[Closed] PSA: Scammer on WTD classifieds

What the? My previous post went missing half way through!

Stay vigilant people. What we have here is a case of postnapping.

Edit:

OH MY GOD! THEY GOT DRUIDH!!?!?!?!

GET ME THE PRESIDENT ON THE PHONE!

LOLZWUTMATELULZ?!?!!?!

It's like the Twilight Zone around here

PSA - don't post here or they get your IP address and then you

edit: damn

They've got to Druid!

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But, blast, I missed trigger's post. DOn't suppose anyone [s]photoshopped[/s] copied it did they? I do so hate missing out #noseygit

I've got a screenshot of the PP post if anyone missed it?
Also, applause to the Mods for deleting it

Just got my fiver refunded, looks like our scammer has been found out..

More likely he's crapping himself with all the talk of Fraud Squad reporting and his name and address being posted (and deleted) from the thread 😉

[quote=nealglover ]his name and address being posted (and deleted) from the thread But not from one of the other threads linked above 🙄

Indeed.

I can't see the issue with posting the name and address of someone who is known to be stealing from people,

Obviously someone with a "delete post" button disagrees though 🙁

Note from merchant
Hi, I don't know what is going is on, but my email and PayPal account was hacked into last week. I have only just been able to gain access to my PayPal account and have just seen all the damage that has been done. Someone has been masquerading as myself.

mmmmmm, i've got my money back that's the main thing has everyone else?

Ah, the "Shaggy Defence"

Genius 🙄

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Yes got the same email and my money refunded. Very odd! But I'm relieved I got my money returned.
However I have still reported it to the police. They can sort out what's really gone on.

Just out of curiosity, does everyone who is accused of being a scammer, and subsequently denies it, prove they aren't by giving the money back?
I can't help but think I would be more convinced by the goods actually turning up...

I got a refund really quickly, however I'm concerned about a deeper scam, and the guy having my address. So if who ever did have his address could them email it to me, just for peace of mind if something does happen in the near future

Cheers.

To all those who paid a stranger using paypal gift......

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I got slated last time this sort of thing reared its head.
Selling and expect paying through Paypal? Then cough up.
They are taking someone else's money, passing it on to you and the info required with it yet you expect to get that for free?
Why should the buyer cough up when they aren't receiving the money?
IMO - the classifieds should ONLY allow Paypal payments done correctly.
Any seller requesting PP gift gets the ad pulled the same as if there is more than one ad on the front page in 24 hrs, etc.
The buyer then puts feedback on the ORIGINAL SALE THREAD or they have a "Feedback" section with a template that you have to fill in to be able to post.
At least 5 of the other forums I use ALL have this in place and templates for items for sale/wanted.
If you don't use the template - the ad is deleted.
The word "gift" used - ad is deleted.
Not rocket science and stops any chance of scams.

If I'm selling, I don't really care how the money gets in to my account. I don't expect to pay for it to get there. I'm happy to pass on my account details to the buyer but that leaves them with no redress outside of the Small Claims Court or fraud charges.

It is a shame that there is no option when using PP to chose which end pays the PP fee(I don't think there is anyway). Of course you can calculate it and add to the purchase price (maybe with a discount if paying with bank transfer etc instead) but I too see the benefit of using "proper" paypal being mainly for the buyer not the seller so think that if a fee has to be paid that's where it should come from. As much as you might hate the big corporate animal that is paypal making a profit, they are providing a service so not sure why people don't think you should pay for it. And that is before you add the extra security of doing to the paid rather than gift way.

i received no email but i did get a full refund he must of got scared!

Crap!! I sent Dan Hallty £170 on thursday for a garmin.

Crap!! I sent Dan Hallty £170 on thursday[b] "for a garmin."[/b]

Please say you didn't use "gift"

Does no one check now, or are they too busy chasing a bargin?

too busy chasin a bargain! haha in my case i was simply a naive idiot who thought that i could trust everyone on singletrack as I've never had any trouble in the last 2 or 3 years I've been using it but ya live and learn!

What bug?

Does that mean its fixed ?

It did you just delete the second "what bug" post 😉

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I paid him a couple of quid for some avid calliper parts (not 'gift' cos I'm cool) and got a refund a couple of days later, said "sorry, I can't find them". Thought nothing of it, then tonight got the following email;

" Hello,

This is a general email to those that have received a paypal money request from my email account.

