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Bloody nice Mexico but I want a Toyota Engine in it ... 😆
Why do modern cars not retain all the simple curves?
Back in the far east my mates have VW Golf GTi, Fiat, Ford etc, Opel, Volvo, Range Rover, Alfa, Mini ... all with Toyota or Honda engine in them. 😆
ps: they like Mazda twin rotary engine very much but they would have to sell their wives to feed the thirsty beast.
Why do modern cars not retain all the simple curves?
Curves are over rated.
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CaptainFlashheart - MemberWhy do modern cars not retain all the simple curves?
Curves are over rated.
OKay, with the exception of few of them.
Those two are nice ... I like! Much! 
glad I spotted this, got the plus one on record now
Best mate has one of the former, and I have one of the latter! The W123 pictured there is a diesel, however, which I wish mine was. Same colour and condition, though.
I had one, NYW 233L if anyone knows of it's survival…...
The W123 is nice but I would transform it into a "gangster" car ... 😆
Nope, it's staying classic. I owe that to the original owner.
CaptainFlashheart - MemberNope, it's staying classic. I owe that to the original owner.
I need pics of proof!
I can't afford one in the UK because of the bloody expensive insurance, etc ... in the far east everyone can own one provided they can get parts.
None in my Flickr account at the moment. Will try and dig some up though!
I saw one last weekend on the Isle of Wight. I saw quite a few MK1 & Mk2 Escorts over there (maybe there was some kind of meet on?).
One of my Dad's mates used to have an Avenger Tiger, equally awesome.
Nice one, watching it now. I love those old escorts and capris
A bloke called Pig Lard Fat in my home town used to have a Capri full mods damn it was nice. 😯
A bloke called Pig Lard Fat
The mind boggles
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eskay - MemberA bloke called Pig Lard Fat
The mind boggles
He was a butcher (pork seller not other meat though) and he was a very large (fat) bloke hence the name ... 😆 Yes, everyone called him by that name. None PC in those days and he was very proud of that to be honest.
His Capri was better looking than that link of yours.
Come 'ed! It's the bizzies!!
But that was a Tickford Capri, his may have looked better but.....!
Not a bad programme at all - way better than that C5 one.
Bloody hell all the Mexicos are lovely! Damn! They are nice. 😯
Wonder what they paid for the insurance ... 😆
A good programme indeed.
My brother has an R5 Turbo 2, now that is a car!!
Do like mk1 escorts, good program aswell.
Anyway curves?
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All about straight lines 🙂
Awesome, loved that 🙂
parkesie - MemberAll about straight lines
Nahhh ... that one does not cut it. You need late 70s to mid 80s model for Alfa I am afraid.
I remember all the Police back home drove Alfa Romeo. We laughed at them because they were the only govt department that bought Italian cars. The garage loved them because they got paid for fixing them all the time. 😆
One day I'll scan a pic of my boy racer Mexico and post it up - need a working scanner first!
Great call OP I really enjoyed that. My conclusion, is that nothing has changed other than the drivers are older, much older - about my age! 😉
Have a llok how much a properly restored and original (or close to original) spec Escort 1 or 2 goes for these days. Then tell me it should have a toyota engine in it........ 😉
maxtorque - MemberHave a llok how much a properly restored and original (or close to original) spec Escort 1 or 2 goes for these days. Then tell me it should have a toyota engine in it........
The reason we prefer Toyota engines because they are very reliable and parts plentiful. 2AGE was the favourite engine then for all boy racers then we added turbo ...
Bloody nice Mexico but I want a Toyota Engine in it ... 🙄
Ford Cosworth twin-cam or standard. Toyota? Deary me...
I can't believe he considered turning it into a rally car.
Good programme, great topic and beautiful car 😀
My mate did the sound recording for that programme, and does the rest of the series too 😀
It's actually a damn good car show. Like a more grown up version of that thing with mike and edd.
CountZero - MemberBloody nice Mexico but I want a Toyota Engine in it ...
Ford Cosworth twin-cam or standard. Toyota? Deary me...
