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I’m sure there was a thread fairly recently on where to get jeans there are denim (and so last) rather than the ones that seem to be sold almost everywhere that are some sort of cotton Lycra mix to make them stretchy (and last for about a year)
Rivet & Hide Online plus Stores in Manchester & London, if you want to try styles out and see the difference in weights e.g 14oz v 25oz Selvedge Denim
Iron-heart Online
Hiut Denim
That will get your started
Carhartt for heavy denim that lasts . Bought some fancy nudies on a whim. Sure they look nice but are nothing like as heavy duty as even my wimpiest carhartts.
I've got some Bulletprufe denim jeans. Unfortunately only available to buy from USA but they are bloody comfortable, stretchy and seem to be very tough.
Made in UK jeans @£70, NB not tried them but substantially cheaper than others I've found.
I wear out jeans in a year or so and have been thinking about buying some hiut and taking them up on there free repair offer.
wear out jeans in a year or so and have been thinking about buying some hiut and taking them up on there free repair offer.
I’ve worn my first pair pretty much non stop for 4ish years. Still no need for a repair. Only bought a second pair for the sake of variety.
&sons are expensive but very tough. Can get them for a less extortionate price when there is a sale on.
These look worthy of consideration:
nothing wrong with a bit of lycra in among a decent mid or heavyweight denim, makes them a lot more comfortable rather than breaking them in for a year, and mine (Spoke) are holding their shape nicely.
Is ‘proper’ denim a bit like drinking ‘proper’ coffee?
Proper chips.
Has to be proper chips; non of that French-fries nonsense.
HebTroCo
Edwin worth a look too.
Any of these jeans look good on a short,fat and hairy bloke?My poundland jeans are not the best fit.YThey do last mind.
With the jeans your not supposed to wash for ages, how do you deal with the getting dirty. This might be a stupid question but it puts me off getting any.
If they get dirty then just wash them. The world isn't going to end.
If I was spending 165 quid on jeans they sure as hell wouldn't be getting dirty.
trail_rat
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If I was spending 165 quid on jeans they sure as hell wouldn’t be getting dirty.
Really? That seems mad.
Community Clothing have good looking jeans and deserve our support. UK manufacture in the North.
Really? That seems mad
In what way it's an obscene amount for a pair of jeans. I'd not be wearing them anywhere they would get dirty.
My Hiuts made it 8 months before they needed a wash, then I washed them. I cannot conceive of a situation I wouldn’t wear them (or the new pair, which only lasted 6 weeks before needing a wash) because they might get dirty.
They were more than £165.
Would you not ride a bike costing many times more because it might get dirty?
I cannot conceive of a situation I wouldn’t wear them
That's you.
I on the other hand can think that I might not want to get ep90 or 10/40 on them ?
Changing into old clothes so my jeans don't get dirty has worked well for many years albe it considerably cheaper jeans as I'm in the don't wash it camp.I'll continue to do so.
If they get damaged, I’ll send them for (free) repair. If they become discoloured, that’s patina. My 4 year old pair look nothing like they did when new. Still look good though.
I've had most of the brands mentioned on this thread. Lee 101z are my all time favourite. 13 3/4 oz left hand twill denim made by Kaihara. They take a while to break in but fade beautifully.
Getting them dirty adds to the character. Instead of washing them, stick them in the freezer.
I know Howies cops flack here, but I’ve got a recent pair of their jeans and they seem solid. Their fit is great on me.
Uniqlo Japanese selvedge denim. Comes in a range of fits, some have a degree of stretch, my last couple of pairs had no Lycra, were regular fit straight leg in dark indigo unwashed, and they had the bottom leg cuffs turned up to show that yes, really they are proper Japanese selvedge denim. The Japanese bought all the original looms from the Americans when they decided that selling shit-tons of lighter weight denim on wider looms where two pairs could be obtained from one width of cloth instead of one, and charging more for it was good business practice.
My Uniqlo jeans were £39.95. They’re like 501’s, except they don’t have any unnecessary stitching on pockets, or labels, they’re just really good, old school denim jeans.
Why buy anything else?
https://www.uniqlo.com/uk/en/product/selvedge-regular-fit-jeans-457592.html
If I was spending 165 quid on jeans they sure as hell wouldn’t be getting dirty.
I wouldn’t be spending £165 on a pair of denim jeans, when for that amount of money I could buy four pairs of probably the same quality and have change. The denim probably comes from the same mill.
Uniqlo Japanese selvedge denim.
Are they all short?
Thanks all. CZ are those ones sized with longer leg so that after turn up it is the advertised length?
Uniqlo inseam lengths have been measured in full length. Leg length options for their selvedge are not always available, haven't found any logic in times when they are available.
Great value but my newest pair does not fit as well as the previous ones, they are bit baggy and waist measurement is tight for the size.
