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Fluffer?

Really done with teaching. Too much stress and responsibility.

Have you tried being just a teacher with no extra responsibility?

Also for 30k you could be a part time teacher?

Have a look at your local council job vacancies, you'll likely find a wide range of jobs that could give you some ideas.

https://apply.army.mod.uk/roles

https://www.cyclinguk.org/jobs

computer game artist.

Come to the railway

I've recently left the Police to be a train driver.  Already a much happier place to work

Have you tried being just a teacher with no extra responsibility?

Also for 30k you could be a part time teacher?

Where? If I go down to 4 days I'd be on about 27k. With the same number of students to deal with.

We have someone leaving us next week to go to Network Rail to train to be a signaller. 30k while training then more once trained.

MOD are meant to be a good employer and seem to be taking on loads of people to do project management type jobs in Bristol. They’re actually saying they don’t massively want people to even be in the office - someone I know has just got a job there and have basically been told to work from home full time - so location might not even be an issue.

Really done with teaching. Too much stress and responsibility.

Which is why my stepdaughter left teaching in schools & set up her own online teaching business. She's loving it & doing really well.
Stepson's a train driver with Freightliner, he doesn't 'love' it but he does love the £'s.
It's a very independant role with minimal interaction & a bit outdoorsy, not that you move move much. He just trundles along at 45mph.

Mrs Lunge left teaching after 10 years and struggled to find anything at even approaching the same level of pay.
She ended up retraining as a pharmacy technician, she loves it but the pay isn’t great.

I'd try to find something that's teaching adjacent if possible. You've got plenty of skills and experience that could be applied and it seems like the pay/benefits may be hard to match with a career switch at this point.

Anyone got ideas for a 20kV Senior Authorised Person? Don't mind doing the same job elsewhere but I'm an active outdoor person and really not well suited to pushing paper.

What lunge said. Teachers are actually paid pretty well in relation to other jobs. I left after 10 years on UPS and as a HoD. I took a 1/3 off my salary to change career.
Check out the county council site for jobs and perhaps take a hit on your salary for a job that doesn't pay great but gives you that extra time to retrain or study. It gave me breathing space and time to think about what I wanted to do. I ended up doing my PRINCE2 and now project manage at the council in adult education.
Good luck. It's tough leaving teaching but there is a life after it. I thought I'd miss the holidays...I don't as I don't need them, I don't always finish term burnt out and exhausted. If you want to chat about it all, you're welcome to message me.

I just paid an electrician £800 for 2 days work, and a plumber £470 for 3 holes and some pipe, not quite the heady heights of joiner level at 2.5k a week but if it were about the money I'd consider a trade.

Where are you.

Wife’s school is looking for a teacher of wider achievement.

(Think duke of Edinburgh /John muir trust /interdisciplinary learning)

Looking at your skill set something similar with the change of subject to something complimenting your interests (outdoor and fitness)with your Skillset(teaching) rather than trying to start again.

Anyone got ideas for a 20kV Senior Authorised Person? Don’t mind doing the same job elsewhere but I’m an active outdoor person and really not well suited to pushing paper.

Do you not get out to site to actively do switching/isolations, or is it just permit issuing?

Railways, train up as a COSS, PICOP or Engieering Supervisor. You could then pick your own shifts, loads of regular work, outdoors and can be well paid.

Change school and position.
I have been in your shoes

Do you not get out to site to actively do switching/isolations, or is it just permit issuing?

Used to be very operational. No idea why but for the last two years, virtually everyone has been chained to a desk, very occasionally let out to play.

Issuing safety documents to my mind would count as operational. When I say paper pushing, it's admin/project management/streetworks etc.

Looking at your skill set something similar with the change of subject to something complimenting your interests (outdoor and fitness)with your Skillset(teaching) rather than trying to start again.

That could be good. The teaching part is fine with the students that actually want to learn, but there's more each year that just don't want to know. I'd much rather teach adults. Just no idea where to start.

I just paid an electrician £800 for 2 days work, and a plumber £470 for 3 holes and some pipe, not quite the heady heights of joiner level at 2.5k a week but if it were about the money I’d consider a trade.

Was that £800 labour plus materials and/or VAT ?

