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At work we're going for a range of plain & fruit scones, strawberry and raspberry jam, clotted cream plus of course a gingham tablecloth & napkins. Naturally we'll be taking advantage of the good weather and nomming through this lot on the extensive lawns outside the office.
Go on, you know you want to.
Jam first obviously.
Jam first obviously.
Obviously, you'd have to be an utter moron to go cream first
Wars have started for less, Rubber
#CreamFirst
Agreed. Can we lobby the mods to immediately ban anyone who does it wrong, please?
Jeez, I misread perchys email, as I couldn't believe that someone whose posts I have always enjoyed so much could be so badly wrong.
I'm well aware that my confused ramblings in this post will not really help so, to set it straight, cream first is the correct, Devonshire way, and should always be followed...
'Just going to spread the jam on my toast, then the butter on top'. Said nobody ever.
Cream is just immature butter, you halfwits. Get in the sea.
That's drawn a few out ready to be rounded up
Wars have started for less, Rubber
#CreamFirst
My god man, have you no self respect?
#CreamFirst
You are dead to me.
#TeamKernow
That creamfirst hashtag is the cake on the icing.
Cream is just immature butter
Jam is just over matured strawberries
"Just going to drop these strawberries into this big bowl of cream’. Said nobody ever.
Get in the sea.
I intend to. In Cornwall
“Just going to drop these strawberries into this big bowl of cream’. Said nobody ever.
Trifle is outside, it wants a word. And it's brought Ladyfingers.
I’m well aware that my confused ramblings in this post will not really help so, to set it straight, cream first is the correct, Devonshire way, and should always be followed…
That's the most effective way of doing it wrong. Not being from Devon or Cornwall, I have no axe to grind, so conducted trials...
Trifle is on the phone, it wants a word.
...about where the fruit is?
It's in the jelly. On the bottom. Underneath the cream.
As it should be.
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Cream is just immature butter, you halfwits. Get in the sea.
Best user name and post interface .
De minimis non curat panthera
You're all wrong, what is wrong with all of you.
Eat clotted cream from bowl, eat more clotted cream from bowl, once you're feeling sickly, use the scone to wipe the remnants of clotted cream from the bowl. Once the bowl contains nary a suggestion of having once contained cream, butter what's left of the scone and eat it. Feel free to have a second scone with jam.
Depending on how stw_hannah answers this, I may resign my blue P....
Jam first.
Unless of course you are non-binary and could have strawberry flavour cream...
Just going to drop these strawberries into this big bowl of cream’. Said nobody ever.
Strawberry Pavlova.
Strawberry Pavlova
Exactly, it'd be pavlunda if the strawberries went in first.
Doh - should've known this would cause a fight between the creamists and the jammists. Just one question - why is everyone banging on about strawberries when the jam to use is obviously raspberry?
Just one question – why is everyone banging on about strawberries when the jam to use is obviously raspberry?
MODS!
Ban him! I find his post offensive.
jam to use is obviously raspberry
Good sharp makes you grimace black currant (other tart options such as gooseberry or bramble are available) surely, not sickly sweet [any sort of] red fruit jam unless you're a child?