+1 for Uniqlo and Carharrt - I've not needed to buy jeans for years because they last so well (and look great).
Are they all short?
That's what the turn ups are for. Short people.
If you're from the north west and grew up in the 90's you'll remember Josef Jeans.
Joe has gone on to build this brand and the garments especially the jeans are second to none.
Based out of Altrincham market for those in the area who fancy a look.
You people who don’t wash your jeans for months, do you not sweat in them? Don’t they start to stink? Also what is the advantage of not washing them?
Also what is the advantage of not washing them
They don't discolour (different to fade)
They don't wear as quickly
They hold their shape and fit better
Hang them out on the line on a sunny day for some lovely UV rays
what is the advantage of not washing them?
You get to tell people on the internet that you don't wash your jeans.
Thanks all. CZ are those ones sized with longer leg so that after turn up it is the advertised length?
TBH, previous pairs I bought after trying them on in one of Uniqlo’s London stores were 34”/34”, without any turnups, which gave me a comfortable waist, (normally I’m a 32”), and a leg length that was slightly long, (I’m about a 33”) but that was years ago when Uniqlo first set up in the U.K., and their waist sizes were a bit too small for the given dimensions. My last two pairs I forgot and ordered 32”/34”, and I was surprised to find the waist size was ideal, so I think they’ve adjusted them slightly for Europeans. With the turnup the length was also ideal, with them falling slightly long with a drop at the back over the heel.
Certainly whenever I’ve bought or been given any trousers, ie jeans, work, combats, etc, a 34” has been an ideal length for me, and I’ve been wearing a 32” waist for donks.
I have a sort of feeling that they might be making them slightly longer, to allow for people turning them up slightly to show they’re selvedge, which is a bit of a ‘thing’; there’s no point otherwise. Unless you’ve got stumpy legs and have to turn them up anyway, but without a selvedge the hem just looks tatty.
What do folks that never wash their jeans do about splash back from blokes urinals? That in itself is surely justification for regular washing (assuming you are a pub goer)
What do folks that never wash their jeans do about splash back from blokes urinals?
Not have shit aim.....
Another vote for Howies here.
32R fit is perfect for me and in my experience they last for years.
What do folks that never wash their jeans do about splash back from blokes urinals?
Do you change your trousers every time you go for a wee?
I thought not - so we're all walking about with pissy-pants, it's now just a matter of degree. How much piss does it take before it becomes unacceptable?
I thought not – so we’re all walking about with pissy-pants, it’s now just a matter of degree. How much piss does it take before it becomes unacceptable?
Surely that's the whole reason why we wash things. My clothes start collecting dirt etc from the moment I take them out of the wash (even if I assume they were properly clean then) and I wash them at the point where the build up of dirt, sweat etc becomes unacceptable to me. I still find it hard to believe that somebody could wear anything regularly for months without reaching that point. But clearly some folk can.
Is there something about denim in particular that makes getting it wet a bad thing?
I've not got anything against expensive jeans by the way. I bought a pair of these on a whim from a local trendy store and they are the most comfortable and best fitting jeans I'm ever likely to own. But they still get chucked in the wash after a week.
What do folks that never wash their jeans do about splash back from blokes urinals?
Do you change your trousers every time you go for a wee?
When we were students one of my mates had a pair of tracky bottoms that he wore all the time for lozzing around the house. They were referred to by everyone, including himself, as the ‘piss-pants’ because we all reckoned that the stale piss was all that was still holding them together. They eventually fell apart (yes, there was a cremation).
Given the superior structural integrity of denim, compared to tracky bottoms, they could potentially go on for ever.
The eternal piss-pants?
Is that a marketing opportunity? A USP?
I still find it hard to believe that somebody could wear anything regularly for months without reaching that point. But clearly some folk can
I’m guessing these people are all single and likely to remain so?
Because I’m damn sure that if I tried wandering around in the same item of clothing for weeks, never mind months on end, the decision on whether they were getting washed or not would have been taken out of my hands 😂
Yeah… that’s what shes telling you mate, but we all know the real secret weapon…
😉
Why buy anything else?
https://www.uniqlo.com/uk/en/product/selvedge-regular-fit-jeans-457592.html
/blockquote>Because they're cheap for a reason? No such thing as a free lunch.
"According to Oxfam's 2019 report, "Made in Poverty - The True Cost of Fashion", this company sources from Bangladesh and Vietnam. Some of the many disturbing findings of the research in Bangladesh were that 100 per cent of workers interviewed were not paid a living wage, nine out of ten could not afford enough food for themselves and their families until their next monthly pay and seven out of 10 could not pay for medical treatment when they were sick or injured. In Vietnam, 99 per cent were not paid a living wage and seven out of 10 women interviewed felt their pay was not enough to meet their needs.
