[Closed] Recommend me a 'down' jacket that.....

I still swear by my Montane Prism (in fact I have two now). Not as warm as down but more packable, washable and less affected by damp. I guess it all depends on just how warm you need it to be though. Shop around and you should find one for around £80.

In fact... http://www.milletsports.co.uk/more-sports/outdoor/clothing/mens/jackets/montane-prism-mens-jacket/

If you want packable look at anything with Primaloft 1 - so the Montane Prism or Patagonia Nanopuff.

I've had my nanopuff 18months, I had its predecessor (which died after 7 years in a flamey death) - buy one. They are probably my favourite bit of kit I own.

Nice one Col! I'll look at that. I'm thinking about one for that trip up your way in 3 weeks time!
(I did Email you) 🙂

I have a patagonia nano puff hoody. Lovely versatile jacket. Also have the ultra light down, very good.
Both on sale here(where I get my patagonia bits).
http://www.themountainfactor.com/shop/brand/patagonia

My North Face is 10 years old now and still going strong - no major feather leakage.
No hood and a little short on the arms but overall, still very happy with it

Mrs MC's Alpkit down jacket is noticeably nicer than my RAB one.

[quote=esselgruntfuttock ]Nice one Col! I'll look at that. I'm thinking about one for that trip up your way in 3 weeks time!
(I did Email you) Oh? I must have missed it. Try again??

I wear my Montane Prism ALL the time, it really needs washing though as it's pretty disgusting at the moment. Lots of very similar jackets about, Rab Xenon, ME Fitzroy (slightly warmer at 100gm insulation in the torso rather than 60 for the prism, but more expensive as a result). I'd go for synthetic over down as there's no need to worry about getting it wet and it turning to sludge.

I've never heard of Primaloft until now. Is it just as light as down?

Primaloft isn't as light as down for the same warmth. It is warm when wet though and easier to look after.

The sale stuff on the Patagonia website is pretty good at the moment.

Weight for warmth, good down probably still wins. The convenience factor of Primaloft scores highly though, especially in any environment in which water is involved.

There's now a nice hybrid bag available - the ME Matrix. It has down on top and Primaloft on the bottom. The latter still retains some insulating properties even when compressed so works well as a bottom layer.

It comes in sheets of varying thickness, which are then sewn into the jacket, meaning whilst you could have a synthetic jacket lighter than a down one, it wouldn't be as warm for a given weight. However, it has the benefit of not throwing out insulation if you rip the outer material.

Scotroutes, YGM.

I got a rab generator gillet for summer and a generator jacket for winter - no hood but greater weight of insulation for the same price as the montane.

If you want it rather warm, look at the Keela Belay jacket. It is 133g Primaloft, so heavier than most, and fairly bulky. Maybe too warm for most weather. You can get one for about £60.

Cheers Craig, probably used in Scotland in Autumn & Spring but not January in the Cairngorms! Needs to be bike-packable?

Mountain equipment xero- toasty warm and packs light.
I've had one for a few years, and would recommend it.
Down from £240 to 160 at Cotswold outdoor.
http://m.cotswoldoutdoor.com/mountain-equipment-mens-xero-hooded-jacket-1b110586?id_colour=162

If you want cheap, but with a surprising amount of warmth, the Uniqlo ULD range are worth looking at:
http://www.uniqlo.com/uk/store/list/basic/men/outerwear/ultralightdown
I've got a gilet, a parka and a jacket, and for their weight, they really do keep the warmth in.

Look for the best deal you can on a RAB Microlight Alpine Jacket. Packs down nice and small, well made, fits under a shell, works well if it gets wet and is just about the best bit of kit I own. Pretty much live in it during the winter. I don't reckon there is a better mid weight down jacket out there.

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/rab-microlight-alpine-jacket-p282553

Arcteryx Atom is a great choice too. Long slim body. I've got the vest and it's seriously toasty. In sale at facewest. Nice soft face fabric that's got some water resistance too.

http://www.facewest.co.uk/Arcteryx-SS14-Atom-LT-Hoody.html

Rohan, very light, very warm and good price. My wife has had one for a couple of years and loves it. I've just got one.

http://www.rohan.co.uk/mens-bargain-travel-and-outdoor-clothing-in-the-souk-Nightfall-Jacket?ocode=03511A76

I've got a montane fireball smock that I use for bikepacking and hiking trips. There's a blue one here in xl for £65:
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I've got a Mountain Equipment Fitzroy jacket, which is Primaloft insulation, and is plenty warm with just a t-shirt underneath.

In fact one of the only times I have worn a jumper underneath it was about -20 or something silly in Chamonix. Packs down tightly into a (provided) stuff sack too.

If you haven't guessed already, I recommend.

Only 1 tiny mention of Alpkit!
their filo is good value.
Remember that all of the cheaper jackets are stitched through rather than box constructed. That means thinner bits which of course are not as warm.
2 years ago when it was properly cold I wore my Prism under my Filo. snuggly 😆
Go Outdoors do their own brand which doesn't look bad value.

One of the best bits of technical kit I own. Not cheap and a bit of a "special" item. But great technical characteristics.

A Klattermusen Liv down smock
http://klattermusen.se/produktsida.php?lang=en&ID=1015&sex=2&curr=EUR

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I can pack my XL into a pint pot. I was wearing mine last night while out on the malvern hills watching the fireworks championships above Eastnor Park. Toastie. Great two season evening jacket and in winter it goes under my rain shell.

Sad his 'n' hers Alpkit Filo wearers here....

GregMay - Member
If you want packable look at anything with Primaloft 1 - so the Montane Prism or Patagonia Nanopuff.

To OP
Personally, if weight and pack size is critical, then I'd still go with a down jacket and just make sure it doesn't get wet. TNF and Rab you listed are good and add Alpkit, Mountain Equipment. PHD use the best quality down and materials, but you pay for it.
In synthetic, Montane if you're on a budget, Mountain Equipment Fitzroy is often recommended by climbers (ME Compressor is their thinner version). Pretty much anything using Primaloft.

I love winter jacket threads.

Good review here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Kezzaharrison/status/505809050240823298/photo/1

I love my montane prism, it is like wearing a cuddle and will do everything you describe.

I have a North Face Thermoball jacket.
Very warm even when it gets wet and also very light and packs down small.

I have a blue one with hood. highly recommended

I can pack my XL into a pint pot

I was just re-reading that and thinking, "nice turn of phrase, but is it accurate?"

So I thought I'd check.
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It actually takes 2 pints. I reckon with something not made of glass and some compression straps I could nearly squooosh it into a pint and a half. certainly Mrs Stoner's size small I could.

I love my montane prism, it is like wearing a cuddle and will do everything you describe.

I'm sold! 😀

Some good recommendations here fellas, thank you all! I'll let you know what I end up with. Calling at Go Outdoors at Teesside on Wednesday. 😆

Ok, went for the Rab Microlight Alpine at Go Outdoors. Was up for £162 but the very helpful lass said 'look on Nevis Sports site cos we can price match', so I did & it was £152. She double checked & I ended up paying £137.68!?
Happy days. Nearly went for the Prism mind.

Ta for the help fellas.

Nice, I nearly bought a Rab Microlight Alpine, but decided to go with synthetic jackets cos we use them on the boat when waterskiing and everything gets wet.

Rab hoody one and it does the business as well as being packable. Picked up from the sale rail at Go Outdoors which is always worth raking through