[Closed] Ravens shot on Cannock chase

Another dummy with a gun!
Probably thought they were Carrion Crows (which may also be protected?)
People who are granted licenses for guns should do an exam on bird ID so they know what they can & can't shoot. Mind you, not that it would bother some dopes, they just blast away at anything, & don't get me going about indiscriminate gamekeepers. The amount of raptors going missing on grouse moors is saddening. Golden Eagles in The Cairngorms, Harriers in North Yorkshire etc etc.

Another thing is, the area is small and has alot of people using it, the deer tails /dog walking / bike trails are literally everywhere so the gunners (theres also lots of deer poaching) could have a good chance of hitting a person.

I do and was there on that day.  Saw and heard nothing unusual.  Unfortunate because stupid bellends like that need to be stopped.

Probably thought they were Carrion Crows (which may also be protected?)
People who are granted licenses for guns should do an exam on bird ID so they know what they can & can’t shoot.

Illegal to shoot any wild birds without the correct individual license isn’t it?

There were the very general licences (still are in Scotland) for certain species including carrion crows with pretty much no conditions. They got challenged recently and currently its all a bit confused.
There are now more restrictive general licences. Carrion Crows are covered by a couple of these.

Golden Eagles in The Cairngorms, Harriers in North Yorkshire etc etc.

Harriers everywhere really. Raptor Persecution UK (original link) is an often depressing but also highly informative read about the levels of persecution.

This is a good read.

What can we to Red Kites? (legally that is).
A mates very elderly mum has been feeding a few and one has suddenly started attacking her and tearing her arm up.
I know she’s old and they attack dead things but she still manages to walk in her garden...

I’m all for a return of the kite and have had many happy afternoons flying a radio control glider in The same thermals as them and loved watching them. But when they get that happy around people due to a person being stupid that they attack, then we have to think about the baby badgers.

stop feeding them? Get advice from experts ( they feed kites in some areas)

Raptor Persecution UK (original link) is an often depressing but also highly informative read about the levels of persecution.

Yes I see that on the Birding UK & Ireland page on FB, tis often a sad read.
Funny how not much gets persecuted where there's no grouse moors.

In scotland its now proven and accepted that grouse moors are centres of criminal wildlife persecution - not all but many of them.

A mates very elderly mum has been feeding a few and one has suddenly started attacking her and tearing her arm up.
I know she’s old and they attack dead things but she still manages to walk in her garden…

That’s the problem when humans interfere with wild animals, especially predators; they’re smart enough to learn very quickly where free food is offered, and they’ll try to take it from the hand, if people are holding on to the food, but all raptors have very sharp and powerful talons, and can cause a lot of damage, especially a bird with a wingspan of over a metre! It’s why falconers wear very thick leather gloves.
It’s not attacking her, as such, it’s eager to get the food before another bird muscles in on its territory!
If she wants to feed them, have a table put up that the food can be put on, then there’s no danger, most places, like Red Kite in Wales, where mass feeding takes plac, the food is tossed into the air for the birds to catch on the wing, which is spectacular to watch.