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loved the stuff he was doing years ago but now he is unsufferable and his music sucks
Amend the band name to anything anyone liked over the last fifty years or so.
I should get back to your Status Quo or Cliff Richard records if I were you, before you give yourself an aneurysm.
Sucks what?
I'm confused, does Josh Homme suck, or QOTSA?
If you don't like his/their current music, have a read of this and it might give you some insight why he's maybe gone down a different path
If a musician spent his whole career churning out exactly the same old stuff, it would be a long and boring road. Musicians change with the times and their experiences.
I don't particularly like the path Arctic Monkeys took, but it doesn't mean they suck, they are still fantastic musicians
Amend the band name to anything anyone liked over the last fifty years or so.
Shed7 have the number one album now apparently so must be doing something [s] right [/s] popular.
He lost his way when he decided to kick a lady photographer in the head
I loved PJ Harvey's first 5 albums. Loved so much.
I've never managed to listen to all of white chalk. So whiny 😔
Artist have to change, I don't need to like it
I love entroducing by DJ Shadow.
The rest of his stuff no so much. It's fine.
I heard an interview with him, he said what "do you want me to do, mak entroducing again?"
Yes that is exactly what I wanted, but I can see why he wouldn't want to.
I think In time new roman is a great album. Saw them twice live last year and they still smash it! Musics all subjective though, one mans meat is another mans poison an all that.
I love Songs for the Deaf, but more for Grohls drumming!
Generally preferred Kyuss to qotsa. Love the sludgy riff vibes.
I embrace change in an artist.
Looking forward to the new stuff from Joe Cocker.
Yeah I kind of went off QOTSA ages ago after they were my favourite band for years. They had 3 absolutely banging albums culminating in the perfect Songs for the Deaf. Everthing after that has been really patchy.
I saw one of their first UK shows then another 6 or 7 times after that. I've seen them be 'best live band ever' but I've also seen them drunk and fat and witless.
I'd like them to be good again but the latest album isn't the one for me.
I didn't know anything about his personal life. Sounds rough.
Inspired me to give Times new Roman a spin this morning, thanks.
You have to remember that while SFTD is a brilliant album, Grohl says he was ready to give up on music before being asked to do the drums for it so the album is also responsible for the utter turgid second rate back of a pub dad rock of all Foo Fighters albums have been since.
Tried to get tickets for Queens in Halifax but the process was so long winded I gave up.
I realised I had never knowingly heard a QOTSA song so went on spotify to have a listen. sounds like any one of a dozen bands - nothing much there at all for me. Not great not awful just meh! Just seemed like a collection of rock cliches
Of course they could still create a great live show as that is about more than just the tunes.
IIRC they have been around a while so I guess others have been copying them?
Any particular song / album I should try?
Rated-R is varied, interesting and certainly not a collection of rock cliches.
Songs for the Deaf is a chugging, pshychadelic banger with not a bad moment on it.
turgid second rate back of a pub dad rock of all Foo Fighters albums have been since.
Yeah, have never heard anything from the Foo Fighters to merit the adulation. Haven't tried hard enough perhaps.
TJ - try Blues for the Red Sun by Kyuss, Rated - R or Songs for the Deaf by QotSA. I think rock cliches is unfair, they are all visceral, powerful rock/metal. Not exactly introspective or reflective listening and for the love of god don't pay too much attention to some of the lyrics 😂
Just thinking about fonts now. Ariel bold. Comic sans. Impact regular. Bebas nue. Montserrat.
Does the Times New Roman font reflect the music on any way? Why would you call your album that? Google/nme says it's dark sludgy brutal. Could give it a try I guess!
Bit like TJ I've never knowingly listened to them.
I’m still happy with them. Saw them in Manchester and really enjoyed it.
I listened to most of "songs for the deaf" as much as i could tolerate. Still sounds to me like a collection of rock cliches. Admittedly a different one for each song unlike say ACDC 🙂
I guess I was spoiled / ruined by being a big metal / rock fan back in the day and hearing most of the greats back in the 70s?
ah well - I have had a lot of great recommendations of music on here but that one is a miss for me
Still sounds to me like a collection of rock cliches. Admittedly a different one for each song unlike say ACDC
You're right there. AC/DC have two songs.
I love Songs for the Deaf and I don't expect any band to continue to amaze/entertain me forever. Their taste/direction changes and mine does too, so it's natural to diverge. Unless of course we are talking Zappa.
