[Closed] recommend me a diet!

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road biking.

i started the road biking diet last jan, and since then can eat whatever the hell i like, and have been steadily losing weight ever since.

and i SERIOUSLY eat.

never been fitter either.

so there we go, to sum up. ride more. ride harder. ride until you have teeth marks on your bar tape and you cry every time you go out.

I'd be wary of increasing exercise levels - you're doing a fair bit and you can over do it.

I'd look at reducing calorie intake - do you drink much alcohol?

iDave is all you need to know.

It sounds like a fad diet with loads of fanbois, but that's cos we've tried it and it's incredibly effective in most cases. I've just touched 10kg lost since late March, and I've not gone hungry once. And I was a fit active fast biker before I started this.

You sound exactly like me - loads of riding, not taking the piss with eating and still not thin. I discovered that my diet was causing my body to produce a lot of insulin, which works to keep me fat(ter).

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If you search the forum you'll find tons of success stories and a lot of unrelated waffle from some enthusiastic forum members.:)

iDave is all you need to know.

*sigh*

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honestly there is no need to 'go on a diet'

calories in must be lower than calories out to lose weight. fairly simple.

if you can't stop etaing (like me) you need to ride/excersize more.

for me, mountain biking is too social, and varying terrain means its harder to maintain constant effort - i also think its easier to slack while riding.

for me, road biking murders you from the second you get on, to the second you get off, there is no hiding...

thus

more road/high intensity biking = more weight loss.

I have a very slow metabolism, even when I was young I was never one of the kids who could scoff happy meals whenever I wanted. I'm not diabetic but have thin-ish blood (get haemotomas often and easily) and according to the docs that can lead my body to craving sugar.

To give you an idea today I've eaten 2 slices of toast with marmite, some pasta, small packet of mini cheddars and 2 bananas, I've also got 2 homemade cereal bars (from the river cottage book, they're amazing!) which will be eaten before I get home. coupled with 22 miles on the bike and probably a 45 minute swim when I get home.

I do drink, not a huge amount, but regularly. I will probably have 5-6 pints a week on average.

I've seen the iDave diet banded around, perhaps I'll give it a go.

EDIT: I would say my commute is quite high intensity despite not being that long. It is about 5 miles on road and the other 6 on Bridlepath. I always make sure I can feel that I'm working myself.

ride them 22 miles harder.

that can lead my body to craving sugar.

Have an apple then.

If todays menu is indicative of your regular food, you may benefit from upping your vegetable intake, and putting a lid on the processed carbs a bit.

I have a very slow metabolism

Not being dramatic but I would get a blood test and get your thyroid checked, I have an under active thyroid which stopped me losing weight, now take thyroxin daily and my weights dropped.

I recommend giving idave a go though.

calories in must be lower than calories out to lose weight. fairly simple.

Except it's not, because the things that govern 'calories out' are complex and mysterious.

Become unemployed.Eat 2 weetabix at about 10 o'clock.Do 4 hours riding.Eat a microwave pasta'n'sauce at 6 o'clock.Repeat everyday for a month (so far).Lost 4 kilos....and i was'nt exactly fat before.

You should go on the 'put down the damn fork' diet.

Works wonders.

it is FAIRLY simple.

thanks for the advice, it's good to band ideas around, especially with some people who may have/may be experiencing similar.

I don't eat a lot of processed foodstuffs generally. I bake my own bread and although I do find pasta easy to eat during the day, I do tend to use wholewheat as it is generally lower in carbs. I would normally eat 3 portions of veg in an evening meal, and we grow most of our own veg so I can see where it's coming from.

Last check up I had was last may and I had bloodtests done then, nothing irregular appeared, but I guess that doesn't mean things haven't developed since.

A good way to increase your metabolism is to increase your muscle mass - get lifting some weights!

