[Closed] Pubs scanning ID documents?!

What do they mean by scanning? As in they have a machine to do it, or the door staff will be looking at them to check they are 18, as has been the way for years.

Which city?

Was standard when I was in Perth Australia- at night clubs anyway.

Let them flag trouble makers easier and id folk if there was any troubls

I wouldn’t be getting in then. The only proof of age I take on a night out is my wizened, aged face and balding head.

The implication was some kind of electronic scan not just an age check.

As beautiful as Mrs g-d she is not realistically going to be mistaken for being under 25.

Sounds wrong - I'd not go to any pubs that did that.

Sounds wrong – I’d not go to any pubs that did that.

Indeed. But not because I’d be worried about the security of my documentation but because any establishment that feels they need to resort to this must have a clientele of absolute dribblers I’d rather not electively spend my time around.

I wouldn't be trusting any bar staff nevermind door staff with copies of my id.

@Convert funnily enough we've just had that conversation too.

Mrs g-d shares my view that any pub suggesting this can do one!

This is in Portsmouth.

I cannot understand how anyone could think holding large amounts of sensitive data that is a prime source for theft (for resale) and identity theft is legitimate against the risk of having to turf out the odd piss head. There seems to be potential for association of that data with trouble making etc and could also involve the storage of subjective data and reports to the police or others about conduct that might lead to no formal action about the subjects it just shouts inappropriate to me.

If your pub or club is that iffy then you shouldn't have a liquor licence imo.

Dunno about GDPR etc, but it's been common* at nightclubs for years. Driving licence just goes through a little scanner doodahh by the door. They also had signs saying details of troublemakers would be shared between local venues.

I guess as well as keeping out troublemakers it gives them a cast iron defence if they're accused of serving alcohol to those underage. Especially for venues where the promoter and licensee are different people/companies, one quite happy to turn a blind eye to a group of 17yr old girls in low cut tops and the other that get's the fine, bouncers can't show that sort of 'discretion' if they have to scan everyone's ID in.

*as in, I've been to several nightclubs that do this and I've probably not been in a night club in the last 7 years so it's definitely not new!

Sounds wrong – I’d not go to any pubs that did that.

Indeed. But not because I’d be worried about the security of my documentation but because any establishment that feels they need to resort to this must have a clientele of absolute dribblers I’d rather not electively spend my time around.

This + 1

Odd that it’s in Pompy, I’ll ask at the club to see if this is “a thing” or recent etc.

From what I remember of Portsmouth nights out when I was at uni, they had a tool that scanned the document to ensure it was a legit ID (it checked watermarks etc) and did the maths for the bouncer so he didn't have to work out what age they were. From what I gathered it didn't actually create a copy.

It's reasonably common for the bigger chains to do it.
Expect they could comply with gdpr if they deleted any records the day after assuming there was no trouble.

I don't know that they actually store anything though.

something like this? https://www.nightclub.co.uk/

They might be using a clause like prevention and detection of a crime

Had to do it at The Egg in London years ago after someone was stabbed to death there a short while before.

Mildly distressing when you're already "in the party spirit" and the queue took absolutely ages.