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For the first time I will be able to commute to work on my bike. Not too keen about using my MTB, but I do work on a secure site, so no issues regarding security/theft etc.
Budget of about £800. I have seen a Genesis CDA which seems to tick a few boxes, but would I be better off with a Hybrid? 10 mile round trip each day.
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Posted : 08/09/2021 6:42 am
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I’ve tried commuting on road bikes, mtb and a hybrid.
The hybrid with a rack and guards was the most practical. The Boardman hybrid I use has pretty good tyre clearance so will run 42mm tyres so doing a few bridleways or going along the river on the commute isn’t an issue.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 6:52 am
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Hybrid all the way, far more comfy and practical. Mine is a £150 second hand Kona Dew with SKS longboards.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 6:54 am
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If you can find one in stock

https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/15905565/calibre-stitch-urban-bike-15905565


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 7:05 am
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For me a commuting bike needs to be simple and reliable in all weather. I do 6 miles each way on what is effectively a hybrid.

Cotic road rat, SS, flat bars, 35mm tyres, full mudguards.

Fast enough but also able to survive potholes, curbs, a bit of off road in summer and fit suitable tyres in winter (including spikes).

I don't think many of the major brands like Trek offer good value for money. Id consider looking elsewhere. A gravel bike is probably ideal, after all, they are fashionable hybrids.

Merlin do an own brand gravel bike which looks good. Vitus on wiggle. Ribble. Dolan.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 7:15 am
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Yup,what they^^ said,the Boardmans and Kona hybrids are good vfm and often come up a bit cheaper second hand.Just picked up a Spesh Sirrus for Thing2 to use on his commute in to Edinburgh, full gaurds and a dynamo £350


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 7:16 am
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Genesis CDA would be totally fine also, and is more versatile IMO. That said my partner has a Sirrus and it's a really nice bike.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 7:19 am
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Full mudguards
Disk brakes (hydro or cable)
Pannier rack
8 or 9 speed drivetrain


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 7:24 am
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Hybrid with panniers and guards if its only for commuting.

Otherwise a gravel bike. I switched from a Kona Dew to a gravel bike as I used it more for gentle off road than commuting. And drop bars meant I could ride through the motorbike barriers on the towpath that flat bars didn't quite squeeze through.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 7:41 am
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Full mudguards

Disk brakes (hydro or cable)

Pannier rack

8 or 9 speed drivetrain

+ I would go flat bar

+ Lots of reflective tape and spokey tube reflectors

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Posted : 08/09/2021 7:44 am
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I’m having exactly the same consideration at the moment. Also want something for an about town, popping to the shops etc; so I don’t have to leave one of my nice bikes on a bike rack. 10-12 miles each way for me. Need something that can cope with the canal and do hills (800 feet on the way home, most of it towards the end). Also been looking flat bar; but considering hub and belt gears.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 7:51 am
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cannondale Mad Boy... obviously


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 8:11 am
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Hybrid for sure. Something tough that can take the knocks of potholes/curbs/cobbles etc. Steel frame makes sense, tougher and steel is real.

Good brakes essential. If disc must be hydraulic. Imho more important than for offroad, if car pulls out or pedestrian steps out you want to STOP in the shortest time possible.

Bit of a stealth ad, but I'm about to list a Marin Muirwoods XL. Hydro Disc brakes, shimano groupset, marathon tyres. Bought just before covid, pretty much sat in garage since and no longer need to commute! In many respects it's an ideal bike. I'd certainly be looking at something like that


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 8:17 am
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10-12 miles each way for me. Need something that can cope with the canal and do hills (800 feet on the way home, most of it towards the end).

Are we neighbours and work colleagues?

Not checked my lottery ticket this morning but Shand Leverett if the win isn't enough to sack off work entirely


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 8:19 am
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Shand Leverett

Hahaha. That is exactly what started me down this route. However I don’t think the 8 speed hub is enough gears. Otherwise definitely 🙂


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 8:31 am
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Genesis Brixton....

Its a CDA frame.

Has full guards.

Low maintenance hub gears.

Full rack for panniers etc.

Front tray for picking up supplies on way home.

Big enough tyres to handle gravel light offroad short cuts etc.

Disk brakes.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 8:39 am
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Full mudguards
Disk brakes (hydro or cable)
Pannier rack

Above has made my life easier.

I did think hybrid when i was considering commuting (12 miles each way, 900ft of climbing each way) but opted for the drop bar bike to try and get into road riding more. I don't have that much space so it needed to do more than one job.

Can then tack on a decent road ride when the mood takes me before/after work.

