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New kitchen ordered today.
Old kitchen is lock stock ****ed including the pans, The rivets on our current pans have rotted through. - 13 year old uncoated stainless steel pans that have done well.

Want to replace. Them with the new kitchen.

Have gone for an induction hob.

Don't want non stick

Must be dishwasher safe.

Would like them to be oven safe - current pots have rubber handle covers and are not oven safe

I have a cast iron skillet ....always walking on egg shells with it so don't want cast iron + doesn't like dishwasher.

What have you that fits this. - based on what we cook I think we are looking for a set of 4 pots and 2 frying pans / frying pan and a lidded casserole pan.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 8:15 pm
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We got a set of stainless steel copper bottomed pans fron cosco about 10 years ago, they have been brilliant pans, still look as good today as when we bought them


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 8:17 pm
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Our stainless pans are 21 years old, got them as a moving in present for the the wife's grandparents, both of whom have since passed on.

No use to you, but hey! ☺


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 8:19 pm
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Copper bottom no good.

You'd think it be easy to find a set of all stainless pans that look like they would last a while.....but they just don't make them like they used to.

Ironically our frying pan has faired the best of all our pans and it was the cheapest non coated stainless steel pan Tesco did..... Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned there.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 8:25 pm
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Head to Nisbetts, they’ll have something I’m sure.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 8:36 pm
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Never heard of them.

They have a few candidates.

Look good for seeing off intruders too


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 8:42 pm
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Nisbetts are mainly a trade supplier but sell to the public. They’re my go to for anything food or drink related.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 8:56 pm
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Old kitchen is lock stock **** including the pans, The rivets on our current pans have rotted through. – 13 year old uncoated stainless steel pans that have done well.

That happened on my pans. So I drilled out the rivets, and replaced them with stainless steel nuts and bolts. Has been working fine for a couple of years now. The rest of the pans are in decent condition, no need to replace them.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 8:59 pm
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Ive done that for now wife doesn't like it and I have to admit it does look pretty grim


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 9:07 pm
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Similar situation to you with moving to induction and old pans not being compatible.

Have splurged on a full set of Le Creuset 3 ply stainless pans. Family members have the same models and they still look good after nearly 10 years. Set up a price alert on amazon and got them at a good discount.
Pans are something used every day and having crap ones is frustrating, hopefully I'll get a lifetime of use out of these so the initial cost becomes less significant.

Now my quandary is what to do with my old, non induction compatible pans. Great quality Sheffield stainless steel ones that were bought for my parents as a wedding gift around 40 years, all my childhood meals cooked in them, then handed to my sister when my parents went induction, then on to me when she did.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 9:23 pm
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We were talking about this earlier. My brother,wasted money on overpriced Le Croushit stuff, designed for middle class ranges and country kitchens. Came to realise I was right, when I told him Tefal stuff just works. Doesnt cost stupid money so you can replace it without caring, but most Tefal stuff just lasts.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 9:27 pm
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Tefals what we have ATM.

It's lasted ok but not great. And has annoying features.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 9:34 pm
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I've got some Tefal "Jamie Oliver". No don't laugh they are very good. Also some Anolon and Le Creuset which are very similar. Good solid bases and heavily riveted handles.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 9:37 pm
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Le creuset TNS here, they might be NS but I assume you mean a coating that scratches off which these def never will, it's ingrain in the pan rather than a coating. Great pans but weigh quite a bit so I'm always thinking at some point I'll probs smash the induction hob. They're for life pans or premium brand pans to get your money back if you sell on.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 9:47 pm
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Dez, I agree if you're talking about mthe creuset non stick stuff, it's a bit shit, but my big enamel/cast casserole pan will survive the nuclear holocaust.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 9:51 pm
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My pans are 17 years old, John Lewis stainless steel jobs, used daily, dishwashed, faultless. They were a wedding present from, ahem, a previous wedding...

My mum is still using the pans I had before that, bought in a starter set from Ikea in 1999. I'm still using the non stick frying pan from that same set.

So I'll say John Lewis or IKEA.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:00 pm
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Hahahaha le crusette 375 quid for 3 Tri wall pans.

Lol.

No don't think so. 200 quid seemed alot for the nisbitts but can see them lasting for a long time

I'm not paying 375 quid.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:02 pm
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@trail_rat

Hahahaha le crusette 375 quid for 3 Tri wall pans.