Source: Oxfam Australia (2019)"https://guide.ethical.org.au/company/?company=5306
https://goodonyou.eco/how-ethical-is-uniqlo/
It is a good provocation.
A lens to apply to all purchases, the challenge being to get an objective and balanced view.
Bought my first pair of HebTroCo jeans the other week. Cracking quality. Well happy with them. I intend to wear them for a year before I wash them to get a cool contrast on the fade. I’m single though so don’t give a ****. First thing I did though was get in the shower with them on then go and sit in the sun until dry after doing a few lunges. Fit like a glove now.
I’m guessing these people are all single and likely to remain so?
Mrs Reeksy sews her own clothes (including jeans) using fabric from a company that sources the remnants from the textile industry. She's the person who told me to put jeans in the freezer.
My problem though is that all of my trousers wear out where my thigh gap isn't, long before the rest of the fabric. Even motorbike kevlar reinforced jeans wear out in that spot. Drives me nanas.
I’m single though so don’t give a ****. First thing I did though was get in the shower with them on then go and sit in the sun until dry after doing a few lunges. Fit like a glove now.
Blimey the things single people get up to!
😂
What’s this thing about putting them in the freezer?
Supposedly kills the bacteria that live on unwashed jeans. YMMV
Also why hanging them out on the line on sunny days is good for them.
Well now what am I going to do with the clothes chest freezer 🤷
I’m single though so don’t give a ****. First thing I did though was get in the shower with them on then go and sit in the sun until dry after doing a few lunges. Fit like a glove now.
Blimey the things single people get up to!
And then wonder why they're single 😉
(I'm also single, but don't have the time or inclination for any of that shit)
I am struggling to beat Levi's at around £30. I like 511 and 513. 513 doesn't have lycra or the likes but 511 does. They wear equally well and last equally well, as in for years and years.
So you shouldn't put them in the wash but you should get in the shower with them on 🙂
I am struggling to beat Levi’s at around £30.
Where are you getting Levi's for £30! 1984! 🙂
Plenty for 30 quid on ebay.
Are they legit. I'd put a shiny penny on no.
Where are you getting Levi’s for £30! 1984! 🙂
I just got a new genuine 511 for £23 delivered, and it's not even an unpopular size (32/32).
So you shouldn’t put them in the wash but you should get in the shower with them on 🙂
And then, to reduce the odour, put your piss-stained (and almost certainly skid-marked*) trousers in the freezer alongside the food you're planning to eat over the next few weeks.
* because if you wear your jeans for a year solid then who knows how long your undies have been on you.
😀
I just got a new genuine 511 for £23 delivered, and it’s not even an unpopular size (32/32).
Link please! 😀
I couldn’t find 513 on the Levi site?
They're special ones, only available for afficionados. If you can't find them, it's because you're not allowed to 😉
So you shouldn’t put them in the wash but you should get in the shower with them on
🙂
But that's only four days. Amateurs 🙂
I’ve got a vision now of the denim purists getting out of the shower and climbing into a chest freezer in their sopping wet jeans 😃
Link please! 😀
It's sold now. Was up for £25 so offered £20 which they accepted. £3 postage. I paid £27 for one a few weeks ago. Have a search on eBay they're is always a good deal for one.
Anything £30 or under for a genuine Levi's is enough to prevent me from looking elsewhere.
Levi’s (and Wranglers) can be had for 30-40 quid a pop in TK Maxx
With regard to all this showering, sitting in baths and freezers nonsense, do you not think that your jeans fit best when they’re freshly laundered and just off the washing line? I know I do.
Surely if you’ve been wearing them for weeks you’ve just got a massive sack-arse?
And then wonder why they’re single 😉
No wondering here. I’ve done my sentence. Been out with some cracking ladies over years but I’ve had enough, I’ve done my time. Hopefully if I keep my head down it will stay that way. Wearing jeans for a year might help that 💪
Getting jeans wet by the way is not going to affect the colour. I didn’t like have a wash in them. I hope anyway 🤔
With regard to all this showering, sitting in baths and freezers nonsense, do you not think that your jeans fit best when they’re freshly laundered and just off the washing line? I know I do.
Me too. I’ve got some Levi’s and some Lee jeans that look perfect when they’re fresh on. Then after about an hour they go all saggy dad-jeans 😠
@b33k34 - yes. It's called the Fabric Store
It's based in NZ and Oz, but they have an international site.
So you shouldn’t put them in the wash but you should get in the shower with them on 🙂
If you read the Grauniad article it says you don't need to get in the shower with them on either as the current fabrics don't shrink to fit anyway.
do you not think that your jeans fit best when they’re freshly laundered and just off the washing line?
Not at all they feel crunchy and not at all flexible.
Day 1 after washing is the worst day ever.
Forget all this denim nonsense, Scruffs workpants is where its at.
Diesel make great, long lasting, fashionable jeans which I do wash regularly.