Went for a Spesh Diverge and has been a great all rounder, anything from pootle with the kids to C2C.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 8:53 am
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I used a Pinnacle Arkose (D1 via bike to work and yes I actually did use it to bike to work daily) comfortably for a couple of years, until commuting became a thing of the past. Couple of job changes later I just need to plan what to do with the dog and I might be doing the equivalent of a day a week with a nice commutable route of about 4 miles each way.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 9:02 am
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CDA is pretty much ideal IMO.

I prefer drop bars for long pedals, disc brakes are a must, cable or hydro only matters from an adjustment POV, cable brakes need fettling weekly at least in the winter.
Mudguards also a must, pannier or big saddle bag is best for carrying stuff.

I’d use the CDA and get something new for fun, riding your commuter at the weekends is no fun, the weekday slog takes the joy out of that bike.

Edit, thought you had the CDA already, still I’d get that over a hybrid.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 9:23 am
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Full mudguards
Disk brakes (hydro or cable)
Pannier rack
Drop bars
Lots of reflectors and lights
Good wheels
Not to heavy

The latter 2 are often ignored, but we often ride our commuter bikes more than our other bikes so make sure the bike is pleasant to ride.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 9:28 am
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I have a quite dull (looking), but rather reliable Voodoo Marasa.

It now has bar ends, full mudguards, a rack and a dynamo front wheel and B+M lights, and a very good Abus lock.

I did change the original tyres, grips and bars (the original tyres were like anchors, but the new version has different tyres).

ps if you want a 2nd hand one, you can pick them up for £150/ £250 2nd hand on ebay/ gumtree etc.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 9:39 am
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Full mudguards
Disk brakes (hydro or cable)
Pannier rack
Drop bars
Lots of reflectors and lights
Good wheels
Not to heavy

Good tickbox list. Missing only "comfortable frame to body fit".

Oddly enough, I found my touring bike had all that stuff (bar discs, I find cantilever rim brakes perfectly good) and is a top commuter ride.

Flat bars / drop bars = your personal pref, but, drops have more position options.

Ignore any bullpoop about what the bike is being called this year.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 9:44 am
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I commuted for years on a Gensis DayOne with a fixie gear. I finally relented last year and put flat bars, a pannier rack and 3 speed hub gears on it. It always had proper mudguards.

I don't like it as much as a bike now, but it's a far more practical tool for commuting and utility riding.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 10:17 am
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Mileages vary. OP What is your terrain and what are your expectations? Function, fashion, speed, luggage, visibility, utility, maintenance?

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I commute rural and towns on an old 531 touring bike on 30c. It’s perfect for the job, swift and low cost on maintenance/long-lasting on drivetrain. Back lanes and light gravel, side-streets and B roads it loves all of them. £80.00

I commute/fetch carry heavy town/urban stuff on an ugly and mechanically perfect step-thru Dutch bike that has internal gear hub, dynamo, integrated lighting, full length guards, integrated locks, big rear rack, giant sidestand, and puncture-resistant balloon tyres all as standard. It’s wonderful and zen, is always ready and requires normal clothing. Hop on and ride. Upright and highly visible to motor traffic while seemingly invisible to thieves. £couple of hundred

I’ve also commuted on many old MTBs/ATB’s with no issues. Schwalbe Hurricanes or Landcruisers.

Everyone’s requirements are different tho, some people like fashion, some like a perceived ‘status’, others are more race-commuters/roadies. So it’s difficult to recommend a particular type of bike. As mentioned even I (cycle commuted for 39.5 years as of now) use two diff bikes depending on the nature of the commute/utility.

If I had to have just one it would be the retro tourer because it’s light, strong, handmade quality, economical, unattractive, simple and the nicest place to be for many miles. But I’d lose the drops for street-work (I keep tourist bars and drop bars) and refit the drops for holidays. It would also get the dynohub uohrade I’ve been promising for ages now 🙄.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 10:28 am
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Not quite in budget but my I use my Fairlight Faran as my commuter bike. Guards, racks, comfy tyres and capable of pretty much by stupidest summer evening detour home.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 10:36 am
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Alternative to the Genesis offerings is steel tourer from Spa Cycles available in flat bar or drop bar and just about in the OPs budget.
https://spacycles.co.uk/m1b0s225p4009/SPA-CYCLES-Steel-Tourer-Flat-Bar-8-Speed

Edit: in stock too provided you are happy with black or green as red is sold out.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 10:44 am
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The latter 2 are often ignored, but we often ride our commuter bikes more than our other bikes so make sure the bike is pleasant to ride.

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I’m enjoying the 531 w/handbuilt wheels. Like a nice quiet magic carpet ride. Went out for 11 mile commute recently and was enjoying it so much that decided head out and explore/put on an extra 20+ miles on the return leg.

Remove decals, tie a Tesco bag on seat while locked and the dream becomes a beast that is nigh-on invisible to scrotes.