Use CamelCamelCamel or another tool to track the price on Amazon and set an alert. The 3 pan set occasionally drops from RRP of £375 to around £225 which is much more acceptable. Pans for life.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:11 pm
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i think the reason the rivets go in a stainless pan is because they're aluminium, and dishwashers and aluminium don't mix

so...going forward, either get stainless rivets, or don't put them in the dishwasher...


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:19 pm
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Well the latter ain't happening who got time to be hand washing shit.

Bad enough I gotta hand wash the sharp knives.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:23 pm
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My stainless pans are spot welded, not riveted.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:24 pm
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When you say

Don’t want non stick

Must be dishwasher safe.

Got to ask the question why and why.

Non stick is your friend, it doesn't have to be Teflon. Scratch resistant is available. It's not great for all pans but it's absolutely the right thing for some.

Non stick does not preclude dishwashering.

Decent (non stick) pans should be easy enough to clean that a quick once round with a (copper or steel) brillo is easier than the dishwasher. Only If it's really baked on does it get both.

Buy pans that suit what you use them for, not a set. A cast iron skillet is absolutely the right thing for cooking steak, it's utterly crap compared with a 5 quid Teflon coated aluminium pan for frying an egg.

A SAUCEpan should be aluminum (or copper). You need it to cool quickly and retain little heat once off the burner.

Stock pots should be steel they should heat evenly and hold their heat over a small burner for hours without developing hot spots.

Frying pans and most daily pans should be aluminium, or, if you're feeling very flash, solid copper. At least one should be non stick. They should get hot fast, not hold much heat and clean easily.

There's little reason for not getting a non stick pan these days. Baletti do some nice reasonably priced ones, as do berghoff.

Oven-able is good for a decent sized frying pan and one or two decent sized casserole pans, with anything else you'll likely never use it in the oven. Get something that won't burn your hands.

Super market own "extra pricey" pans are, by and large, pretty good for the money.

Matching pans is like having a sofa that's the same colour as the dog.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:26 pm
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I’ve got some Tefal “Jamie Oliver”.

They were* great kit. Mixed material, suitable for the job at hand and hard wearing.

*then someone came along and said oh that milk pan doesn't have a copper base, that skillet is too heavy and now you have a set of pans which look lovely and cook like a 10 quid aldi jobs.

Bad enough I gotta hand wash the sharp knives.

You only need to hand wash pans for the same reason. Your sharp knives will do fine in a loose packed dishwasher with liquid detergent and no abrasives, as will your glasses.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:30 pm
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Sticking isn't something we have ever had an issue with.

And Because it will end up in the dishwasher

That's why we bought it - to wash dishes .we already avoid using the skillet because it needs a hand wash.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:32 pm
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Dishwasher safe if you must, aluminium, non stick, less than a minute from hob to draining board because it's non stick.

Honestly, if you're having to [edit] spend significant time to [/edit] wash it, it's because you are having a problem with it sticking.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 10:39 pm
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Procook professional stainless steel range for me. Very happy with them.


 
Posted : 03/07/2020 11:05 pm
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Honestly, if you’re having to [edit] spend significant time to [/edit] wash it, it’s because you are having a problem with it sticking.

No one mentioned significant time

I just do not want to stand and wash pots.


 
Posted : 04/07/2020 3:38 am
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Look for spot welded handles. We had two sets of similar quality stainless pans. The riveted ones were recently replaced because the rivets rotted and went loose, the spot welded look cheaper but are still shiny and more of less as new 15+ years on.

For casseroles the standard enameled Le Cruset is great and goes in the dishwasher. We also got given an enameled 'paella pan' to match which is like a large frying pan with a lid which is great and goes in the dishwasher fine. The similar looking enameled pans from supermarkets (eg Aldi) are probably just as good.


 
Posted : 04/07/2020 11:49 am
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Well the latter ain’t happening who got time to be hand washing shit.

Here at Maison Slowoldman we hand wash everything.


 
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Thumbs up for the Le Creuset SS. On offer a few years back at around £250 for the set of 3. very heavy but feel they will last an age. Plus they are a thing of beauty!


 
Posted : 04/07/2020 12:29 pm
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Ikea’s better stainless steel pans have a 25yr guarantee. We had our kitchen done last year and bought the pans from Ikea and they have been great and no reason to believe why they won’t last.


