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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28878432


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 11:55 am
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Thanks, just purchased 17. That should see me out.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:11 pm
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Does seem a bit of a pointless regulation, if your vacuum has less suck, you just spend longer hoovering, so total power used will be unchanged.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:18 pm
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Does seem a bit of a pointless regulation

Not really, if it makes them more efficient then all the better.

Dyson has got a point regarding landfill of bags though.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:20 pm
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Yup, and even more time hoovering come 2017, when they'll have to be less than 900W. And will they be more than twice as durable? probably not, so you'll have to replace them more often.

where's that rolly-eyes emoticon?

Edit: 🙄


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:21 pm
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Or you can come to me. I'll sort you right out!


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:22 pm
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somebody'll start selling them as ventilation fans or something - like the 100w bulb story that I hope is true 🙂


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:25 pm
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Not really, if it makes them more efficient then all the better.

If that was the case then the directive should have specified an Air Watt per Electrical Watt minimum at a percentage dust bag fill.........


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:27 pm
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It's not just Hoover's being banned...the regs apply to all vacuum manufacturers 😉


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:28 pm
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An example of pointless and counterproductive interference from the EU.

In the future if I want a high powered vacuum I'll buy one from outside the EU. FWIW I recently bought a supposed high powered 900W vacuum and it's rubbish, it needs more power.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:30 pm
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You gotta be kiddin'!!!
That really is pointless beurocracy at its best.
In fact I'd go so far as to say that it really sucks, or maybe not 🙄


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:32 pm
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Does anyone know whether more efficient motors can make up the power deficit? If so, then presumably that's what they're driving at.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:34 pm
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I don't have a hoover but what's next? Are they going to limit the size of tv screens or computer displays? Limit power of kettles, microwaves or electric ovens? Seems strange to target the hoover. Is this the start of a wider programme?


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:35 pm
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Is this the start of a wider programme?

It's been going on for years, car emissions, light bulbs, energy ratings on fridges etc


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:37 pm
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There's no point anyway, mine just gathers dust.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:51 pm
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Are they going to limit the size of tv screens or computer displays?

More likely that they'd limit the power consumption which would force companies to provide more energy efficient products if they still want to provide large screens.

Except of course that 60+" TVs are a basic human right 🙂


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:54 pm
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Or you can come to me. I'll sort you right out!

Are running a hoover chop shop? I can imagine back street shops selling Hoovers with huge motors, "suck the nails out of the floor with this bad boy"


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 12:59 pm
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Ta

ordered the one I was thinking of. 2200w of german suction designed to last 20 years... Should see me out 😛


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 1:29 pm
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So are we seeing the beginning of the end of the hoover as status symbol? 😉


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 1:53 pm
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Does anyone know whether more efficient motors can make up the power deficit? If so, then presumably that's what they're driving at.

I hope you're not hinting that we should all get some facts before forming an opinion.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 1:58 pm
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This is good news. Too many people associate a more powerful motor with better performance. A vacuum cleaner is all about air flow so this will force manufacturers to focus on design to do the job and not a sticker that says 2200w.

I work for a company that manufactures vacuum cleaners and contract cleaners have been buying excellent 900w machines for a few years now.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 1:59 pm
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Henry all day


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 2:00 pm
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There's no point anyway, mine just gathers dust.

That might have been funny if Tim Vine hadn't just won the [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-28838287 ]Edinburgh Fringe Festival Best Joke of the Year Award[/url] with the same joke two days ago 😉


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 2:03 pm
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if your vacuum has less suck, you just spend longer hoovering, so total power used will be unchanged.

Not necessarily. Do you hoover to a predetermined level of dust left in the carpet? I doubt it!


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 2:06 pm
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Edit. Didn't see johndo's post.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 2:08 pm
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EU directive.........led by the Slovacks...
IGMC


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 2:10 pm
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Henry all day

Yeah it is probably worth pointing out that the much-revered Henry has a 580 W motor
http://www.numatic.co.uk/products4.aspx?id=366

And even their Commercial Grade ones are well below 1600W.

Likewise none of the Dysons are affected.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 2:22 pm
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Yeah it is probably worth pointing out that the much-revered Henry has a 580 W motor

Didn't know that tbh, all I know is that it's the best vacuum cleaner i've owned by a million miles (and i've had dysons, 'high power' hoovers etc etc.)


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 2:28 pm
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20 year old second hand 500watt Oreck vindicated! Looks like *. sucks like *! 🙂


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 6:52 pm
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and end of year you cant buy or import a diesel locomotive,unless it has all sorts of fancy expensive anti pollution stuff fitted, but 45 year old ones are ok as theyre being brought back to life,because nobody has a stock of the newer ones for sale or lease.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 6:59 pm
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Woohoo Henry survives. The only thing to vacuum up all the crap from my car.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 7:22 pm
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Henrys are shit.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 7:55 pm
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Damn that meddling EU lot another law that's good for you.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 9:25 pm
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Henrys are shit.

Mary, Mary, quite contrary...


 
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Posted : 21/08/2014 10:20 pm
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The reason behind this issue is several young Italian Men are being admitted to hospital with dick injuries.
The lesser suction will reduce the amount of hospital admissions.


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 10:51 pm
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The reason behind this issue is several young Italian Men are being admitted to hospital with dick injuries.
The lesser suction will reduce the amount of hospital admissions.

Mumma Miele!


 
Posted : 21/08/2014 11:26 pm
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My product design lecturer and head of the design school worked for Electrolux for years. Two thing he say:

1) IT'S NOT A HOOVER IT IS A VACUUM CLEANER
2) It's about airflow, powerful motors are just wasteful and bad airflow design. Henry is an example of that.


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 7:28 am
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1600W?!

in a vacuum cleaner?!

**** me.

the best vacuum cleaners have a rotating brush, rated at around 200W, which shakes the carpet a little, allowing the dust, etc. to be gently sucked away.

totaly power : around 700 W.

try a vorwerk, or a sebo.


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 9:21 am

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