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Can anyone explain the appeal to me, other than a combination of pure vanity/having too much time and money?
If it spells out your name or that of your business, I would kinda get it. But to spend £550+ on something that you could end up with by pot luck (4 generic characters then your initials) just seems unbelievably stupid/pretentious.
Obviously it's a completely individual decision and it's not for me to criticise how people spend their hard-earned dosh, but there is a background story to this; My younger sister turns 21 in January, and my mum has asked my wife and I to make a contribution along with the rest of the family so that she can get a private reg plate for her birthday.
As above, I'd understand if it were a meaningful number or whatever, but it's really not. It's a number you could quite easily end up with by chance!
Although, I guess that's besides the point - I just don't understand why anyone would want one..? What's the benefit? Am I just a grumpy sod who's not "hip" or "with it"?
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They're a bit chavy, and they cause an extra layer of 'dicking about' when it comes to selling/buying cars as you have to unregister it and reregister it to the new car each time which I think costs money - £85 from what I remember. (might be wrong)
It's a faff, so much so that my GF didn't bother putting hers on her most recent car as the paperwork is a ballache. And shes also grown up and realises how they're a bit chavy now.
You've understood the point of them pretty well. I'd just slip £20 into a card and not spend any more time thinking about it.
I don't either, but as you've just mentioned I expect gifting is common. I've seen plenty of variations around [H1 LUV] and such over the years.
The ones I really don't understand are the vehicle-specific ones, like having a BMW X5 with [X5 ***] on it. What happens when you buy something else?
Anyone with a plate starting B16 will be first up against the wall...
What's the benefit? Am I just a grumpy sod who's not "hip" or "with it"?
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Obviously it's a completely individual decision and it's not for me to criticise how people spend their hard-earned dosh
Not really doing a good job there 🙂
You de-register it and sell it on to some other mug presumably.The ones I really don't understand are the vehicle-specific ones, like having a BMW X5 with [X5 ***] on it. What happens when you buy something else?
I really like the idea, but to get one with my initials on is expensive, so I'm going to change my name to ML07 OUB. Not going to have any problems getting a Gmail address either!
Not really doing a good job there
You'd be right, except I'm being asked to spend my hard-earned dosh on one for someone else.
I don't care too much about chucking £30 or £40 into - If i were buying her a gift it would probably be around that value anyway, or perhaps a bit more as it's her 21st. It just seems like a really odd thing to want.
AR50 MAY
For those Article 50, Theresa May lovers out there.
I don't get private reg at all, but I don't get people spending loads of money on bikes/watches etc. Each to their own I guess
A colleague of mine at work spends £hundreds on routine hair weave. which means she's often reluctant to go out in the rain, it's bonkers... She in turn finds my mountain bike habit mystifying.
different strokes...
I know a guy who was awarded an MBE. He was (apparently) very embarrassed and humbled about it, didn't think he deserved it and didn't want anyone to know.
Within week of going to the palace he had a new number plate ending MBE.
Be a brave soul who goes for BR3 X1T (is it even possible?)
Mine cost £250. For a start you can't tell the age of the car, mine is nearly 11 years old now but looks immaculate and almost new. You may call that vanity if you wish.
I really like the idea, but to get one with my initials on is expensive, so I'm going to change my name to ML07 OUB. Not going to have any problems getting a Gmail address either!
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plyphon - MemberAR50 MAY
For those Article 50, Theresa May lovers out there.
Instaban the bastard! Do it now! 😀
I think it depends on how personalised the plate is. I know someone whose plate correctly spells out his full surname without any leftover letters. It looks quite cool, especially as he is about 100 and drives an nice old Jaguar. It must have cost a fortune though.
I thought people had private plates so you could easily
spot the T055 ERS
You can't tell the age of the car
I think most people could tell a car was about 11 years old regardless of reg plate.
Chap near me has one of the few good ones.
GR05 CON
He drives to his house in France.
Some folk buy as an investment in the hope of appreciation on a specific combination of letters numbers they may think are valuable in the future.
I bought mine a few years back for 300quid, had it valued recently at over 1800, whats not to like.
It just seems like a really odd thing to want.
Maybe she thinks riding bikes is odd, who'd have thunk it, people liking and wanting different things. It's almost as if we're all different.
