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Had an interesting afternoon...whilst sat in car was punched in face by the neighbour of a good friend.
Basically they live down a country lane, and his car was coming the opposite way to me...its gravel and very dusty on thge verges. I pulled over to let him through, and my tyres locked up as i braked and pulled over, doing no more than 10- 15mph. He got out his car and walked towards mine, so i let the window to say 'lovely day' usual stuff, with that he simply decks me and starts a rant about me speeding and being a danger to the kids down there (one of them being mine!). I didnt have a clue who he was at this point. By the time i realised what was happening he was clearly sorry and apologised..i was too confused by the whole situation to bother lamping him back, and simply said OK, he apologised again and drove off. Spoke to my mate who was stunned when i told him, explained that it is his neighbour, and that he is normally a really quiet kinda guy.
I havent totally decided whether to report to to the Police, i dont particularly want to ruin a guys life if he was simply having a crappy day and i happened to be the wrong guy in the wrong place, and it would make my mates relationship awkward to put it mildly (he again apologised to my mate when he challenged him about it all)....on the other hand going round randomly punching people is really rather not on. Im trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, he did apologise to me directly and via my mate, but im not totally decided.
So what would you folks do, beyond the obvious wee/shoe interface and Bomber ownage? Also is there a time limit to how long i have before i report it?
Odd. What made him apologise?
Well if your account of events is true, I would report him, flying off the handle like that needs dealing with.
Don't report him. It will make life a bit harder for your mate...
Presumably he was (nearly) as shocked as i was at the randomness of it all. He clearly had the red mist come down from somewhere, and obviously regretted it as soon as it had happened.
I wouldn't stand for that. Apology or not doesn't mean he can smack you for the hell of it!
Bombers
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It is the STW way.
He was obviously haveing a bad day, made worse, when you find out he has just .................
sounds like you were speeding, yea just bloody admit it. this doesnt excuse his actions though but i wouldnt waste my time reporting it. you think it might help somebody or something and make the world a better place but it wont, it will just waste everyones time and money and wont actually achive anything but make yours and his lifes more dificult.
Go round his house, slash 4 tyres and break windscreen, then knock on his door and say sorry. Everything is OK then, no?
Hang on...
Was it near a zoo? He might have been writing an essay.
You should have hit him back so instead of phoning the police, knock on his door and do the same to him.
yes then apologise and then go apologise to your mate 😀
if yod did not hit him then it is too late for violence IMHO
If he apologised and too your mate why report it?
Did he really hit you hard enough for you to want to,get him a criminal record, for assault,to possibly loose his job,income and his wife/partner.
Or was it a slap, more than a full anger punch.
It's assault report it,nothing much will happen but at least he'll think twice before he does it again.How do you know he doesn't make a habit of it,he may well be giving people slaps all the time & getting away with it by saying sorry afterwards........
He sounds like an unhinged nutter.
You sound like a bad driver.
All square, Happy days 😉
Go round his house to say hi and you hope he is ok. It will confuse him but also totally embarrass him as it will remind him he is a turd
Go round and tell him you'll not report him if he lets you punch him.
Project, it was full on bunch of fives, i have the swollen cheek and cut lip as (unwanted) evidence...however it is the criminal record yada yada that i dont want to lumber someone with over a temporary loss of sanity.
As for being a bad driver, i aint perfect, but any road where my daughter, or any other kids, are possibly playing, i take it easy.
GeoffJ, i like your style.
He lost the plot for a second, apologised and apologised to your mate, if he isnt normally a thug, go visit him tomorrow andask why he hit you.
He could have just rammed you off the road.
If you do get to punch him, you need to make sure you can actually throw a punch.
Get a bullworker, and go back in 8-12 weeks. Shake that bitch down.
MTFU, stop being a pussy and go and punch him back. Didn't your mum ever teach you how to deal with bullies?
If you don't you will feel like shite for letting someone walk over you like a bitch, then it will happen again and again.
I'm struggling with the wheels locking at 10-15mph bit but a quick shout and swear from him should have been enough. I'd report and expect to get reported if I behaved like that.
The time to have lamped him back, with excellent justification, has passed. So I'd leave it be.
Randomly punching strangers in the face because you don't like their driving sounds like a risky enterprise to me. If he makes a habit of this he'll end up hospitalised - it would be Christmas come early for some folk getting a slap like this - green light to get out and hammer shite out of him.
report.
why is this being debated?
