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Watched the first episode earlier.
Seems promising, more of the same but that’s a good thing.
I desperately waiting for tonight to watch it as my wife has said I can't watch it without her 🙄😔
From the trailer he's definitely been juicing it up.
I know they're stupid, but I love the books and I'm currently rewatching S1 to get my fix until later.
i really enjoyed S1..
agreed, stupid...but I like beefed up stoopid!!
DrP
Will have to watch the first one tonight
Light entertainment. All good.
Can feel a Friday evening binge in the offing w a big red
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Light entertainment. All good
This. Just what I could be doing with at the moment. However. . . also need to wait for the wife, but she’s out tonight. Sake.
Ahhh finally, enjoyed the first season so will try the new episodes later!
Loved the first series but I can't watch the first 3 episodes and then the rest week by week, so we're waiting till they're all out before binge watching!
I am still an old school watch one a week sort of person so the timings will work out fine.
My only criticism of the first series was that it was a bit slow at times. They could have fitted it in to four episodes. hopefully they will pack a bit more in to this one
Shame the books have gone downhill since Lee Child relinquished writing duties - I couldn't finish Better of Dead.
Shame the books have gone downhill since Lee Child relinquished writing duties
Is it the actual writing, or the overall plot?
If its the writing, I'm inclined to agree, there were some bits where I thought Lee's brother/random ghost writer/AI was clumsily copying the earlier book's style, and failing.
It just didn't barrel along like the others.
You normally don't have to think about the writing style which is what makes them so good. They just flow without any thought.
Plots have always been far-fetched! 🙂
Shame the books have gone downhill since Lee Child relinquished writing duties – I couldn’t finish Better of Dead.
I haven't read the books, only watched the TV series. I don't understand why people would keep buying books after the original author stopped writing.
I don’t understand why people would keep buying books after the original author stopped writing.
TV shows and movie franchises change writers/directors etc all the time.
Sometimes its a shark jumping dumpster fire, but many other times it isn't, and means your popular character gets to live on.
Shakespeare it ain't, but muffin man sums it up quite well with you shouldn't actually be thinking about the writing. The story should just flow into you.
Andrew Childs is the younger brother of Lee, so a close relation rather than a random taking over
TV shows and movie franchises change writers/directors etc all the time.
Novels and TV shows are a bit different though. With a series of novels, I'd expect the same author to be writing it. With TV shows, I'd expect a large team of writers and a director to interpret the characters. Tom Cruise was miscast as Reacher, the new tv show makes sense to me, despite never having read the books.
I don’t understand why people would keep buying books after the original author stopped writing.
I tried it - I didn't like it. Won't be buying another.
Still got lots of originals to read yet.
Light entertainment. All good.
Very much this - brain out action entertainment that the film industry seems (mostly) unable or unwilling to produce these days.
Just watched S2E01 - enjoyed the Terminator nod. 👍
Been at work today and then works Christmas thing. I'll get the first episode of S2 when I get in. Bring it on!
I enjoyed S1 although the only book I read I just couldn't get past the writing style.
I enjoyed the two Tom Cruise films as well although both could easily have been a Mission Impossible. 🤷🏻♂️
Watched the first 2 episodes tonight / love it! It’s been a long wait since season 1 came out.
Actually read 3 or 4 of the books since watching the 1st season - find them really enjoyable so far.
Terminator nod? More like a head butt
We know he buys clothes in charity stores, doesn’t have a phone, moves about, has no belongings, we get it!
Are we talking about the same thing here @houns? I ask because
We know he buys clothes in charity stores, doesn’t have a phone, moves about, has no belongings, we get it!
has no bearing on the terminator reference. I'll avoid saying what does so not to spoil it for others.
I liked E1, but I'm going to drag the rest out week by week now.
No, nothing to do with terminator, just the general story telling and having to continually refer to it
I half expected the thrift store employee to do the "wash day huh?" line.
Anyway.
Way more fun than that house of usher thing i haven't quite bothered finishing.
Anyone else getting a bit of Reacher fatigue? Loved the first season, but this one seems to be getting worse in terms of characters, script, acting etc. I'm on the verge of switching off if I hear "details matter" one more time.
Re. the mention of Fall of the House of Usher (which I enjoyed) It's funny how the actress who played the young Madeline seems tall and elegant, yet beside Reacher (as Roscoe) looks so tiny!
Anyone else getting a bit of Reacher fatigue?
yep, we’ve given up on it. Wooden acting, dreadful writing and nonsensical plotline. Series one wasn’t this bad surely? Bring back the Cruiser 🤣
Nah, I'm loving it for what it is, but it's not a patch on the books and he comes across a bit dumb, in a comedic way, in this as opposed to the books.
Was funny and surprising to see how into the daftness my wife was in this recent episode too, I kinda thought she watched it to humour me more than anything 😂
It's a preposterously stupid show that's entertaining. If you take it seriously, you're watching the wrong show.
Anyone figured out what changes was made to the first episode if season 1.
It was taken down for a few days and apparantly Amazon said it was due to changes being made.
Only watched the first episode of season 2 and compared to season 1 it seems a bit boring.