They're not for me, and I think they're naff but each to their own.
The ones I really don't understand are the vehicle-specific ones, like having a BMW X5 with [X5 ***]
I don't understand these either. Is it because you forget what model car you drive? Or, in case everyone else doesn't recognise an X5, you kindly remind them by putting it on your number plate.
(I see more X5 number plates, not many X3 or X1. Does this say something about X 5 drivers?)
plyphon - Member
AR50 MAYFor those Article 50, Theresa May lovers out there.
Instaban the bastard! Do it now!
Or in 33 years time.
🙂 @ CFH
ISTR that France didn’t issue KK & PD plates to avoid offence.
Spend your money where you like, what annoys the bejesus out of me are the incomprehensible to read ones..
Those that have added letters or numbers or are spaced to spell words (that don't even exist sometimes)
Makes me think these days its a free for all to do what you like with number plates, for the amount I see on the roads that are spaced so oddly to make something like: A 5NOBB underlines that fact that PLOD turn a blind eye to them and Cameras can't grasp any ANPR data off them..
Might do mine one day: WHO 5AST ( the 5 is a G, for the hard of thinking)
the ones i dont get are the ones who have to use illegal spacing to make any sense.....
when ever i see one with illegal spacing i instantly think - tosser.
the rest i couldnt give a shit about how they spend their money.
Look on autotrader for the pimped up range rovers, truly awful mods on a nice car. The private plates reveal the sort of person who owns them.
Might do mine one day: WHO 5AST
Doesn't exist and neither does CLA 55Y
The ones I really don't understand are the vehicle-specific ones, like having a BMW X5 with [X5 ***]
My secondhand TT came with X2 ATT. Plate went with it when I sold it.
Nice if you have a short name. My sister's family are V6NN_ so each gets a number plate with their initial - including the children. I had S44BDR on retention, but decided against a SAAB in the end - Eos had more room for the kids. There is a business with that name.
I was almost mown down by a septic tank lorry on a TT. SH17TER may have been the number, but I was too terrified and the road too rough for my Fly6 to get a good image.
My dad got one for his car to celebrate his being married to my mum for 30 years. So romantic.
No, I don't get it either.
My reg is M11 TUT, I like it as it means regular users of the M5 recognise my BMW so they get out of the way, cuts down on the amount of tailgating I have to do.
NI plate rather than 'private' and done to hide the age.
I have no shame
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Mate of mine has a private reg. He swops it over each time he gets a newer car, which he does every two years. This year he swopped a petrol for a diesel to save £140 on road tax. He drives 1,100 miles a year. To swop the plates cost him £170. I'm not sure the people with private plates are always that rational an individual.
Since you can't really get away with taxing stupidity directly, this is an effective alternative.
I had S44BDR on retention, but decided against a SAAB in the end - Eos had more room for the kids. There is a business with that name.I was almost mown down by a septic tank lorry on a TT. SH17TER
Talking of which it's always amazing the amount of made up shit you get on these number plate threads on here 🙂
The NI plate was only £79 so seemed a reasonable cost to replace R777 XYZ or what ever.
The only argument I can make in their favour is that they can obscure precise model years of vehicles.
I know you will probably just take it for granted and say it's no big deal, but I find the display of vehicle model years really aggravating. Rather than car lovers (and even passive car lovers) being able to identify their vehicle with a 'mark' or an era, it ends up being pinpointed by year, which surely diminishes both real and perceived value, and can then encourage unnecessary buying and selling.
As far as I know, only Ireland and GB make the year of manufacture so obvious on the reg plate.
Apart from car model changes it hides the age of the vehicle reasonably well, so somewhat frees someone susceptible to peer pressure from worrying about it.
Lots of people do succumb to that age pressure - witness the rush to buy cars around the time the new plates come out, and the move to changing the plates twice a year to try and smooth that out.
Same applies a bit to having a 'boutique' bike.
Vanity plates are a way of making something mass-produced a bit more personalised, like putting plastic eyelashes round the headlights, or "princess on board" stickers, or "Darren Tracey" stuff on the windscreen, or a golf ball gear knob ... the list is endless. People spend a lot of time with their cars and for youngsters it's like their first home, particular now they won't be able to afford a real one.