Do look at what else is around

I feel guilty typing this. I shouldn't i'm paid appropriately for what i do

I work in a sixth form college. I only teach alevel physics. I have 4 groups each for 4 and a half hours per week. I do one 45 minute support period per week. I get remission for being in the CPD team. I came from a job that was destroying me. I cried when i realised i didn't have to teach naughty kids any more

It's still knackering and demanding. I still have pressure over results. But on balance its a great life

Yesterday in a garage a blocke lept out of a huge BMW. In summary he said. Thanks for teaching me alevel physics john. I now run my own geotechnical services company

@onzadog tried network rail or utilities? One of our guys with HV walked out and into a better paying job on the railways.

As an aside how do you get into SAP? I was hoping to do the training at work but that all got canned as they started preparing to wind the site down. I have access to the regs and stuff but no real opportunity to do the practical side. I'm an APSP (Authorised Person Safety Precautions) if that means anything to the outside world. Basically I take documents from a SAP and apply isolations.

@squirrelking

I got my SAP by working of one of the regional DNOs. Funny thing is, each company has its own version of the rules and runs their own assesment for their network. However, they're all based on the same principles so once you're in, a read of a new companies safety rules should get you through the panel. The training was a pretty long process so I don't imagine there's many opportunities outside of the DNOs although some larger companies do put people forward for assessment. Usually at lower voltages though, more of the crafts side of things. If they need SAPs, they're normally just poached.

I'm interested in all this talk of train driver. No great love of trains but my current job involves running complex interconnected process to a strick set of safety rules whilst being responsible for keeping those around me safe. Can't imagine there's a huge amount of daily paperwork getting in the way of doing the job once qualified.

Inverness Shunter sounds good! £34k while training.

https://uk.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=0d1845104f0eac6f&from=serp

Do supply teaching through an agency. No need to re train, more flexibility, less planning stress etc

I’m interested in all this talk of train driver. No great love of trains

Well that’s a good start, the last thing rail companies want are train spotters!
My stepson didn’t know the difference between a class 66 & Mallard when he went for his interview.

What is SAP?

SAP is a Senior Authorised Person. Someone who is responsible for ensuring the safety of themselves and others where high voltage electrical networks are involved.

I'd love to drive trains but rubbish colour sight has always prevented that, along with lots of other cool jobs. Its frustrating as I can very clearly see signals / traffic lights but rules are rulz.

@onzadog every thought of Shift operations in Energy from waste plants? - SAP/people/process/lots going on??

SAP is a Senior Authorised Person. Someone who is responsible for ensuring the safety of themselves and others where high voltage electrical networks are involved.

Any system really, it just depends on what authorisations you have.

Most of ours start on electrical and mechanical, HV is an additional competency because it's a totally different ball game.

SAP is a Senior Authorised Person. Someone who is responsible for ensuring the safety of themselves and others where high voltage electrical networks are involved.

Could do that. As long as it doesn't require a specific qualification.

Which subject do you teach?

That could be good. The teaching part is fine with the students that actually want to learn, but there’s more each year that just don’t want to know. I’d much rather teach adults. Just no idea where to start.

Local college? I have a friend who teaches in one and whilst its not without its hassle she seems far less stressed than school teachers, has students who mostly chose to be their and do her subject, and (importantly!) doesn't really deal with pushy/demanding parents. She finds it fairly rewarding as the students mostly go on to either university following the sort of subjects she was teaching them in or go into work using at least some of the stuff she taught.

Do supply teaching through an agency. No need to retrain, more flexibility, less planning stress etc

My mother did this for several years. She eventually went back to permanent teaching and hated it, but really quite enjoyed supply - expectations were low, other teachers were grateful they weren't having to cover, moving round helped avoid the staff room politics, parents were happier there was a supply teacher rather than no one - even maternity cover supply was OK compared to "proper career teaching" stuff! I think tutoring is another option that can either complement supply or if you build up a reputation replace it - the hours are obviously not so good but the pupils' commitment can be higher (not necessarily) and patents attitudes can be different, and prep is about the teaching rather than the BS.

Local college? 

That's where I am now.

Do supply teaching through an agency. No need to retrain, more flexibility, less planning stress etc

A bit tricky with my subjects. Few and far between would mean unsecured income.