They should just have ditched the books and kept Finley and Roscoe.
Mrs Weeksy seems to enjoy it, not sure why 😁😁
Season 2 has been horrific for script and acting, so many dumb things being discussed trying to make the characters look clever, when it does the opposite, same with the scenarios they lay out for the action sequences, with more money you'd think this show would have taken off, but it's fallen backwards with the increased cast and lack of any decent writers.
IMO it's all done tongue firmly in cheek and they're obviously having fun making it, as did Lee Child writing the books. The clothes rail meme is growing like a Fast Show sketch, just a little more improbable and absurd each time Reacher needs a fresh change.
The clothes rail meme is growing like a Fast Show sketch, just a little more improbable and absurd each time Reacher needs a fresh change.
Yeh there's no way he's getting dressed, as a guy, never mind one of that size, in a UK charity shop 😂😂😂
I think I get the T2 ref, but a few years older...
It's v hammy, but S1 seemed a bit more together. For S2 I fell asleep half way through E2, woke up half way through E3, and it has made no difference to my understanding of the plot.
We're loving it, perfect big, dumb, Friday fun. It might help that we're all up to date and so only watching one episode a week. Dixon can crunch my numbers anytime.
His sizes will be XXXL probably easy enough in America for a different reason.
s2 isn’t as good too many cliches, such as diving to stop a bullet.
Still entertaining though.
It's a definite step down from S1. Not sure if it's due to the heavy reliance on flashbacks to the Army days or because the whole thing seems to be filmed in various stages of black and not quite black with added orange and teal hints in everything else.
Still, they've agreed a S3. 🤷🏻♂️
he popped up in the grauniads prize crossword....
Child's hero in Paris on vacation with clergy (9)
The audiobooks make it obvious how badly written the books are. The stories are fine, although he seems to get a lumber no matter where he is.
But "he said" , "she said" after every spoken line has become a joke in our house. We now do it to dialogue in the episodes.
The audiobooks make it obvious how badly written the books are.
Oh they're terrible. Short sentences. Every time. Hmm.
He hadn't done that. Yet.
I started reading one that was in a shared pile of books at some holiday let / B&B I was in once and nearly gave up after the first couple of pages.
S1 was promising. The cameo for Finlay on S2 was really well done and there's been a few good / amusing lines and in-jokes. The Sarah Connor reference was clever. But yeah, the rest is disappointing.
It's getting dumber and dumber, honestly think the screenwriters are all under 10
I started reading one that was in a shared pile of books at some holiday let / B&B I was in once and nearly gave up after the first couple of pages.
I read the first one a while back (after it had been on the telly) and I'm embarrassed to say that it became it bit of source of fun - in a Dan Brown Stylee, in our house...the "He said, she said" comment up there was one...They are bad, and not in a good way
"These could be fractions."
The show is ridiculous. Awful jokes. Bad acting. Some good action.
I'm still enjoying it.
Yeah, this penultimate season 2 episode today was pretty boring, nothing really happened, bar the flashback, which again just gets in the way of the actual story meant to be to be told, as there was no time or actual showing of them.
Always amazes me when a TV show with a decent premise or first season success seems to go to pot when more money is put in, this one is actually painful to watch now with the poor acting, script and flow.
Haven't watched the latest yet, but so far it isn't living up to the Graun's 4* review.
Forbes are taking a pretty critical stance on it:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/01/07/reacher-season-2-is-now-officially-one-of-the-worst-shows-on-tv/
The whole show is ridiculous but fun. I mean if they know the time and location of a huge terrorist arms deal that aims to cause the loss of thousands of lives, rather than turn up to deal with it yourself, why would you not just call the relevant national security services! Obviously that wouldn’t make great tv..
as an aside, I think I’m in love with Dixon..
Haven’t watched the latest yet, but so far it isn’t living up to the Graun’s 4* review.
Forbes are taking a pretty critical stance on it:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/01/07/reacher-season-2-is-now-officially-one-of-the-worst-shows-on-tv//blockquote >
That link is from the previous episode to this week, and this weeks is even worse, that episode had so many horrific action scenes and lines from the characters, it does pick up the annoying bits i found, with the police guy being chased through New York without any traffic and ending up in a dead end, the way he left the kid in the car whilst he went and got cover behind the car, so she's left right in the line of fire, with a couple of mm of material between her and the endless ammunition the baddies had, the way he then does a suicide walk to them, it's as if the writers and director haven't a clue how action scenes work.We're talking Samurai Cop levels of bad dialogue and bad action scenes here, how the hell it's done this i haven't a clue, even sadder, it'll be a success because folk like me keep watching hoping it will make sense!
These could be fractions.
Yeah for someone who is supposed a numbers genius it took her ages, I guessed straight away.
Season 1 is definitely better. Season 2 is watchable - but not as good.
I'm watching it, and I'm enjoying it, but there's some shocking acting going on, and in S2 I think he's... too big?
I mean I've read loads of the books, and he's a big guy, blah blah, but I never thought of him as a pumped body builder. And he spends too much time in S2 looking like things are getting to him. I think he was a better Reacher in S1.