Years ago I worked on a job creation scheme ("Community Programme") and one of the lads bought his first car - Mk3 Cortina - for £150. He then went to Halfords and bought some faux tiger-skin seat covers. From then on, every lunch break he wouldn't sit in the caravan like the others, but sit in his car listening to music on the cassette player. The other lads took the piss and called him Tony the Tiger, but he loved that car and it's "chavvy" seat covers. Many years on the guy who shares our office does much the same in his Range Rover with wheels that have 1000 bolts round the outside. It's all about personalisation and a bit of aspiration.
I have one. It's currently on it's fourth car.
I have two excellent reasons for it.
1. I like it
2. I don't give a monkey's hump if anybody else dislikes it.
Gary_M - Member
Might do mine one day: WHO 5AST
Doesn't exist and neither does CLA 55Y
Who cares, its the kinda thing you see all the time on the roads these days. But you seem to be in the land of Pedant so maybe have a word with the Nobs that manipulate the Regd Numbers rather than here on a forum discussing them.
PLOD doesn't care, thats a given.
SaxonRider - MemberI know you will probably just take it for granted and say it's no big deal, but I find the display of vehicle model years really aggravating. Rather than car lovers (and even passive car lovers) being able to identify their vehicle with a 'mark' or an era, it ends up being pinpointed by year, which surely diminishes both real and perceived value, and can then encourage unnecessary buying and selling.
As far as I know, only Ireland and GB make the year of manufacture so obvious on the reg plate.
I can't find any sense or coherent logic in this post tbh. Stupid plates hide the year to everyone who doesn't care, and anyone who knows anything about cars will know what year it is (accurate to within about 3 years at most) or they can just use the device in their pocket to find out exactly, and anyone who has a genuine interest in it, like a prospective buyer will need to know exactly anyway ❓
I've gotten to know a lot of petrol heads over the years, top reasons seem to be:
1) hide the age of it - a £1000 15 year old S-Class with a £200 bit of plastic will still impress the neighbours.
2) It's another thing to spend money on - so you've turbo'd the engine, fitted terrible suspension and spent £500 on 'detailing' crap - what's left? Buy a number plate.
3) They think it's worth a fortune. There was a time, 20 years ago when there was a massive bubble with private reg plates and they sold for huge sums, there we auctions and all sorts, but like every bubble the arse fell out of it at some point - I think the 'problem' is the most people don't realise how many combinations of numbers and letters are possible within the set format of number plates - put any combination in to a Reg re-selling site and they'll tell you it's worth thousands, and it *possibly* is to the right person, but it's a buyers market, in fact it's so far that way that if you owned one and you wanted to sell it this very moment, it's all but worthless - I owned one for a bit, came with a car - I've always hated them, but the seller sold the car "private reg, worth £2k" on a £4k car, I never believed him of course, but I thought if I could sell it for a few hundred i'd do it to be free of the thing - I registered it with a seller, it's still on their site now 7 years later (5 after I sold the car) not a single enquiry.
Who cares, its the kinda thing you see all the time on the roads these days. But you seem to be in the land of Pedant so maybe have a word with the Nobs that manipulate the Regd Numbers rather than here on a forum discussing them.
Ooft touched a nerve there. Just because you can't get the registration plate you want don't get all uppity with me son.
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Like it.
You missed the point 😆
I have two. Both were gifts. The first was a gift from my (now) wife. I was 22 and the time, My car was a V reg - V22MJM. The second was a gift from my parents when I graduated uni in 2011 - W11MJM. I had two cars at the time. V22 has been on every main car I've owned and W11 was on the second car (which I currently don't have).
I really don't care what people think and they're neither pretentious, nor chavvy IMO-it's just some people like to personalise things. As for mine, they're as much a part of my car life as anything else and i'll be keeping them for as long as i'm allowed.
I don't get it either but I do have one on both my car and motorbike. Car coz it's company car & bike coz 6 digits instead of 7 = legal small plate 8) the bike one doesn't spell or pretend to spell anything & the car one you'd only understand if you knew who I work for.
PS can someone buy me D1CKY for my birthday
Mine cost £250. For a start you can't tell the age of the car, mine is nearly 11 years old now but looks immaculate and almost new. You may call that vanity if you wish.