 
Posted : 04/07/2020 1:02 pm
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For frying, eggs, bacon, sausage I prefer the cheap disposable non stick asda special. Because they always get scratched and buying an expensive one is just a waste, especially if it goes in the dishwasher.
I have one reasonable non stick for steak, metal handled to go from hob to oven. Pots are potrs, and just a range of sizes is about as tech as it gets.
Im sure there are others here have worked on kitchens/hotels/restaurants will tell you that pro stuff is mostly in pot form cast alloy, and pans are stainless non stick, which cost under a tenner a go. We still have some of my mothers pots, in cast alloy she got as a wedding present, over 50 years ago, and they still get used for stocks and soups.
Same with knives. They have single knives costing near £100, and yet in every professional butchers hand is a victorinox boning knife costing £8, the steak knife is about £15 now(used to be a fiver and a tenner)


 
Posted : 04/07/2020 1:05 pm
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10 quid aldi jobs.

Don't knock cheap pans. I bought 2 sets of Kitchen Devil jobs from Tesco in the 90's. £60 for 6 saucepans in stainless steel

They are still going strong despite herself trying her best to burn the bottoms out by setting the gas to max and leaving it there for spuds that are at a boil!


 
Posted : 04/07/2020 1:17 pm
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Costco's Kirkland stainless steel pans would most likely fit the bill. I have them perfect on the induction hob.
When we bought them you got 2 saucepans, 2 frying pans, a casserole style pan (currently in use slow cooking pork in the oven), a stock pot and a saute pan.


 
Posted : 04/07/2020 5:07 pm
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For the vanishingly small number of people who care.

I went for a cusine pro set from house.co.uk their reviews and pricing structure seem like they are the on-one customer services version of the pan world....

Solid feeling pans though 5mm aluminium sandwich impact bonded heavy pans suitable for oven and dishwasher with glass lids (nisbets had nothing to fit that ...all had tin lids) and the Kirkland's were not dishwasher safe.-aluminium rivets

Got set of 3 pans -steamer - large casserole dish with lid and a frying pan that the same lid fits ...100 quid all told.


 
Posted : 01/09/2020 8:52 pm
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Uh, house.co.uk is British Gas is it not?


 
Posted : 01/09/2020 9:27 pm
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Extra set of UK's in there houseuk.com


 
Posted : 01/09/2020 9:35 pm
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Somewhere up there ^^^ someone posted that '...Le Creuset cast iron pots would survive a nuclear holocaust'.
I agree.
Doesn't really answer your question.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 1:31 am
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I bought some Judge pans about ten years ago, still going strong.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 6:45 am
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Just don't drop em on the concrete floor


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 6:46 am
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Got a set of 3 Swan saucepans that we had as a wedding present in 1990. Stainless, heavy base, not a mark on them.

Set of three cast iron skillets bought off amazon for less than 20 quid, properly seasoned they are as non-stick as anything out there. They are used daily, excellent for steaks, frying, omelettes, fried eggs and anything else you fancy throwing in them. They take about fifteen seconds to brush out with hot water, another four seconds to wipe dry. Probably the same time it takes to find space for them in the dishwasher.

Sainsbury's cast iron enamel casserole dish. About 50 quid. Perfect for stews and curries, and a fraction the cost of Le Creuset.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 7:38 am
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i actually have some of those sainsbury cast iron skillets good kit but different purpose.

I wanted dishwasher friendly as it will end up in the dishwasher.


 
Posted : 02/09/2020 10:19 am
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Meant to reply before trailrat, but in case you're not sorted yet

Vogue tri wall; I'd planned to get from Nisbets but found them cheaper at Catering Appliance in Kendal, bought mine online and arrived next day. Got one of the saucepan lids through Amazon though as they were about the only place in country that had them all in stock.

Using on new induction hob and they're great; heat/cool quickly and evenly, solid but not stupid heavy and they look good. Only possible downside is made in china if that's something that bothers you.

Edit:
The vogue standard stainless pans are good as well


 
Posted : 07/09/2020 1:02 pm
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I wanted dishwasher friendly as it will end up in the dishwasher.

My parents 40 year old le creuset has gone in the dishwasher for 40years

its ****ed but that due to the burnign and metal scraping the insist on subjecting it to all the time 😀


 
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but my big enamel/cast casserole pan will survive the nuclear holocaust.

Unless someone burns something to them or uses a metal implement. They're fragile as hell that's why I never use mine. Not to mention really flippin heavy.


 
Posted : 07/09/2020 1:14 pm

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