Only once bought a new bike expressly for commuting. It was a cheap yet overpriced hybrid and I very soon found myself hating every mm of it’s being. It was heavy (but then so is the Dutch bike, and yet that rides very nicely) with cheap wheels and just nasty bone-shaking dull-alu-girders hell. Bought it on HP and regretted every costly month I was riding the piece of junk. Sold on before paid for. Urgh. Replaced it with an old Raleigh Apex for 30 quid which was much more fun the same journey time 😎


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 10:49 am
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+1 to the above

Ye olde 531 steele touryng frayme solved the 'comfort + speed' problem a few aeons ago.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 10:59 am
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Above makes a great point, prior to the Faran I used a Dawes Super Galaxy Touring bike for years and years. Make great commuter bikes and seemingly indestructible! Mines has 3 x 9 Tiagra / XT mix and will climb anything with patience.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 11:03 am
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531, decent wheels, mudguards, rack, discs, older spec gears (9/10 speed)
Flat or drop bars to personal preference.
Consider a dynamo.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 11:21 am
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I commute around 5000 miles a year in all weather (snow is fun!) for the last 10+ years

Ive done it on my hybrid, mtb, road bike & gravel bike

In summer i just use the road bike (unless it rains) as soon as the weather turns bad i use the gravel bike till summer comes again

If i had to have only one bike for commuting it would be the gravel bike

Having disc brakes, 40mm tyres, mudguards and the option of adding panniers makes it perfect for commuting and can still be taken off road (or on road) after work rides


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 11:22 am
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Hahaha. That is exactly what started me down this route. However I don’t think the 8 speed hub is enough gears. Otherwise definitely 🙂

Sure they'd do you a Rohloff build.

Spa may well be a good shout, good for dynamo set up as well


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 11:24 am
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Wow, cheers for all the advice. Thank you so much guys. I have managed to locate a Spesh Sirrus x 3.0 which looks ideal (also found a Cannondale bad Boy 3). I'll get some mudguards. Lights are sorted off the MTB and I have a decent lock. Don't need panniers, just be using a rucksack. Good showers in work too, so happy days. Maybe I can work off some of this lockdown belly too.....


 
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Don’t need panniers, just be using a rucksack.

Yeesh, I just end up with a sweaty rucksack if I do that.

Panniers FTW.

YMMV, if you don't sweat.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 11:46 am
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Did rucksack for years, panniers / saddle bag was a revelation.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 11:56 am
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If going down the rucksack route then take a look at Dueter ones with the mesh panel that lifts the rucksack body off your back allowing better airflow

https://www.lordgunbicycles.co.uk/deuter-race-exp-air-143-backpack


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 12:02 pm
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Lights are sorted off the MTB

If those are proper off-road lights, do all the other road users a favour and run them on a very low setting and/or pointed down so they aren't melting the eyeballs of anyone and everyone coming the opposite direction. Multiple smaller lights, in a mix of steady and flashing are most effective. One of the rear ones should be high up, (top of rucksack or helmet mounted) too.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 12:13 pm
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Rucksacks are the devils work.

My biggest issue is one that no one else seems to complain about, but all of the extra weight of the pack goes straight through your arse into the seat.

Putting the weight on the bike rather than your body is so much more comfortable, I’ve tried a backpack a few times because, let’s face it, they look loads cooler. But once you’ve commuted for a while without one even the best backpacks in the world are just crap.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 2:14 pm
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If those are proper off-road lights, do all the other road users a favour and run them on a very low setting and/or pointed down so they aren’t melting the eyeballs of anyone and everyone coming the opposite direction.

Makes no real difference unless pointed literally at the top of the front wheel just in front. MTB and most everyday bike lights in the UK just dazzle. Turning them down just dials the dazzle down but doesnt remove it. Pointing them at the wheel is unsafe for you as a rider.

Cycle-lighting for road-use is virtually non-existent/an unaddressed issue in the UK, even this late in the day. 90% of lights reviewed on roadie forums are just unfocussed dazzly round beams with no cutoff or decent road coverage/throw, It’s a sorry state of affairs.

+1 also for rucksacks being shite. In short experience has taught me to buy a bike that rides well whatever the looks, rather than one rides not as well but looks spanking smart, and to also spend more on decent (pref dyno) lighting and luggage. Not a prob with OPs generous budget I realise, but as a general rule I’d recommend absolutely not skimping on lighting at least, even if it meant cost-cutting on the bike purchase as a result.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 2:17 pm
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Putting the weight on the bike rather than your body is so much more comfortable

All day long. Once I started doing this I would never even conceive going back!

As for lights, depends on your route, quite a bit of mine was unlit roads, so you want to be able to see where you are going as well as be seen!