Could do that. As long as it doesn’t require a specific qualification.

You'd generally need a technical qualification in engineering or a related topic to join a utility company, or previous specific experience. SAP is an additional responsibility or a role you move into after being operational for a while. I don't think Onzadog was suggesting it as an alternative career, more one he want's out of!

I was a mechanical and LV SAP many moons ago. Decided to give it up when I moved off my operator role, didn't think I would maintain the knowledge in that safety critical task if I wasn't doing it regularly.

Teachers are actually paid pretty well in relation to other jobs. I left after 10 years on UPS and as a HoD.

I'm not a teacher and I've got to say that doesn't stack up for me. They may be better paid than low skilled jobs, or perhaps if you are assessing on some artificial model where they work 9-3 for only 40 weeks a year versus 8.30-5 48 weeks a year, but I'm really not convinced that they are "pretty well paid". Perhaps the problem is people leaving teaching want to go to jobs where there's no other politics/beurocracy/angry customers/tagets etc - it may be that those jobs are less well paid.

If teachers were well paid I'd seriously consider switching (I think I would really enjoy it, and have real world experience that would make theory easier for kids who have no desire to follow those subjects relate to), but it would involve me cutting my income substantially. I am well paid and carry a shit load of responsibility and beuarocracy to go with it, but even compared to the new staff I hire most would earn more than a teacher.

Fluffer?

No, that's out.

Things I’m not good at and don’t want to do:
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Dealing with pushy loud people

Also,

Part-time teachers earn 30k?

Wanna swap jobs?

Part time could be considered anything other than 5 days a week so yeah £30k is pretty easily acheivable.

My wife is a pt teacher, her biggest struggle is picking up where the other pt teacher leaves off.

If they aren't a team its a struggle.

Given the hours they do all teachers are underpaid.

As mentioned above, I wasn't suggesting SAP as an alternative but having said that, depending on who you work for, electrical distribution network operators can be good to work for.

It was a good earn as you learn thing today and all of them seem to be regularly recruiting for craftspersons.

It was a good earn as you learn thing today and all of them seem to be regularly recruiting for craftspersons.

I'd discounted him starting as an apprentice and working his way up, what with the salary expectations and all! 😁

Also,

Part-time teachers earn 30k

We don't. Not in FE anyway. Part time to me is 4 8hr days or less.

If it wasn't for the fact I wouldn't go back to shift work, I'd quite fancy this.

https://www.nats.aero/careers/vacancies/v/230475/

I'm going to join this.
Ex machinist/ engineering tool maker.
Good with CAD/CAM and organizing small team (when needed).

Just fed up with the ever increasing work load and the teaching staff being treated and the bad guy in the business.

To be fair the whole department is about to walk...

McDonald’s are paying £13 an hour down Exeter at the moment- bloody good for a zero responsibility role imho

Also,

Part-time teachers earn 30k?

Wanna swap jobs?

I'm on £41k I think, roughly. That's for a 5 day week. 41/5*4= a tad under 33 doesn't it......

I’m on £41k I think, roughly. That’s for a 5 day week. 41/5*4= a tad under 33 doesn’t it……

Where?

How old are you? I'm early 40's and struggling to find a new career after jacking in my old job in the oilfield.

Possibly the pandemic didn't help but it's been a soul-destroying journey so far.

My opinion is that most jobs suck and have downsides. Many people become frustrated and restless as they approach and become middle-aged too.

If you think a bad job sucks try being on benefits or doing an ultra-crap job like shelf-stacking. Teaching may seem brilliant in contrast.

Nearly 40 too. Lockdown made me realise how much I like being at home. Or at least part time so I have more time to do the things I enjoy.

I'm not at all restless. Got plenty of things to do but not enough time to do them.

If it wasn’t for the fact I wouldn’t go back to shift work, I’d quite fancy this.

Damn! I actually fit those requirements, guess that's my weekend sorted.

He just trundles along

Sounds lovely.

If it wasn’t for the fact I wouldn’t go back to shift work, I’d quite fancy this.

https://www.nats.aero/careers/vacancies/v/230475//blockquote >

But then you’d have to work alongside me, and that’s enough to put anyone off.