I don't know that I'd call that vanity - You clearly look after your car and it's something you take pride in. I understand that, and I can see why you would want a private reg plate.
Maybe she thinks riding bikes is odd
Riding bikes is very odd.
I guess it's just because I know my sister and while her car is ok (a 2008 mini) she doesn't look after it and it's certainly not immaculate, so wanting this private reg plate has clearly nothing to do with pride in her car.
She's a very materialistic person (has a collection of fashion accessories worth god knows how much) and regularly gets birthday/xmas gifts costing £500 or more (handbags, clothes etc.) so I kinda think this is just the next in a line of fancy stuff she wants, but doesn't really know why...
As a broader point of principle though, private reg plates are the perfect example of modern capitalism. Take Corundum's plate that's valued at £1800 - the only justification for that price is that people want it. There are no R&D costs, there are no complex moving parts, there are very few logistical costs associated with it (bearing in mind he bought it for £300 a few years ago) and it doesn't functionally do anything. Nevertheless it's "worth" £1800. You could buy a bike for that money! 😆
Gary_M - Member
Might do mine one day: WHO 5AST
Doesn't exist and neither does CLA 55Y
Yes it does: https://www.mycarcheck.com/check/?reg_no=cla55y
A genuine question to all the people who don't get it.
Does the rear windscreen of your car have a sticker on it with the name of the car dealership it was purchased from?
That's one that I don't get.
Why would you drive about for years giving free advertising to someone who was undoubtedly done their very best to stitch you up?
I see this all the time, far more commonly than I see private plates.
This one, in particular, grinds my gears because reasons...
Does the rear windscreen of your car have a sticker on it with the name of the car dealership it was purchased from?That's one that I don't get.
Slightly different situation. If my car was bought from dealership A and came with a sticker in the window, I wouldn't go out my way and pay several hundred £ to replace with with a sicker from dealer B.
I'd imagine most people simply don't notice or don't care enough to remove it.
Come to think of it, I have no idea if there's a sticker in the rear window of my car.
I used to have an old sports car with an NI plate the previous owner had put on, most folk weren't familiar with the car model so it hid the age well as it was in good condition. It was in a wacky font though I quickly changed it for a standard font plate. Sold it again with the car.
Not a fan of funny fonts though on my current imported motor I sometimes get told my (non private) plate is illegal because it uses smaller motorcycle sized font - it is allowed when the bumper on an import does not have space for a full size plate.
I don't know that I'd call that vanity - You clearly look after your car and it's something you take pride in. I understand that, and I can see why you would want a private reg plate.
The thing is if I had an 11 year old car that was immaculate and in 'as new' condition I'd rather people knew it was old.
Does the rear windscreen of your car have a sticker on it with the name of the car dealership it was purchased from
Gets taken off as soon as I collect the car.
CLA 55Y doesn't exist according to DVLA, may have been scrapped or torched by a rival drug dealer 🙂
@Mudshark - That's cool. If I had enough money to have a Bentley AND an Aston, I'd have em registered with something clever like that.
It's very different from having a fairly nondescript private plate on a fairly nondescript car though.
I have no idea if there's a sticker in the rear window of my car.
Maybe why that's you don't get it.
Some people care more (or less) about how some things look.
I hate stickers on cars but like my number plate beacuse I think it looks better.
£200 on the price of a car is not really very much.
It's not about vanity ( on my 8 year old, dirty SMax )or trying to look posh or adding value ( my plate cost £250 and is worthless to anyone else but me)
It lends an additional emotional attachment to the car that I like. That's it.
I always take the sticker off the rear window when I get a new (to me) car as I agree with the advertising thing and often they reduce visibility.
I have never felt the desire to have a different number plate though.
If you really want idiocy personified a girl I worked with had her normal number plate re-spaced so it looked almost like a personal plate but was just a big standard one.
****ing idiot
perchypanther - MemberMaybe why that's you don't get it.
Some people care more (or less) about how some things look.
[i]I'll just quote myself from three months ago.... [/i]
We get it, but they never look good, they never fit your name and more importantly, random strangers don't want or need to know your name, nickname, initials or your profession, nor do they want to engage in a somewhat involuntary guessing game as to what the hell you are trying to spell in some kind of garbled moron speak.