I don't eat a lot of processed foodstuffs generally. I bake my own bread and although I do find pasta easy to eat during the day, I do tend to use wholewheat as it is generally lower in carbs. I would normally eat 3 portions of veg in an evening meal, and we grow most of our own veg so I can see where it's coming from.

it is FAIRLY simple.

You only say that because you don't know how complicated it is 🙂

it is FAIRLY simple.

No it's not, it's:

...complex and mysterious.

.....apparently.

i bow down to your wiseness. 😉

The basics always remain the same - to lose weight you need to have a calorie deficit.

The NHS websites will give you what the medical consensus is now. There are a series of theories about what foods are better to eat to make this easier to do. iDave diet has adherents on here. this is another theory http://giveupsugar.com/. You have low and high GI diets, atkins, carb counting etc etc

The key thing is its not a "diet" - you have to change the way you eat for your lifetime or else you will Yoyo which is very bad for you.

One thing to really look for is hidden calories - soft drinks contain huge amounts, some savoury food is stuffed with sugars, sports drinks can be full of sugars.

molly... do tell me if i'm being an idiot (i enjoy being an idiot at times, it keeps me young) but no matter how complex, mysterious and magical the human body is at processing different foods/chemicals/products..... surely when you break it down to a simple summary it is as simple as calories in need to be less than calories out?

yes you can eat certain foods that promote certain responses within the body, you can speed up your metabolism in many magical ways, you could set fire to yourself to burn off the extra fat... but in the end its the simple... calories out vs calories in?

(EDIT - sorry for crowbarring that question into the thread... the idave diet has seen a LOT of success on here and its a clever diet, i just wanted to ask molly that question)

The key thing is its not a "diet" - you have to change the way you eat for your lifetime or else you will Yoyo which is very bad for you.

Generally speaking I agree, especially in the case of severe diets, but I think there is a negative feedback mechanism that tends towards keeping us at the same weight, in some of us at least.

I seem to remember reading that fat cells release a hormone that inhibits fat cell growth...

sports drinks can be full of sugars

Which is the point 🙂

Oh, I would just like to add I do not just come onto iDave threads and poo poo for no reason. I have tried it and found no major benefit over a regular calorie controlled and healthy diet.

....for a laugh tho I am thinking of trying full [url= http://www.reddit.com/help/faqs/keto ]Keto[/url] for a couple of weeks while I am out of action with a back injury. I expect rapid water weight loss for a week or so, then for it to all flood back on as soon as I have an apple 8)

surely when you break it down to a simple summary it is as simple as calories in need to be less than calories out

Yes, but that's like saying the secret of financial security is to make lots of money. True, but unhelpful and tautological (I recently looked up the real meaning of this word 🙂 ).

How to get calories in down and calories out up sustainably and effectively CAN actually be quite hard, and can be mroe difficult than 'put down the pies fattie and get on yer bike' - at least when it comes to the last 5% of bf that you want to lose.

I have tried it and found no major benefit over a regular calorie controlled and healthy diet

I've tried (and succeeded with) both, and found iDave to be massively more effective. Staggeringly so. Of course, Jamie will probably assume that I was doing the traditional way wrongly. However - he has his body, I have mine, they are both different.

All I will say is if you lose nearly 2 stone Molgrips, why no after pics? 😉

Of course, Jamie will probably assume that I was doing the traditional way wrongly.

Harsh, man. I have only picked you up when you have been doing something wrong. iDave and muffins don't mix.

make it go away

Apologies, Jamie, but that's what people usually assume.

make it go away

You have opened Pandora's Box.

I've eaten 2 slices of toast with marmite, some pasta, small packet of mini cheddars and 2 bananas, I've also got 2 homemade cereal bars

Carbs, carbs and more carbs. And some saturated fat.

That's exactly the sort of diet that got me in the overweight state I'm in.

A vegan diet. But add meat and fish if you want.

surely when you break it down to a simple summary it is as simple as calories in need to be less than calories out

Yes

save this thread TJ!!!

When I was 22 stone I found that the amphetamine lifestyle diet was the best way to lose weight.