If smogmonster was driving like a **** then mr punchy should have reported him to the police not got out of his car and ****ted him.
what if smogmonster was driving carefully but a raoul moat type with a car load of bangsticks?
During his apology to your friend he most likely made admissions and therefore the police will want to take a statement from him. Should it proceed to court your mate could well be summonsed to attend and provide testimony.
There's no time limit as such - but with the passing of time evidence diminishes and memories fade. For example the injuries you have will heal and be less visible/impactive as the cops will want them photographed.
I'd be inclined to report him - may be just ask the local cops to go round and have a word in his shell if you don't want to make an 'official complaint'.
I'd be inclined to report him - may be just ask the local cops to go round and have a word in his shell if you don't want to make an 'official complaint'.
That's got to be the best advice. And to be fair you'd probably be doing the geezer (and others) a favour. He's clearly got a problem which he needs to recognise and deal with.
Don't report him to the police. If you are genuinely angry and pissed off then go and find him. Tell him you understand why he was angry and that he was right, then punch his ****en lights out. If it's not that important, leave it.
Job done.
I'd suggest you go and talk to this guy - possibly arranged by yr mate in advance and also with him in attendance to avoid it turning nasty again
That way you find out what was really going on and yr mate doesn't have any unresolved "issue" left between him & neighbour
If he kicks off [u]unreasonably[/u], kick the living shit out of him, obviously
"i dont particularly want to ruin a guys life"
Do you often have an entirely disproportional reaction to people making you feel like a pussy? What are you going to do? Walk into the police station with tears in your eyes and tell them about the bad man bullying you?
Grow up!
"That way you find out what was really going on and yr mate doesn't have any unresolved "issue" left between him & neighbour"
Alternatively, he may actually have a worthwhile life that he is busy living rather than acting as though he is fourteen.
Just a possibilty! 🙂
I agree with Gary, the moment has passed. I might consider reporting him, definately would if he wasn't a mates neighbour. You should ask the mate how he would feel about you reporting him.
yea, go tell tales that the nasty man hit you for doing skids ... good grief, either grow some nuts and punch him back or dont.
IMO of course 🙂
Do you often have an entirely disproportional reaction to people making you feel like a pussy?
That's an unnecessary slur against the OP. This geezer physically attacked a complete stranger, and not in self defence. Personally I would be happier if people who do that sort of thing weren't allowed to walk (or drive) the streets with impunity.
go round and see him.. take a four pack of beers.. ask him why he's so upset and if there's anything you can do to help..
reading through this thread it's no wonder this country is in the state it's in..
report him
bad day or not, you can't just go around smacking people
I'd love to punch people on a daily basis, but I don't
or learn to duck next time 🙂
[i]"Do you often have an entirely disproportional reaction to people making you feel like a pussy? What are you going to do? Walk into the police station with tears in your eyes and tell them about the bad man bullying you?"[/i]
I think it's more about the fact that the guy might think its ok just to walk up to people in their cars and hit them than it is about any possible embarrassment suffered.
Of course you could listen to the internet hard-men and risk losing your life or liberty for 15 years ... and believe me I've seen retaliatory attacks end in tragedy for the participants, not least their families.
thats it ... im outta here! 🙄
arcane your a bad ass lol
seriously though i had visions of myself destroying a dog walker the other day as i was running a dog kept on chasing me and yapping at my ankles until i stepped on its paw and it yelped, then the owner steams over and acused me of kicking his (out of ****ing control) dog!
i thought it was going to kick off, and had visions of me landing one on him to get him out my face
some situations just make you see red, doesnt mean your a psycho
smogmonster, I'm assuming you're a Boro lad by your name?
but then a Boro lad would have proper lamped him.
Listen to deluded if you want to do something as there speaks the well reasoned voice of experience on this thread.
I'd suggest you go and talk to this guy - possibly arranged by yr mate in advance and also with him in attendance to avoid it turning nasty againThat way you find out what was really going on and yr mate doesn't have any unresolved "issue" left between him & neighbour
go round and see him.. take a four pack of beers.. ask him why he's so upset and if there's anything you can do to help..reading through this thread it's no wonder this country is in the state it's in..
thats what i would do.
So you rock up at his front door and **** him in the face, I doubt he will just stand there and take it, more likley it will end in a fight.
