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Recommend some walking poles please

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Hi,

Keen to get a pair of walking poles. Any recommendations? Been looking at Black Diamond & Leki but keen to get some recommendations.

Cheers!


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 4:42 pm
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What requirements do you have? Z-poles are easy to stash to backpack are not super durable. Telescoping ones are heavier and may slip.
I just had my lightweight carbon z- poles warrantied due slipping and went with heavier model this time.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 4:48 pm
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I've got some Black Diamond Alpine Carbon which I like a lot. But Mrs Onewheel has some Alpkit Carbon Marathon Ultras which fold, and I'm wondering if she got the better deal - £40 cheaper too!


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 4:53 pm
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I've got a pair of black diamond flicklocks, very nice to use. Also some cheapies that are also nice

I'd recommend going to a shop and having a feel, some feel a bit odd or poorly weighted and it's not til it's in your hand that you can tell

I've never had shock absorbing ones. Light ones sometimes feel a bit too light and slightly heavier ones more pleasant to use


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 4:57 pm
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We have el-cheapo poles after I bent an expensive Black Diamond.

So we have Sprayway carbon (£25 in sale) and Vango Camino (£18 in sale) and they have worked for 4+ years. They have the same fittings as our older, heavier pair of Leki sticks.

Other than folding to a shorter length, I am not convinced on UK walks that anything is much better than cheap. I get that 'in the middle of a few weeks trek in a remote place' that there may be an advantage - but not the difference between el-cheapo and el-expensive...


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:00 pm
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Personally I prefer telescopic ones with the twist fasteners but I know not all others feel the same.  I have some very light CF ones - noticeably nicer to use than the alloy leki ones.  The exact ones I have seem to be no longer available but check the weight of the ones you want - there is a huge difference.  also adjustable length is good as you want them shorter on uphill and longer downhill


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:01 pm
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And whatever you get, glue the small bails on....


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:01 pm
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Thanks everyone. Ideally looking for telescopic poles, either carbon or alloy.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:07 pm
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Posted : 18/12/2023 5:10 pm
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Personally I prefer telescopic ones with the twist fasteners but I know not all others feel the same.

Correct, I loath twist fasteners 😃.
Telescopic Black Diamond CF,the locking mechanisms are great and easy to use(even with gloves on). 👍


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:10 pm
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I've got some telescopic ones, they're crap as they slip when you put more weight on them going downhill.

Fortunately I also have some folding Black Diamonds, the aluminium ones, and they're fine 🙂


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:13 pm
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Twist adjusters are the spawn of the devil. I don't know how many I've repaired over the years and folk just have lots of problems getting them to lock in place. This has been true since the first pair I had, having had to import them from Austria as nowhere in the UK sold them 🤪

I've yet to have any problems (or seen anyone with problems) using the Flip-lock type. 


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:15 pm
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I agree about the twist locks - work of the devil. Also, I'm going to disagree about the cheap vs. expensive thing - I  borrowed some cheap Eurohike ones first and they drove me mad with their rattling noises and unpleasant vibration.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:28 pm
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I have some telescopic black diamond ones my wife has some cheap tiso twist locks.

The tip on the black diamond has held up better( less rounding) .
The handles and straps on the black diamond are nicer. I notice this as I sweat more than my missus.
The twist lock bit and baskets were aralidited on.
The black diamonds are a bit lighter and apparently ski rated.
The tiso poles were way cheaper.

Both nearly 2 decades old and do the same job and been used all over Europe.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:35 pm
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I bought myself some relatively basic Black Diamond telescopics, mainly to work out if poles were the right thing for me. Turns out they are, and I've been really pleased with the alloy Black Diamonds (think they are Trail Sport). Bought the other half some fancy light carbon Leki ones as she was already a poles user, and significantly lighter than me too. I'm a bit of a lump at 115kg, so I might stick with alloy ones in the longterm.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:36 pm
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Interesting scotroutes - I have used twist locks for decades with no issues and no slippage - I don't like the flip locks


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:42 pm
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+1 on FlipLock being just fine. Even with sturdy me resting on them. 


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 5:44 pm
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Posted : 18/12/2023 5:46 pm
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Similar thread recently on UKC
https://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/hill_talk/affordable_-_but_quality_poles-766322?v=1#x9858760


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 6:11 pm
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What everyone (sorry almost everyone tj) says about the twist locks. Avoid them. I’ve had the quick release (click) ones for years with no issues. Oh and as said above, if possible go to a shop. The grips do vary. 


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 6:15 pm
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I've got some Alu BD telescopics with flick lock, and I'm very happy, even after what I guess is 10 years of abuse summer and winter.  I'd like some carbon ones, but not enough to buy a pair


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 6:25 pm
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What are you doing with them?

