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[Closed] Provisional Licence: motorbike capacity?

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Can anyone shed some light?
Have just been checking my drivers licence and noticed the Provisional section.
As I am really old, it appears as if I can ride Category A bikes.

“Category A, You can drive:
motorbikes with a power output more than 35kW or a power to weight ratio more than 0.2kW/kg
motor tricycles with a power output more than 15kW
You can also drive motorbikes in categories A1 and A2”

Is this right? So a quick CBT, then I can get something bigger than a 125?

Dumb question #2: what capacity does a Cat-A bike equate to typically?

Is there a time limit (license states provisional from Jan 1985 to Sept 2037). Could I theoretically potter around on L plates until then or have I completely misunderstood?


 
Posted : 19/01/2020 11:14 pm
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The "grandad" rights are long gone. You sound a similar age to me, so your current licence will let you ride a 50cc and no more. You will need to complete a CBT which will allow you to ride a 125cc (and no more) for 2 years. During that time you can then upgrade via the direct access to a full licence - and you'll need to complete (like I did) a theory test and hazard perception. And then a MOD 1 test followed by a MOD 2. It's a bit of a faff but all needed. As a car driver, riding a bike has certainly improved my skills in the car as well.


 
Posted : 19/01/2020 11:33 pm
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Ah, that makes much more sense GQ, thanks


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 8:43 am
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If you do the Mod 1 & 2 on a big bike 33whatsits or about 500cc in old money you can go straight to a big bike not an under 33whatsits bike.
Big bikes are easier to ride than the shit 125cc so its a win win.

PS my knowledge is about 10 years out of date so I could be wrong.


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 8:55 am
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Yeah, go straight for your category A (not A2 which is power restricted if of a certain age).

Get that and you can ride anything - as above cat A is anything above about 33 bhp and there is no limit. So get yourself a Triumph Rocket 3.


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 9:27 am
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If you already have category A on your license then surely you can ride anything you want?

You don't need to do anything other than place an order for a new Panigale V4 Corse 🙂


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 9:48 am
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As I am really old, it appears as if I can ride Category A bikes.

As above, if you do have an A licence then you can ride anything. I wasn't aware there was such a thing as a provisional A licence but I've got a full one so can't tell with mine. When I did it you took your CBT, which allowed you out on the road alone on a 125 or on a 'big' (46hp rings a bell) bike with an instructor following.

I don't think this was ever automatic though was it? Not unless you remember having to get the servant to walk in front with a red flag.


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 9:57 am
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I wasn’t aware there was such a thing as a provisional A licence

I think it's probably like when you get your first Provisional License, yeah you can ride a Cat A bike provisionally, but that means with a surly man shouting at you through a headset as he follows and tries to keep you alive. It's slightly moot because to even do that you need to complete a CBT course, doesn't matter if you want to ride a 50 or a 125, you need a CBT. Not that, that should be a barrier, the CBT is actually pretty interesting and even a bit of fun, doesn't cost much either.

As someone else said the restricted bikes are probably harder to ride than the non-restricted, the 500s I did my course and test on are probably the worse, not only are they battered and been dropped a few times, I weight an absolute ton, I was expecting my first 'proper' bike (600 CBR F4i) to be a monster, but it was the easiest bike I'd ever ridden.


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 10:58 am
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Depends on how old you are if you got you license in the military years ago, they tended to basically add all categories.

If you have valid Category A on your license you are good to go.


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 11:11 am
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Got my full licence when all you had to do was ride around the block without falling off...
Went straight out and bought a 350 lc followed by GPZ900r, managed to survive kind of...


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 11:42 am
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Thanks all. P-Jay that sounds like the probable next steps.
Category A is listed, but it’s on my “Provisionally Drive” rather than my “Can drive”.

CBT I reckon and take it from there.


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 12:54 pm
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CBT, theory test, MOD1, MOD2 and then off to the Ducati dealership 🙂


 
Posted : 20/01/2020 1:01 pm

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