If the police then show up, your defence will be "he hit me a few days back, so I came back to hit him" 😕
The time to hit him was when he attacked you, in self defence. Not now. Court and all that is a waste of time IMO. Have a biscuit and a cup of tea - shiz happens 🙂
What you need to do is, buy a car with anti-lock brakes. 😀
So youre driving along a narrow road from your house, where your kids may be playing outside, along with a neighbours kids,and see a car approaching, the approaching car stops sudenly skidding to a halt on the gravel ,inflamed you jump out, and punch the driver, more in shock than anger, you then relaise what youve done, apologise profusely, and then you find out your mate is a mate of the other driver, and you apologise to him as well.
Youre now sitting in the house waiting for the ineveitable knock on the door from the police and the thought of being charged with assault, you want to ring the other chap up, to apologise, but are affraid of his reaction.
Ah balls, Project saw right through my story... 😉
I havn't bothered reading anybody else's posts.
Report him. If you don't you will regret doing so.
Who the hell does he think he is doing that.
i agree that the moment for a return punch has clearly evaporated.
surely the right thing to do would be to go knock on this guys house, and surprise the crap out him by suggesting he start a 'slow down' campaign for the kids who live on the road?
clearly the trolls who say 'go and speak to him, chat about his problems' 'knock on his door and beat the shit out of him' are having some fun this evening.
anyone who can just jump out of a car and hit someone without warning is not the kind of person that wants to chat about their problems with a complete stranger or take a slapping from on their doorstep with good grace.
anything that happens after mr punchys door gets knocked on will be the fault of smogmonster.
the old bill will surely see it as premeditated, mr punchy will claim that he didnt jump out of his car and give anyone a slap earlier in the day (unless there are witnesses, which i assume not)
a world of shit awaits on the other side of mr punchys door.
report the ****er and let the bill frighten him a bit
Oh. My. God. I'm gutted for this country that nearly half the posts here say report him, and worse, a significant proportion seem to be seriously suggesting some old testament eye for an eye shit. (I'm hoping that they're kidding) by his immediate realisation that his behaviour was out of order the bloke had demonstrated that he's far from all bad, so what sort of almighty mother of all bad days must this chap be having?
Where's your empathy people? Jeez, take a look at yourselves...
Does the perp have a wife and what does she look like? can you come to some sort of 'arrangement' if she's a looker?
😉
The time for retaliation has passed. Personally I'd pop round his house just to clear things up. By that I mean have a chat and clear the air. He'll feel a prick I'd imagine.
A long time ago, when i as a student, at a college, me and one of the lecturers didnt agree, he accused me of stealing something, which i hadnt and punched out at me,when i got annoyed, (a sackable ofence for him) i pushed him back and he fell into a plastic bin, he wasnt hurt, but i had a bruised face.
A lot of fellow students saw what happened, and wanted him reported, i persuaded them not to and we covered it up, a few days latter after the weekend, the lecturer asked me why i hadnt reported him, i just said WHY, you [b]didnt[/b] hit me, i pushed you, He said thankyou and i said thankyou, end of story.
How friendly is your mate with the neighbour? If you report him will it have any repercussions for your mate? Are you any good at forgiving and forgetting?
It's obviously too late for retaliation on the grounds of self defence, but if you can't forgive and forget it'll eat you up that you never 'did' anything about it. (Speaking from experience, I've only recently let go the feeling of self loathing after being confronted by three youths, one armed with a hammer)
Speak to your mate about reporting him to the police, if he's happy it'll not have any effect on his position of something of a piggy in the middle. Report him, let them know you don't want to press charges (If you don't) Hopefully it'll give him a wake up call, and make him realise no matter how bad a day he's having he can't take it out on someone else.
[i]Does the perp have a wife and what does she look like? can you come to some sort of 'arrangement' if she's a looker?[/i]
Unless he's a STWer in which case he'll agree to come to some sort of arrangement and then totally renage on the deal.
When I read the OP I thought pretty much what v8ninety wrote.