Zappa - I loved Joes Garage back in the early 80s but hadn't heard it since until recently. I tried again and time has not been kind to it or I have grown up. 🙂
Any particular song / album I should try?
Ginger Elvis dropping Björk lyrics over a riff Page himself would be proud of.
Ta. After the first 45 seconds I thought "this is going to be good" but the rest of it let it down. Certainly not rock cliche tho and at least trying to go somewhere different. Ended up a bit prog rock ish 🙂
Nope - I think they are not for me. Not crap and I can see why some folk like them and much better than most modern metal / rock just Meh for me
Ta anyway
quite agree waderider which is why i gave this lot a try. I have been introduced to a lot of good music thru STW
Great first comment 😂
Saucer of cream for Mr Grips please
*shocked face*
Admittedly a different one for each song unlike say ACDC
Yeah they have what? One tune? I can stand them right up until the 'singer' starts strangling cats. Music for people who don't like music.
Slo burn > Unida for post Kyuss bands in this house.
Foos were ok for the first two maybe three albums but totally went through a period where they sounded like a Foos cover band for a while.
I quite like Times New Roman and think Like Clockwork is their best effort after Rated R and the self titled one. Still think Kyuss were better though. Welcome to Sky Valley being my favourite. I even have a soft spot for And The Circus Leaves Town.
Like any other rock band from any time period, they’re not as good as Clutch.
New album is fantastic. lyrically it's genius and sonically too. Saw them live last year and it's in the top 2 or 3 gigs I've ever been to.
They are a band that's evolved massively over their career and for the better.
Zappa – I loved Joes Garage back in the early 80s but hadn’t heard it since until recently. I tried again and time has not been kind to it or I have grown up.
Luckily I haven't. Though I have listened to great deal of Zappa post Joe's Garage, including his classical offerings with Ensemble Intercontemporain under Pierre Boulez and Ensemble Modern.
Anyway back to QOTSA, this is when I first became aware of them and shouted to my OH "get in here quick". On Later with Jools Holland.
Like any other rock band from any time period, they’re not as good as Clutch.
Elephant riders and PRF could almost be by different bands, both class albums but their latter work never did it for me. Also my old bassist left a mildly abusive message in Neil Fallon's answering machine. I think it was he's married to the sister of a guy in a band who we did some shows with and we used to hang out with a lot, she was complaining that they didn't play the UK enough and they should take us on as support when they did come over, she was hammered, we were a terrible band, the guy laughed and said why don't you tell him yourself, rung his number and handed tye phone over.
Oh and I've shared a stage with Josh Homme, I wasn't supposed to but after interviewing Nick Oliveri (name drop central tonight) I got lost on the way out of the backstage dressing rooms at the Leadmill and walked on stage while he was finishing soundcheck, I panicked and instead of turning round and walking off, walked right in front of him and jumped off the stage, kind of fell over then sprinted out the door...
Oh man that video is a reminder of how awesome QOTSA were with Nick Oliveri. They lost so much when they kicked him out. I saw them about 4 times with Nick.
I just had to check when I first saw them and it was here... https://www.concertarchives.org/concerts/big-day-out-uk-1999
The best time was in Manchester when we got to the gig so early that there was no one around but we could hear sound check so we just walked towards it. We found the room with all the lights off and the band on stage incuding Mark Lanegan just playing full songs. 4 of us shuffled in and sat right at the back and had a 20 minute or so private gig. It was amazing. We dipped out to find the rest of our crew and tried to guide them back in but by then the barriers were up and lots of staff milling around.
It was good while it lasted.
while SFTD is a brilliant album, Grohl says he was ready to give up on music before being asked to do the drums for it
That's really interesting because
a) I'm pretty sure I read him saying that recording the drums for it was a right pain in the arse, as the producer insisted on recording the drums and cymbals separately for every track, and it was a really tedious process
b) so why did he go back to making middle of the road stadium bilge instead of doing more drumming?? I really love his drumming. His songs.... Meh
A mate had a beer with him backstage at Glastonbury one year, and emerged with yet another story to add onto the pile of 'yeah Dave grohl is just a really nice bloke' evidence.
Ah big day out
Placebo: sorry we're late, I was sucking off Marilyn Manson.
Everyone in the crowd: looks at their watch & starts chanting "you're on five minutes early, on five minutes early".
why did he go back to making middle of the road stadium bilge
He probably enjoys it plus he does enough side project stuff to scratch any other itch (Them Crooked Vultures, Probot, NIN etc)
Been playing this on repeat in the kitchen recently when making dinner
The current stuff is different from the earlier heavy stuff & I love Kyuss too, some of the new stuff I like.