 
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I think panniers and a dynamo are a must for regular commuting. Dependable lighting and less weight on your shoulders/sit bones mean you will arrive at work and home a lot more comfortable. Full length mudguards with long rain flaps will keep your feet drier, also help to minimise drivechain wear which is a big help in these times of component shortages! Flat/swept bars are nice for a head up position, I just put some Ritchie Kyote bars on mine which are super comfortable.

Also, get in the habit of packing the bike and organising your riding clothes the night before. It will make you a lot less likely to chicken out of riding when the weather looks manky!


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 2:46 pm
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My commuter was an Edinburgh Revolution 1*9. Enough gears for Glasgow.

Most stuff in one panniers. Light stuff in a small rucksack with a large Scotchlite Patch on the back.
Triple rear lights. 1 on seatpost. Two on aluminium tube attached to back of rack so lights were near handlebar width apart. To try an make the bike look wider at night . Whether it worked who knows but I had no near Misses at night.


 
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Did rucksack for years, panniers / saddle bag was a revelation.

Reluctantly, I agree.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 4:28 pm
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A few additional notes:

Panniers are a revelation. You'll try a backpack and be fine with it, but at some point you'll get curious and will realise what you've been missing.

Tyres are a hotly debated topic, but for me, I will happily forgo a touch of puncture resistance for a tyre that doesn't feel rubbish and/or has no grip (hello Schwalbe Marathon/Conti Gatorskin).

Lights have different needs to MTB lights, and to a degree, a few smalls ones are better than 1 big one. Their main focus is for you to be seen and not for you to see. I have 4 on the back (2 flashing, 1 constant, 1 on the helmet) and 3 on the front (one quite powerful one, one flashing and 1 other on my helmet). USB chargeable makes sense for the desk jockey's amongst us. I'm also a big fan of spoke reflectors as they give some additional visibility from the side.

And finally, a quite lightweight hi-viz gilet is a brilliant bit of kit. Can be worn in a huge range of conditions and IMO you're more likely to wear it than the standard bright yellow waterproofs.


 
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Panniers are a revelation. You’ll try a backpack and be fine with it, but at some point you’ll get curious and will realise what you’ve been missing.

Not for me,I really dislike panniers.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 4:53 pm
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It's STW so here's what I have - I'm very happy with my Whyte Portobello - Link to it

It is kitted out with mudguards, lights etc. Could take a rack but I'm never carrying that much.

It lived in a locker at the Park and Ride and was doing me well for the year up until Covid arrived. Not so useful as I've not been into the office since March 2020.


 
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why are people recommending dyno lights? I'm out of the loop because the last time I tried a set (1992) they just went off whenever you stopped at a junction, so weren't really ideal. But I imagine they've got better since.

I just use those USB rechargeable ones these days.

Also, what tyres do commuters on 26" wheels use? Need to be able to handle a bit of slightly muddy bridleway at times.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 5:23 pm
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Those highly reflective jackets you get now are, from a driver's point of view, totally amazing.

Also pedal reflectors. There's something about the motion that really jumps out in a busy environment


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 5:33 pm
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Hub dynamo lights are fantastic. Always work. Minimal drag. Modern German spec led ones have proper optics so light the road very effectively but don't dazzle. Built in capacitor keeps them on for a few minutes when stopped. And they are as near as you can get to being legal if it came to a court case (unlike 99% of lights).

The always on function has been a big plus - even in summer the daytime light is definitely more noticeable to drivers.


 
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Not for me,I really dislike panniers.

I’m not crazy about panniers except for getting big grocery shops or touring.

I still hate rucksacks more though, even moderately weighted. But I absolutely love my expandable rackpack with fold-out mini-panniers. Still using the same (Agu) one from 20+ years ago and no sign of it wearing out. Fit and forget, it just sits behind and doesn’t flap about or cause wind bother. Attaches with 4 velcro straps underneath and has a shoulder strap and rain cover if required. Expands upwards and the two mini panniers fold out, also via zipped with zipped openings on the panniers themselves. Inside is padded with a removable velcro panel to organise stuff if required. Not sure if Agu still make them but there are similar out there. I’d be lost without it for regular commutes.


 
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Also, what tyres do commuters on 26″ wheels use?

Ba

I used to use Schwalbe Landcruiser or Hurricane. The latter when commuting farm tracks and country lanes all winter. No good in deep mud or wet grass but gravelly/muddy patches are fine, plenty of volume for off-road excursions and yet still swift on the tarmac thanks to the slick centre-strip


 
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Those highly reflective jackets you get now are, from a driver’s point of view, totally amazing.

Also pedal reflectors. There’s something about the motion that really jumps out in a busy environment

The reflective strip on loads of commuter tyres is great too, makes you very bike shaped in the dark.


 
Posted : 08/09/2021 6:26 pm

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