Toyota 4AGE do twin-cam 16v too but obviously nobody knows about this in the west. 😆
The twin cam 4AGE is basically a road going, mass produced version of the Ford Cosworth BDA twin cam racing engine. They share the same bore and stroke (81mm x 77mm), the same size valves (29.5mm & 25.5mm), and in some versions of the 4AGE very similar port shapes & sizes. When fully prepared for racing, they both produce similar hp figures at similar revs, so it would seem that Toyota has done an excellent job with them.... Contrary to a false assumption that the 4A-G is a copy of the Cosworth BDA
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My dad is crying into my mothers arms as we speak as he pushed his "big wing mex" into the tip at work some 30 odd years ago after stripping it for bits.
However I'm one of the few that can say that I was brought up in a genuine rally/family car as he also raced it at the same time as using it for the sainsburys run!
Bloody nice Mexico but I want a Toyota Engine in it ...Ford Cosworth twin-cam or standard. Toyota? Deary me...
Don't you mean Ford BDA? What about the 1600 Lotus twin cam from the Elan S1, which was fitted to the Mk1 Escort Twin Cam?
Sticking to Toyota engine me but in the UK you need to get the local favourite otherwise there would be new learning curve.
backinireland - MemberSome car the twin cam!
Yep, that's one of the favourite amongst the local boys in the far east, i.e. Toyota Levin particularly, but since most could not afford one they went for Toyota Corolla 1982 saloon (very light car) instead ... then stick in the 4AGE. 😆
loved that program. thanks OP.
You also had the RS Mk1's and the twin cam.
They hold their value well don't they... well after a full rebuild anyway
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Great program!
Really looking forward to next week and the Series1
Be interested to know whats under the bonnet of the Green one that the Harris family race against the standard yellow mexico.
Just had a look on ebay for restored Mexicos ,prices anywhere between £12 and £23K 😯
unovolo, I suspect it's pretty much the same engine as the one they put into the show/program car. The standard Mexcio engine was pretty dull to be frank, around 88bhp IRC. With the modding and twin 40 carbs you can easily get that up to 140-150bhp perhaps slightly more. So, if you think of the difference almost double, that would produce the time gap between the two cars head to head.
I had various engines in mine, several cross flows and a rather expensive and disappointing BDA. The best was one I built using a Swaymar cylinder head, went exceptionally well much better than the BDA until a conrod broke and destroyed an expensive engine. I noticed on the rebuild, that the Harris's used a steel conrod as opposed to the original cast iron - these cost about a grand a set alone!
I would hazard a guess that you could spend 4-5K on a standard engine to bring it up to the above spec. It's so much cheaper to modify engines these days - a few hundred for re-mapping!
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It's actually a damn good car show. Like a more grown up version of that thing with mike and edd.
TBH I wish they'd shown more of the refurb, as a hell of a lot of work must have gone into it, than the say the silly "under ground" car meet bit. As much as Mike and Ed show is annoying, the mechanics bit is the part I enjoy (mechanical numpty)
Agreed, re: showing more of the refurb.
That shell was in a shocking state.
I like the US programs where they blast the shell with crushed walnut shells to get it bare metal without taking too much strength out.
But, Mk2 RS2000 for me. 😉
Although that blue Mk1 RS2000 that was in shot a few times last night...gorgeous.
I need pics of proof!
Sorry it took a while!
Here's one of the AutobahnBarge, with a friends (now departed) MG in front! Not a great pic, I'm afraid, am still sorting out a load of old photos to go on to Flickr.
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Pity Tom Sheppard ditched LR and went to Mercedes G-Wagens!
Enjoyed the Land Rover episode a lot more than the Mexico Episode, more interesting side stories. Boy they must use a lot of 'new/refurbed' kit to get em done in 8 weeks (props to Stoner?), though what the hell did the original owner do to the poor Landy to break the chassis?
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..And if yout going to go to this much trouble (& no doubt expense) why not galvanise the chassis, so that it will at least last the distance. Though no doubt it'll be sold to a collection/collector (& stored)
there could be anything in that harris build, bearing in mind there's vids on youtube of a Harris driven drag strip Mk1. No expert but it wouldn't surprise me if the one featured was running maybe 250bhp+ and/or loads of torque as the speed difference was massive, yet I cannot see the car itself being lightened much although i am probably wrong. The back seat's in my Mk1 weighed next to nothing - was sound deadening to take out. You can also get some panels such as the bonnet/boot/door skins/boot skins etc in alloy, which would make a difference.