Report him!!! I mean wtf-you just don't go round punching people! As for he must have been having a bad day, I have had several bad days recently, and just before xmas had a couple of days that will be filed as the lowest I've felt in my life-I made it through them without punching anyone though and did a fair bit of driving in that time too 8)
Be aware that these days, with crime recording rules and what not, the police might be unable to record an assault and then deal with it by way of 'a chat'. It's not that the local bobbies won't want to, but the bosses in the ivory tower won't like an undetected crime on the books, and would insist every effort is made to get a detection.
clearly the trolls who say 'go and speak to him, chat about his problems' 'knock on his door and beat the shit out of him' are having some fun this evening
well, I don't think I'm trolling. The "kick the shit" bit was a joke, I'd hoped obviously so.
The rest is what I'd do - but I'd let my mate arrange the conversation since
a) he knows the guy so is a bit neutral in this
b) he presumably wants to remain on good terms with the guy, whilst I don't have to live there
c) me just turning up unexpectedly at the door might just provoke an odd reaction from a guy who's clearly been quite wound up
d) it'd be daft to go round at all if the guy's going to be hostile
Go with your mate around to the neighbour, and say the first rule of fight club is not to skid in your car and that you forgot and your sorry, then punch him, if your scared get your mate to hold him while you punch him.
Sometimes leaving matters alone are best for the greater good - it's difficult to judge. You have to balance that with the risk of living in a society where indecorous behaviour of the nature the OP describes increases because it's tolerated and goes unaddressed. Perhaps the cops firing a warning shot over his bows at least is a proportionate response? I don't mean niking him and referring it to the CPS - just check him out on his doorstep and for a few words of advice to be dispensed. If he is a reasonable man as his early apology is suggestive of, this could have the desired effect.
thegreatape - I don't think it's got that ridiculous yet. Not for allegations like this.
I think you should report him - the moment has passed to pay him a visit and whack him (which is what he deserves)
Report him! Report him! Ommmm I'm telling... Miss, johnny bit me... FFS people, grow up and stop whinging. There are times when you should be very glad of the decent police and criminal justice system in this country, and there's times when you should just MTFU and shrug, chalk it up to experience and move on. Don't waste police time.
I mean, really.
target the wife 😈 "revenge is a dish best served cold"
Wait a few hours, then sneak out in the dead of night, graffiti MURDERER on his door in red paint then sneak home. You never know, he sounds pretty crackers, he may well be! You even know where he lives.
I suppose it varies from place to place. When I worked in Nottingham we had to i/v suspects even if the complainer refused to give a statement, just in case they admitted it. Complete waste of time.
think you need to say something even its only for your mate to have a chat with this guy, you just cant punch someone cause your having a bad day, hell we all have bad days but i dont usually go round punching people when i do dont know about you lot. think this guy needs to be told it bang out of order, no need to get police involved unless he turns out to be a complete ****.
v8ninety
i expect you'd let it lie if he smacked anyone dear to you?
just chalk it up to a bad day huh?
dont want to waste police time now, do we?
I suppose it varies from place to place. When I worked in Nottingham we had to i/v suspects even if the complainer refused to give a statement, just in case they admitted it. Complete waste of time.
Really? I can understand Domestic Violence cases where there's a positive arrest policy etc but for the above? I guess you're glad you've transferred?
I agree with the above... 'own' his wife 🙂
Or just put it down to experience.
I once had a guy go friggin mental at me in tescos car park when I asked what he was doing in a parent and child space when he was not with children (I had a my 1 and 2 yr old and could have done with said space).
The guy went ballastic and frightened both my youngsters to tears.
He was a total cock. But he will get his dues in time.
Yes, really. May have changed I suppose, but that's the way it was. You're right though, I don't miss Nottingham!
clearly the trolls who say 'go and speak to him, chat about his problems' 'knock on his door and beat the shit out of him' are having some fun this evening
I wasn't trolling either.. what kind of isolated insular anal hell do we live in if you can't chat about a blokes problems..
as said before.. he doesn't sound like a hardnosed thug and he's a part of your wider circle whether you like it or not..
where's the community spirit gone..?
where's the ****ing love..!?
people are so quick to blame everyone else for societies problems but it's patently obvious that the causes are inside all of us..
drop him or report him ffs
Just post a pair of squirrels through his door when he next goes out.
That'll learn him!!
Report him.
*Middle class wimp thread alert*
"people are so quick to blame everyone else for societies problems but it's patently obvious that the causes are inside all of us.."
Aye.
If the incident is still bothering you, and you think it is safe to do so, you could ask to talk. It might help him, and you.
Obviously, if he's a proper nutter, shop him.