having a shit", and sure as hell it was, such detail is amazing 🙂


 
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Did it shit anyone?


 
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I rewarded myself by firing up Assassins Creed Syndicate (which has been sitting around for 10 months and never opened).  Absolutely brilliant.

Syndicate is ace, it's probably my favourite out of the series.  It's absolutely beautiful, they've ironed out the kinks in the controls from earlier games, and he interplay between Evie and Jacob is great.


 
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I'm halfway through AC Odyssey at the moment, hoping RDR2 will be cheaper by the time I'm done.

As fun as the AC series could be at times it never really clicked with me until now. Making it more of an RPG really suits it, and they've finally paid attention to complaints people have had since the first game - e.g. reducing the cut scenes and modern day sections to a bare minimum.


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 12:03 pm
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Turns out it may be a bit of expensive game for me.


 
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LOL

I feel the need for some better sound on mine, also got AC Odyssey as a change of scenary with the deal I got, and doom for dark evenings... Was a costly entry to console gaming


 
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Interested to hear how much difference HDR makes. I'm not going to be replacing my Xbox with a One X and a new TV for one game, it's a shame Rockstar drag their heels on PC releases so much.


 
Posted : 31/10/2018 4:00 pm
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I'm sure you know it's not just for RDR2 but it has made to just order one in the end. I watch quite a bit of Netflix too so it'll be a bonus for that too.


 
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I think we'll need a new TV soon, our 'old' (actually 4 years old, but I'm told that's old these days) LG keeps turning itself in to standby mode with increasing regularity.

I read on the monitor thread that the Xbox S supports higher resolution, I assume that doesn't mean 4K?


 
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I read on the monitor thread that the Xbox S supports higher resolution, I assume that doesn’t mean 4K?

The One S supports 4K for streamed / Blu-Ray movies, it doesn't do anything for gaming resolution.  Essentially it's just got a HDMI 2 port now rather than the original's HDMI 1.something.  The S can upscale to 4K, but so can every 4K TV in existence (it might do a better job of it than the TV though, depending how good the TV's image processing is).

If you've got an Xbox One, I'd either jump to a One X or just stick with what you've got.  There's little compelling reason to consider the S as an upgrade path.


 
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Ah thanks, I thought that was the case.

Ive already got an S, it’s the TV that’s going 4K but I guessed if the S could game at 4K you wouldn’t need the X.


 
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My eyes aren't 4k ultra HD compatible

The game's just as tedious on my normal HD telly. Took me ages to get into the first one too. Should have known better really.


 
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geex i think you can manual and pop your horse, make it a bit more playful 😬


 
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Currently I wander into a camp and the inhabitants are very rude to me so I meander off then sneak back and shoot them from the bushes. Manners cost nothing.


 
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The horse does pop but it sure as shit can't take rampage style drops


 
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