Almost forgot to listen to these today.
This reminds me of a Dave Grohl story.
I used to be good mates with a band who had some success. They have a song that still gets played on 6 Music fairly regularly about 15 years later.
Anyway the Foo Fighters were headlining whatever festival they were playing and somehow they got speaking to eachother. They realised that they were both scheduled to play the same festival in Germany or something the next weekend so instead of driving there in the rusty Sprinter they were invited onto the Foos private jet.*
They all came home with loads of 'Dave Grohl is the nicest bloke ever' stories.
*Their poor tech crew (2 lifelong mates) had to pack the van and do the drive on their own.
Any negative opinions on music are bunk as taste is subjective. I don’t care what other people dislike, I care a little bit about what people do like as it may introduce new music to me.<br /><br />
My entire attitude to music neatly summed up. Thank you!
I think they are not for me.<br />Obviously, you’re far too old. You need to be in the 40-50 age bracket.
I’m 70 this year, I’ll let you know when I’m too old. Considering looking for a returned ticket for Tool later this year.
I like what the Foos do. I don’t always like what QOTSA do, but that’s OK, I don’t necessarily like everything on a given album by anyone who’s music I otherwise enjoy; there’s only one Dire Straits album I’ve ever bought, and there’s one track on that that should have been left off, the beauty of digital recordings means it’s dead easy to leave off.
I see it's turned into a bit of a thread since I went to work this morning. Might as well add my two penneth seeing as I was a bit of a QOTSA fanboy/obsessive way back in the day.
Josh has always said that he never wanted to repeat himself musically but always wanted to move forward and that is what he has done. So a band that is constantly changing/evolving is bound to leave some people behind along the way, including me to a certain extent.
I discovered them around Rated R when they were starting to gain wider exposure and then SFTD hit and I was completely sucked in. That line up and those albums really resonated with me at that time in my life and set me off on a journey into the back story, first album, Kyuss etc. and that whole desert rock scene.
That period was followed by a line up change/change in style and we got LtP and EV both great albums with a few cracking songs on each but for me not quite the QOTSA of old.
Quite a few years passed before Clockwork was released and to me that was a major departure from the older QOTSA style but despite my inital hesitance it really grew on me.
Then we got Villains which I think I've maybe listened to only two or three times and can't see me listening to again really and I'm struggling to get into ITNR which despite what Josh said about repetition, to me owes a lot to Them Crooked Vultures.
Despite the fact that I'm struggling with their latest stuff I still go to the live shows, latest being the Manchester gig that @binners and others from here were at. I've seen them many times over the years with various line ups and never had a bad gig.
@tjagain it's not an age thing, I'm sixty and probably grew up on a lot of the same rock bands as you but if it's not your thing it's not your thing. Simple as that.
@thepodge I've met various QOTSA members over the years but the highlight of my name dropping has to be singing harmonies with Nick Oliveri on his Death Acoustic tour in York.
I bought their latest album and I quite like it. Although the idea that each album is a move onwards from previous is a bit of a stretch, this latest one is very much like Lullabies to Paralyze (and I liked that also fwiw)
No one knows is an absolute banger 🙌🏻
That Grohl side project list is missing Dream Widow (:metal:)
I vaguely remember seeing QOTSA at Reading festival. Got a couple of their albums, they were a good distraction from crap like Limp biscuit at the time. Although I may have years confused.
I remember Lost art being played a lot.
Around that time I think the usual rock/metal suspects were on a bit of a lull. Might just be me though.
OH loves Burn the Witch.
Not listened to the recent stuff, might have a gander.
Misread that as OH loves Burning Witch and thought we'd suddenly gone a LOT heavier & way more interesting.
I would tend to agree, feels like they've slowly been getting worse since SFTD. Like Clockwork grew on me a bit but Villains and ITNR don't have anything for me. Saw them in Birmingham last year and was so bored by all the new stuff live, even though as a band they're on top form.
I get that bands have to evolve and can't put out the same album every time, but a lot of the time they lose that initial magic they once had. Arctic Monkeys last few albums are dreadful compared to the first few imo.
Artistic exploration and evolution is a good thing but getting old and running out of ideas is far more common.
It must be hard to write interesting and energetic rock & roll when you're a 50 something millionaire living in Malibu.