I've got Leki Carbon Strongs - I think that's the name. I'm 179cm and you'd not want to be much shorter for them. They double as my ski touring poles. What I like about them is the long grip, way longer than you can use with your hands in the loop. I use the lower bit when going up steep sections, especially in snow. Kind of (but not totally) like stabby ice axes. What I dislike about them is as they've got older they've developed a little play in the joints. Not a biggy but I can feel it when on hard surfaces. But I'm the sort of person who gets annoyed by rattles in cars.

If I was using them on hard packed surfaces more I might be interested in some of those poles with a bit of suspension. Mine (and mine are very stiff) do jar my wrists after a bit.

I also lust after some nordic poles too - the flash ones with the quick release straps. I'd trail run with them, as well as nordic walk.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 6:26 pm
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I had cheap Decathlon alloy twist locks, they worked ok with the occasional seize (from storing when damp) until after about 5 years the threads finally dissolved and made them impossible to tighten. One also clicked annoyingly in use.

I have various trekking pole tents so need a reliable set up, replaced the Decathlon poles with some carbon Bergzeit Komperdell branded flick locks which have been fine for the last couple of years.

I rarely hike in bog or snow so have never used the baskets.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 6:28 pm
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I've used both Black Diamond and Leki, also Alpkit, Komperdell and some others I've forgotten, Fizan I think. Mostly they've all been fine, but generally I prefer the adjustable lever-locked ones like Black Diamond's Flicklok - or however they spell it - over twist-lock ones, I just find them more reassuringly secure if you're using them to descend and putting more weight on them.

You tend to pay more for lightness and packability. If those don't matter overmuch to you, just get something mid-range and sturdy from Black Diamond or Leki and you'll be fine unless you're very heavy / very clumsy / hauling around a huge climbing pack and have a tendency to topple sideways a lot.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 6:31 pm
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I’ve got some Mountain King alloy ones I’ve had for 7 years - they are sized, but fold-up small, easy to carry. I find poles more helpful on uphills and flats - I generally don’t use them on descents as I’ve had too many instances of the poles getting trapped/caught nearly tripping me.  I do prefer a Leki-type sling rather than a strap, helps support the wrist and gives more ‘push’.


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 6:39 pm
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Oh bravo sir, bravo


 
Posted : 18/12/2023 7:28 pm
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I’ve got a pair of black diamond flicklocks, very nice to use

These. Much better and more secure than twist lock, easier to use with cold fingers.


 
Posted : 19/12/2023 12:25 am
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I’ve got a single Eurohike pole someone had left in a car, it’s a twist telescopic one, and I’ve been using it for a few years. Never had the twist-lock fail, and it doesn’t rattle, although sometimes you can hear the springs inside working.

Mostly though I use one of my own homemade sticks, that while heavier, are a lot stronger, one’s Holly, two are Hazel and one’s Holly and Yew. A bit impractical for traveling with, unless they can go in the car; I never feel like any of them might bend on a steep slippery downhill path, though.


 
Posted : 19/12/2023 2:18 am
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Black Diamond Expedition Flicklock for durability. Mine are about 15 years old and I've used them for winter climbing and skiing (piste and touring), both of which are much harder on poles than walking. They are quite heavy though so I've tried lighter ones. The Fizan twistlock are sitting in a cupboard seized, I've broken 3 BD carbons and 2 carbon Mountain Kings in the last 2 years. 2 of the BD breakages were around the button that holds them up. The other, and both the MK ones were slipping in snow covered boulders and weighting them heavily with one end wedged. I’ve done the same with the alu poles many times with no breaks. So whilst I like the lightness of carbon poles I've decided they're for summer running only.


 
Posted : 19/12/2023 5:35 am
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What ever I find on the hill or left in the car park. They seem to work and the price is good.


 
Posted : 19/12/2023 7:29 am
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Thanks for all the help everyone. I’ve bought the Harrier Trails Catbells Aluminium Z-Poles which come highly recommended on the thread @JonEdwards linked to.


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 7:59 am
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I bought some nice expensive ones to help me immediately after the anbke incident, once I was off crutches. They were alloy but had the word carbon on the fancy graphics so must have been special. They also had 'twist to lock' which worked fine, for about 2 months and then would gradually slide down. I eventually replaced them when on holiday with some cheapo things picked up for about £15 which were clamped with a QR lever that wouldn't have looked wrong a=on an Halfords bike. Never slipped and worked perfectly ever since. I am not sure I have ever noticed the extra 17 grams weight penalty


 
Posted : 20/12/2023 8:38 am

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