You have to be prepared to stay out for two or three days on end, hang out with interesting people, and sleep at strange hours.

It works really well if combined with a choice of dancemusic.

4 weeks ago i took an honest look in the mirror and said 'phillips you fat barsteward' 13st 10lbs and a shade under 5' 10".
so I did the idave thing for a week and dropped a bit but it never felt like i was enjoying my eating and as teej says its about lifestyle changes not diets and [b][u]for me[/u][/b] staying on that regime wasn't going to be sustainable.
So I know have a bowl of porridge for breakkie with water and honey/raisins/sugar (delete 2 of them but it changes to what i fancy) lunch is now salad and meat/fish and dinner i'll eat whatever the rest of the family is eating but minus the pasta/pots/white rice.(whatever we eat is cooked from scratch and no packet mixes etc)
yesterday i weighed 12st 11 and over the last month have done very little exercise due to way too much D.I.Y on my extension, once i get back running and cycling regularly I'm expecting more weight loss faster.
I was a serial snacker and crisps/biscuits were my downfalls, now snack on very small portions of nuts/seeds/raisins and drinking litres of water per day, I can honestly say ive never felt better and now have no temptation to reach for the crisp cupboard anymore.
its nowhere near as much fun as quirrels dietary advice but it works for me.

What's working for me is the following. Unless you're a nutcase you won't be able to stick to it 100% but try. Have one day off a week where you eat whatever you want. If you feel genuinely lethargic or listless have a wee bit of carbs.

You may recognise this as a rough version of Ferriss' 'slow carb diet'. I am not a doctor but I have lost a kilo a week for the past 7 weeks doing this in conjunction with exercise and have never felt better. YMMV but I'm sure many have had success with a similar plan. Good luck!

EAT/DRINK

Lean protein
Vegetables
Legumes
Lots of water
Lots of green tea

DON'T EAT/DRINK

Flour (Bread, Cake, Biscuits etc)
Rice
Sugar
Fruit juice/fizzy drinks
Alcohol

That ^^^ is basically the iDave diet, more or less.

Ferriss who?

loling at the boys on their diets....lasagna for tea...yummy

Ferriss who?

Invented the wheel.

loling at the boys on their diets....lasagna for tea...yummy

Nuffin wrong with looking pretty for the laydeez and/or guyz. 8)

Invented the wheel.

Emsz you know how you complain about your own body.....?

Is the wheel allowed on the iDave diet? This really is getting very confusing now.

Only if rotated top-wise.

Molly I thought guys didn't care about all this sort of stuff, that was until I came on here though. 🙂

Only if rotated top-wise.

Molly I thought guys didn't care about all this sort of stuff, that was until I came on here though.

Typical woman. All caught up in their own shit to notice what is going on in the real world.

*gets ice cream from freezer and puts on Sex In The City DVD*

We're all mad bitches. 😆

I couldn't possibly comment.

Some folk do, some care about it but can forget about it. I don't care ALL that much but I do want to win races, and being very skinny really helps. Looking better is a bonus mind!

Bad Mitches, you say?
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...and being very skinny really helps

How's that going? 😉

Thanks Don, that's nice

Still time to edit though

82kg this morning!

Still time to edit though

No Don, Leave.....it......its.....mesmerising.....

82kg this morning!

Is that good? I am 75kg at 5'7" and need to lose a stone for the record.

Bat Fastards...72kg and 180cms. 😆

Is that good?

Not bad for me. But then I'm more than a knot in a piece of string like don simon there 🙂

Bat Fastards...72kg and 180cms.

It's all muscle Don Simon. Srsly. 4realz.

There ain't much fat... Climb like a goat when the asthma doesn't get me and can hold my own on the flat, descend like a mincer mind. 😳

Ferriss who?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Ferriss

recommend me a diet!

I plan to lose 2 stone after I get back from Florida at the end of the month. My approach will be regular exercise and not eating too much crap.