In the last few days a hacker accessed my email and paypal accounts, requesting paypal money from you. If you have received any emails from my email account in the last week, please ignore and delete them. Do not send any money using paypal gift.

I was made aware that the hacker was selling bike goods at a forum called singletrackworld, specifically this forum post:

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/psa-scammer-on-classifieds

I don't know how this has happened, but I have only just been able to gain access to my paypal account and have seen all the damage that has been done. A hacker has been masquerading as myself and using my accounts to extract money using paypal gift. I have been in contact with paypal and they are investigating. In the meantime I have managed to issue full refunds to all 67 people who were affected.

Sorry you got caught up in all this.

Dan"

Strangely, the email was only addressed to me and not the other 66 people..

They've got my address to but that's all and they can get that of any electoral registrar, so I'm not that concerned.

Thanks for the edit Mods...apologies for the censored swear. Do you plan on doing anything about these people on your forums, or are you too busy deleting things for trivial reasons?

Is this not the same guy that was linked to on page 3 of this thread ?

If that's the case, he must have his email and paypal accounts hacked fairly regularly as its been going on for ages.

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/note-new-rules-and-advice-on-buying-or-selling

New rules?

...but that post is 3 months old, Drac.

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If that's the case, he must have his email and paypal accounts hacked fairly regularly as its been going on for ages.

Someone go to the plod please- not aimed at STW as they are between a rock and hard place.

Agreed. He's been getting away with this exact same thing for at least 10 months. Possibly a lot longer.

Each time he gets rumbled (every few months) he gives a few people some money back and it all goes away.
But he's still doing it all the time in between !

And he will carry on doing it again and again unless someone (or a group of people) who have been involved take it further and go to the Police with all the info.

[i]67 people !!!![/i] 😯

I've got that same email from the looser.... it sounds like some kid arse covering, paypal account hacked...then Bike magic, STW account at same time..

who goes to the police ? individuals ? or the websites who seam to be so adamant in maintaining impartiality ? come on STW, share some responsibility and GOT TO THE POLICE WITH IP's / User Addressed and evidence.
Protect us who give you your living please.

Just don't had over money to people you don't know or trust. There are some I'd quite happily gift to some I would avoid buying from. Why should the towers protect you if you can't do the most basic of checks yourself.
Be responsible for your actions. Don't rely on others to do the work for you.

Totally agree. This is not a police matter, this is a matter for individual responsibility. Who is actually out of pocket...come forward.

I do think that STW (as the people who have the most information) should help out with this sort of thing.

It wouldn't take much effort to help out with whatever information they have.

Then people could take it further and sort these arseholes out properly.

who goes to the police ?

Obviously 67 people. Each quoting the same crime number hopefully?

And yes individual responibility is also required.

Just don't hand over money to people you don't know. This forum is NOT a safe place to trade goods, go to eBay for that. They have an established and safe system for that. But hang on, people want to save a few quid and avoid fees. Shall we start a risk analysis. This is a matter of individual responsibility and being a grown up with your money. Who is actually out of pocket...come forward. Has everyone received refunds? What was the basis of the deal..." I give you my money and I pray that you send my special bike part". Come on people. Was there really any crime actually committed? Does this neath83/danhallty/whoever really exist? Maybe you have all been had in the "psychological sense".

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For the record, I have nothing against Nigerian people.

This is not a police matter, this is a matter for individual responsibility.

what fraudulently selling goods you dont have is not a police matter and its the individuals fault 😕

What about girls at night who dress "provocatively" 🙄

Its appears to be a crime, What folk want to do about it is there choice.

Thanks for joining just to post this and join in this debate- I wonder how you found this thread and site?
Anyway you sure live up to your name

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This is not a police matter

Why not? From this thread alone it is apparent that the person behind all this has committed multiple crimes.

Thanks for joining just to post this and join in this debate- I wonder how you found this thread and site?

Anyone else getting a whiff of a sort of rodenty aroma?

To be honest if its a couple of hundred or more
and there not local i wouldn't buy it !

Agree a price and collect in person

Had an email recently responding to a wanted ad I had placed for a turbo. Seemed like a good deal so I asked some questions and never got a response. Emailed them again and it seems as though the email account has now been deleted - name was Ricky Mantis.
Apologies to the guy if he is genuine but thought I should post this.

he mailed me offering a heckler bearing press for £8 from my wanted ad I strung him along for a few days asking for all kinds of pictures he couldn't find from google

if it seems too good to be true it probably is

they way he replied word for word on the description seemed fishy/false straight away