 

@squirrelking so are you lot done come April then? Take it a lot if folk stay on to decommission? How does that work? Not EDF that do it is it?.

@paino, I'm sure you'd be cool to work with, sure there's someone else on here from Atlantic House too.

He just trundles along

Sounds lovely.

Yeah, not the most exciting job. You have to be able to concentrate on naff all for as long as necessary but ready to react quickly.
Still, 50K plus ain’t bad for the ‘work’ involved. 😀

Have you thought about getting a job as in TV as an editor? Not outdoorsy and there will be some pushy people but pay is good

It's also the kind of job that you make make it want you want it to be- ie if you want to specialise in the outdoorsy, Banff Film Fest type of stuff (and don't mind not chasing the $$$ quite so hard) then you can do that, as everyone is freelance innit

@nobeerinthefridge my job is secure until R3 is emptied when there will be a round of redundancies before R4 gets done. We (generation) thought we were safe but have since been told things that put that into doubt, message may change by next week though. In any event I have about 2 years to find something better and that looks good enough to jump for despite the redundancy package and pension.

As for long term, EDF are defuelling and then Magnox will be taking over for decommissioning some time in 2025 if the time scales are correct.

But then you’d have to work alongside me, and that’s enough to put anyone off.

Can't be worse than some of the wallopers I've suffered over the years 😉

Looking at it in the cold light of day, it's electrical and I'm mechanical, have I any hope?

Obviously paino will know better, but from the ad it looks like the right person is more important than the right background.

Some of our best automation guys didn't come through the traditional instrumentation route, my old Reliability team lead was a spark, but his mechanical knowledge he'd gained over the years would put many to shame.

Ah well I can only try. SSE looks like it has a decent grad programme as well if I can get the OU to sort my degree out. Phil (5566?) is Atlantic House is he not?

Aye, that's who it is! Too early this morning when I typed that. 😴

DSM over the hill are chucking money at the plant too, worth a look.

@nobeerinthefridge I thought Phil5556 works at Glasgow…could be wrong.

@squirrelking if you’re open to shift work then I’d jump at the engineering position. You’ll work in a small team, so the right person is the priority above anything else.
We’re in a position at the moment where the introduction of new controller workstations (Direct point en-route) is taking priority whilst still managing the current set up. The transition between the 2 platforms (2023 probably) will be a huge engineering step so they need folk in now.
Always with NATS you need to do your homework to show willing…knowing the industry, how ATC works etc
Pm me if you want more details…although I’m only in tonight then off for 2 weeks.

Will do, I'm already doing shifts so that's not such a big deal.

Have you thought about getting a job as in TV as an editor? Not outdoorsy and there will be some pushy people but pay is good

Yes, but no experience (even though I have the skills) and nothing near me. Don't want to commute to London.

Local college?

That’s where I am now.

Do supply teaching through an agency. No need to retrain, more flexibility, less planning stress etc

A bit tricky with my subjects. Few and far between would mean unsecured income.

Ok you still didn’t tell us what subjects? But I’m going to guess it’s animation/video production type stuff? If your students aren’t motivated are you just in the wrong college? Do people study these subjects at your place because they have no idea what else to do / thought it would be a skive? There are people who really want to do that stuff if you can find them. Sometimes private schools may have better opportunities with less apathetic pupils. (I have two friends who were quite “anti-private school” in their views who through circumstance found themselves having to consider it and wouldn’t go back).

If you really want to teach adults then there probably is demand, and from what I can see formal night school stuff is dropping off and being replaced by commercial offerings but I think there are two problems:
- you need to be willing to do the promotion / marketing / sales type stuff and it sounds like that’s probably amongst your list of stuff you don’t like
- you will be competing against the likes of skillshare, udemy etc - so you’ll need to be able to show that your physical presence is better than just following along some tutorials

BUT you could experiment with the idea in weekends / holidays to test demand.

It's an FE college so mostly 16 to 18 year old. Most choose the subject because they like it but have no interest I getting a job. They just want to look at s**t on the internet all day and I spend most my time trying to control them. Thier parents don't care what they do either, and just want them out the house.
I want out of teaching ideally.