I haven't got the patience for a fad diet...besides as has been said above, I don't want to lose weight then put it all back on again once I start eating normally.

I haven't got the patience for a fad diet...besides as has been said above, I don't want to lose weight then put it all back on again once I start eating normally.

I'm doing the hungry baby diet. I eat a lot of my meals with my one year old daughter. She is a greedy guzzler and eats my food. It appears that being a wriggly climbing monster means she needs a lot of energy. I also drink a bit less, although I was never a big drinker. Oh and transport said daughter in a bike trailer quite a lot.

I now weigh a stone less than I used to a year ago - 10 st 10 (i'm 5'10"). Also I have cut 10 minutes off my local quick 40 minute mountain bike ride which is nice.

Take up road riding. Cut out carbs completely; just eat meat, fish and salads. Cut down on meal sizes and give up seconds. I've dropped 3 kgs since Christmas and now weigh 72 kgs, I'm 6' or 1.82m. It makes hills much easier.

Simples.

have a look at [url= http://idaimakaya.com/HandbookofIntermittentFasting.aspx ]intermittent fasting[/url]. google it if you like. i wanted to lose my beer tum and love handles, but cant follow a regular diet as such, because basically i dont like healthy food 🙂 so i cant stick to it.
intermittent fasting may sound severe (and it did to me at first) but it suits me. theres different protocols to it, but the one that suited me was to have 1 or 2 X 24hr periods a week with no calories. then eat normal the rest of the week, beer, takeaways etc if thats what you usually have, altho you find that when you start seeing results, you tend to not want as much of those anyway.
24 hours???? no way i thought, but it was explained to me that once youve had your tea and gone to bed, when you wake in the morning youre halfway there. go without brekkie, few tummy rumbles, pretty hungry by dinner, but see it through til tea. then eat again. i was surprised at how easy it was for me. just plenty of water and a few black coffees to see me through. and it worked! lost about a stone and started seeing my abs again 🙂

i was a bit worried about 'body going into starvation mode, breakfast most important meal of the day/ its unhealthy' etc etc. but i looked into it and theres a lot of info out there which explains it can actually be healthier. starvation mode kicks in around 36hrs i think i read, so thats not a problem, and this way of eating can actually be healthier from an insulin point of view too.

anyways, like i said theres different protocols to it. some people do every other day but that was too much for me. once or twice a week suited me.

once i lost the weight, i decided i was prob a bit too skinny now, so im at the stage where i want to put some weight on again, but lean weight. so im following the [url= http://www.leangains.com/ ]leangains[/url] method of 16hr fast, 8 hr 'feeding window' every day, 'plus cals' when i lift weights, 'minus cals' when i do nowt.

might not be for everyone, but its working for me. dont think id want to eat any other way now really, so its obviously a sustainable way of eating.

cheers

This goin to be contraversal and there is a lot of associated BS with it but also a fair few positive results. Have a search for P90X. I'm going to tackle it after getting back from a week in the alps.

Have a search for P90X

Not a diet though. Also I wouldn't say it is controversial at all. P90X and [url= http://www.extremefitnessresults.com/insanity-workout.html ]Insanity Workout [/url]have been proven to get the job done. Ok, [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Horton_(exercise_instructor) ]Tony Horton[/url] is a bit of a cheesy in the way only our American friends can be, but if you stick with it you do get results without stepping in a gym.

Pricey though.

A vegan diet. But add meat and fish if you want

not true.. my stepdad has been a vegan for over 40 years and he's a right porker..

I don't think Mr Taylforth was being 100% sincere, Yunki.

aaaaaaaaaah...

I could be wrong though, the man's humour is:

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Take up road riding. Cut out carbs completely; just eat meat, fish and salads. Cut down on meal sizes and give up seconds. I've dropped 3 kgs since Christmas and now weigh 72 kgs, I'm 6' or 1.82m. It makes hills much easier.

bingo - exercise!

I could be wrong though