Of the 30 million or so cars on the road the vast majority are anonymous and relatively invisible as the number plates aren't some narcissistic statement of misplaced self importance.
Do people with p3r50nal13d registrations feel the need have a giant banner on the roof of their house announcing their identity to passers by? Do they have t-shirts with their names printed on them so complete strangers will know who they are when they walk around town?
I once passed a tiny little man in Belfast who looked a lot like the boxer Carl Frampton. "That looks like Carl Frampton" I thought for a split second before I read his t-shirt which said [b]CARL FRAMPTON[/b].
Oh how I muttered derisively.
[/sarcasm] [/devilsadvocate] [insertsmileyface] [insertfiendishsmileyface]
Maybe why that's you don't get it.
You're probably right. Although I know several petrolheads, and people who just like to have nice cars, which I understand (although I couldn't give two monkeys myself) - it's the same as me liking nice bikes, and liking to have nice bikes.
As per my previous post though, this all stems from this issue with my sister, who I know doesn't give a sh*t about her car. It's always filthy and full of junk, and she has to be reminded by her mum every year that it needs to be serviced. It just seems to me to be an exercise in "what can I splurge a load of money on this year?"
I have two excellent reasons for it.1. I like it
2. I don't give a monkey's hump if anybody else dislikes it.
You forgot no. 3 Perchy.....I'm a Chav! 🙂
bikebouy - MemberLike it.
You missed the point
I didn't, you missed me not missing the point.
p3r50nal13d doesn't exist by the way.
this all stems from this issue with my sister
mmm just sit down on the couch and tell me all about it....
What I don't get is why people have them on low spec cars?
Spend the money on getting a betterer car? 😆
What I don't get is why people have them on low spec cars?
Spend the money on getting a betterer car?
How much betterer a car would you get for £250?
I used to see the registration 'A3' near where I lived at the time, thing was it was on a shabby mattalic lime green 3 series estate. It was, apparently a family heirloom, which they'd owned from new and it was just passed from car to car
You forgot no. 3 Perchy.....I'm a Chav!
There are no such thing as chavs where I live.
We have neds.
A genuine question to all the people who don't get it.Does the rear windscreen of your car have a sticker on it with the name of the car dealership it was purchased from?
That's one that I don't get.
Yes, but that pretty much explains - I think even the most anti-car, car owner takes a little tiny bit of pride in their car, but it's only a tiny bit - car comes with a couple of plastic plates with AB17 BCD or whatever and "S****horpe Skoda" on a little sticker at the bottom of the rear window and that's how it's stays, most peoples level of giving a monkeys about how it looks starts and ends with running it through the car wash once a month.
It's the same thinking that makes someone pay hundreds to change the plastic plates that makes them climb in the boot to remove the dealer sticker.
Oh, and once I tried, they seemed to have fashioned the thing to the glass with dried wheatabix or something, Superman couldn't shift it.
mmm just sit down on the couch and tell me all about it....
Yeah, in hindsight I should have phrased that better.
i used to think they were for bellends only, but then someone I know bought an M3 and promptly adorned it with the plate M3 OOH YH which made me chuckle
climb in the boot to remove the dealer sticker.
I always remove them and just stand outside the car to do it.
Razor blade slide under the sticker, gone in less than 60 seconds.
RU4 REAL
Seen more than one person who used a razor blade then need a new screen as they've buggered the element....
Are all heated screen not built into the glass now?
If anyone wants an Arnold Clark sticker removing from their car I'll take great pleasure in removing it personally.
I've done loads.
If anyone wants an Arnold Clark sticker removing from their car I'll take great pleasure in removing it personally.I've done loads.
Jings,that winda licking skill came in handy 😛 😉
jimjam - MemberSaxonRider - Member
I know you will probably just take it for granted and say it's no big deal, but I find the display of vehicle model years really aggravating.
I can't find any sense or coherent logic in this post tbh. Stupid plates hide the year to everyone who doesn't care, and anyone who knows anything about cars will know what year it is (accurate to within about 3 years at most) or they can just use the device in their pocket to find out exactly, and anyone who has a genuine interest in it, like a prospective buyer will need to know exactly anyway
TurnerGuy, who posted right after I did, pretty much nails it. Take a look at his support for my argument.