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Cheese scone. Loads of proper salted butter. Done.
High fives pocpoc..
Tru dat.
Wanders off to start a socks and sandals thread 😉
Cream tea doesn't have to be scones (pronounced 'it's gone')
It could be a large Victoria sandwich cake with jam and cream. Always tea though, never coffee. Or a coffee and walnut cake is acceptable.
I think a strawberry shortcake would be nice on a gingham tablecloth. All above bakery products have to be home made - its the law.
Sconn or scoan...?
It could be a large Victoria sandwich cake with jam and cream. Always tea though, never coffee. Or a coffee and walnut cake is acceptable.
Or???? OR?????? I think the word you're looking for is AND
Sconn or scoan…?
Scon.
Jam first, obviously. One isn't a barbarian.
And no raisins in the scones (prn. scons).
Skon if you're acting posh. Skoan if not.
Good sharp makes you grimace black currant (other tart options such as gooseberry or bramble are available) surely, not sickly sweet [any sort of] red fruit jam unless you’re a child?
A good, homemade strawberry or raspberry jam isn't sickly sweet.
Sconn or scoan…?
Scon obviously, or the joke about the fastest food in the world wouldn't work
A good, homemade strawberry or raspberry jam isn’t sickly sweet.
You're supposed to to wash the cat wee off first.
Strawberries are sweet (or tasteless when under ripe) and need a fair amount of sugar (about 4:3) to set the jam. raspberries when ripe are sweet and need 1:1 fruit and sugar roughly, under ripe ones need more sugar. It's always going to be very sweet.
Cream on top. ON TOP.
Good sharp makes you grimace black currant (other tart options such as gooseberry or bramble are available) surely, not sickly sweet [any sort of] red fruit jam unless you’re a child?
All that sharp jam has made you quite bitter.
Strawberries are sweet (or tasteless when under ripe) and need a fair amount of sugar (about 4:3) to set the jam. raspberries when ripe are sweet and need 1:1 fruit and sugar roughly, under ripe ones need more sugar. It’s always going to be very sweet.
It's sweet for sure, but well-made jam with good quality fruit will still have a hint of sharpness from the fruit. I always use "just ripe" fruit as it sets more easily and retains some acidity. I add lemon juice in with low acidity fruit.
Friday is creampie day as well.
^ 
All that sharp jam has made you quite bitter
Not at all.
I was bitter long before I lost my sweet tooth.
Cream first, jam nipple on top, always.
And Devon invented it. Comes from Tavistock. Though Cornish impostor isn't with a scone, but a split as they call it.
Scone / Cone / Tone / Phone / Bone.
Scon! Sigh.
So I don't care if you're a jammists, creamist, cheese-ist, scoaner, skonner, victoria sponger, coffee and walnutter - even if you're having instant coffee with it.... but who's having a cream tea today? (croe, no more detail from you thanks).
scoaner, skonner,

Had a baguette with jam and cream, sgone .
nobody is suggesting a small lump of butter under the cream and jam?
sigh.
obviously got to be jam first.
Then cream on top, that's what makes it's special - it's a miniature cake.
jam on top of cream? what's the point? you may as well just have a jam sandwich.
jam on top of cream? what’s the point? you may as well just have a jam sandwich.
Well for the sake of balance I tried one with jam first today, but after adding 'sufficient' cream it just looked like cream on a scone. Solution? Add another dollop of jam on top of the cream (that was on top of the jam). Have I just invented the 'border' (Tamar?) cream tea that takes the best of the Devon & Cornish ways?
Well for the sake of balance I tried one with jam first today, but after adding ‘sufficient’ cream it just looked like cream on a scone.
You've underjammed* there.
*Obviously, it's impossible to overcream.
You know you're all doing it wrong - Thick white doorsteps, lather the jam on one, cream on the other, seal and eat. Invert acording to Devonness/Cornishness. HTH
And if you want a nice change - cheese for cream and chutney for jam. Burn me
Otherwise #jamfirst (Devonian here)
*Obviously, it’s impossible to overcream
Obviously you haven't used the Internet very much. I'd post pictures but it would certainly attract the ban hammer
Obviously you haven’t used the Internet very much. I’d post pictures but it would certainly attract the ban hammer
Easily solved by wearing these.....

Just blend em’
Makes all the I’m right/you are wrong arguments null.
Like this, but with the ingredients for a cream tea thrown in.
A drink, served in a jam jar? Only it's not even a real jam jar, it's a sodding glass, with a handle to make it easy to drink from , made to look like a bloody jam jar, then they put a flipin straw in it to defeat the object of the handle too!
After many years of scone guzzling I have a scientific approach and use both jam first and cream first depending on where I am!
If I'm out at a cafe I'll do cream first then jam, but at home I'll do jam then cream.. this stops cream going in my jam jar as I only use one knife. If I'm out at a cafe the jams usually in a little bowl that will be washed out or single use pack so cream contaminated jam is less important!
as I only use one knife
Are you a peasant? A spoon for jam, surely, as any fule knoweth!
Sadly I've missed the cream teas for the day.
I'll take a double helping tomorrow as penance.
There is only one person talking sense here. And that’s MrMonkFinger.
Scone, pronounced scon, cut in half, buttered with unsalted butter, jam, clotted cream, on each half. Eat.
If there is leftover clotted cream, have another scon(e).
The flavour of jam can be matched or compliment the fruit in the scon(e). Plain or cheese scon(e)s can and should be eaten with selected cheese and chutney.
If there is leftover clotted cream, have another scon(e).
If there's leftover cream, you just haven't gone high enough with it on the first scone.
Surely the jam/cream conundrum is a matter of structural integrity? The cream has to be at least half, preferably three quarters of inch thick. Jam on top of that, of an equal thickness is a wobbly disaster bound to end in tears. The superior viscosity and adhesive qualities of preserved fruit means it is the only sane choice for a base layer, for stability and health and safety reasons.