Season one is definitely better and closer to the Reacher of the books, which are much better than the series.
Season two seems to have gone dumb big guy likes killing people, but I'll still be looking forward to season 3.
Dixon doesn't do it for me, more of a Roscoe guy 😉
BTW...The Reacher playlist on Spotify is good 😎
We're holding off watching 'the finale' as we're going to go back and watch S2 from the beginning a couple at a time over a few days.
But I totally agree S1 is far superior
If you’ve not watched the final episode don’t. Absolutely under no circumstances watch it.
The cliches come fast and they jump the shark too.
Just dreadful a shame as the first season was very good.
Not seen it yet, but from the massive road signs they've provided throughout about how it ends i fully expect the villain to be thrown from a helicopter, the guy who's been hiding the entire series to turn up and do good, so that Reacher shows why he always trusted him and so on.
Cliches wise, i again expect Bond levels of keeping good guys alive and karate chop style fighting, like a serious Austin Powers 🤣
I'm enjoying it. Not seen the last episode yet.
It's like no one here has read the book. Highbrow intelligent plot stuff it is not, but it is good fun 😎
Season 1 is definitely better. Season 2 is watchable – but not as good.
Bit like bands albums.
1st - great, draws on all their life experiences, ideas, it's new and fresh.
2nd - more of the same, there was a bit of money for better production, some songs about success
3rd - unless you go full late Beatles / Artic Monkeys / Hawkwind / Queen and make a high concept album, you're basically now just trying to re-hash the songs you wrote as teenager, only you're now in your 30's, you kids are embarrassed by your music and your wife's questioning which ex those love songs are about.
S1 probably went through a decade of re-writes on someone's desk waiting to get commissioned. S2 was probably done by committee in a few months.
I wonder if season two was affected by the writers strikes?
I didn't have the tolerance to get through even the first book but I enjoyed season 1 of the TV. Season 2 is dreadful though, I've watched about 4 and can't be arsed watching to see if it gets any better. From the rest of this thread I gather it doesn't!
It certainly doesn't ask much of the viewer, does it?! I am yet to fully catch up but I don't doubt how it is going to play out. Not big on nuance, this series.
The cliches come fast and they jump the shark too.
The whole thing is just a bunch of cliches and shark jumps stitched together, probably by an AI. But it's entertaining popcorn cliches. You might be taking it too seriously.
I think the flashbacks have broken things up a bit too much
Its all a bit silly, but season 1 wasnt exactly The Wire, Im still enjoying S2, we binged it all over this week and will be watching the finale with a few beers later!
It's big dumb forgettable TV fun to eat your dinner to isn't it?
Having watched both series to date I can't see me rushing out to buy any of the books.
The whole thing is just a bunch of cliches and shark jumps stitched together, probably by an AI. But it’s entertaining popcorn cliches. You might be taking it too seriously.
No, I’ve been willing to give the simple entertainment pass for the season. Trust me it gets really bad.
I was quite enjoying even season 2 till you lot started , , , , 😂
The wife did say the other night that she wasn't really enjoying it as much as the first series as it has got a bit "killy".
I'm still enjoying season 2 - it's well executed within its genre.
But I prefer the drifter storyline rather than this A-team type set-up.
No, I’ve been willing to give the simple entertainment pass for the season. Trust me it gets really bad.
Drac and his iPad speak the truth.
When I first heard they were using this book for the second series I knew it would be nowhere near as good as the first. The books where he’s by himself are the best ones. I can never remember the names but I’d like to see.
The one with the serial killer and the baths.
The one with Hook Hobie. A proper over the top villain.
The one with the ‘roided up giant in a house by the sea who, gasps, actually hurts Reacher.
The one where he becomes a farmhand for a bit.
The one where he gets kidnapped, hangs out with some right wing nut jobs and gets stuck in a tunnel.
Finally, the one where he gets trapped in the snow and (takes a breath) fights a midget Mexican drug Lord in some sort of silo that’s, bear with me here, somehow fortuitously designed to give the aforementioned mini Mexican drug lord the upper hand in a fight.
Anybody expecting highbrow TV or literature needs to look elsewhere. This is pure escapism with a super powered human version of the littlest hobo.
it was pretty comedic 🙂 though you know it's going to be pretty dumb. besides I'm biased as I did the motion capture of Robert Patrick for the Terminator 2 ride @ Orlando.
Watched the last episode earlier today. Geez, the whole season was bad. Perfect for when on the turbo. If you miss a bit on a tough interval you can easily fill in the gaps.
I enjoyed it. The finale even made my eyes leak but a lot does these days,
I enjoyed season 1 a lot. Thought season 2 was going to be a let down but enjoyed it too. 🙂
Just finished S2, highlight was still the Sarah Conner comment from earlier. Not a high standard.
Season 1 cheesy action
Season 2 more cheesy action
Enjoyed then both
Big guy hits bad guy..whats not to like.
I enjoyed most of it and for me less wondering about looking confused not doing much like the first series.
I will say Alan Richson looked ill on some of the close ups, like you get with vastly overweight ppl.
And at least i made it through the second series, didn't do that with shooter.