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He is not much more than a privileged boy running out of money,hence the TV shit and biography. If he really wanted to disappear it would be easy enough.
Where does he go from here though?
Now we've got the clickbait stuff the next Netflix/interview/book/rant can't exactly be about his favourite knitting pattern. He sounds like he's just gotta keep throwing potentially more and more sordid details out there to keep relevant.
I suspect she’s just a normal everyday screwed up person like everyone else…
Yeah, most people stalk Princes at university!
He sounds like he’s just gotta keep throwing potentially more and more sordid details out there to keep relevant.
Depends if he wants to be relevant or just get a decent amount of cash.
The current plan seems to be providing the latter so as long as they start investing it well and dont spend to much they will be sorted.
The only thing I’ve taken any notice of is that allegedly this rift with his brother started when he found out he was boffing the next door neighbour
More sordid details would be appreciated.... Missed the gossip on this one.
Will it? Not sure who would buy it.
Many many will buy it because there is one thing the average brit loves and that is gossip. If they didnt, the DM wouldnt have anything like to numbers of H&M articles they print daily. Yesterday they had 28, all negative, all sensationalized and the comments section had several hundred replies on each.
Read the book for themselves ?,I reckon so, basically so they can use it as a reference for their own comment.
Read the book for themselves ?,I reckon so, basically so they can use it as a reference for their own comment.
I am not sure many of them bother with that level of research. Aside from anything else with celebrity biographies the "good" stuff will be stuck on the front page.
"Squaddie writes book about dysfunctional childhood and upbringing, tells tall tales about his service."
Can I find this in the military non-fiction part of Waterstones with the rest of the equally turgid books by Ant Middleton etc al?
Harry
Ghostwriter this is Spare.
Requesting permission for a lie buy.
Tower ( of London)
Negative Ghostwriter, the library is full at this time.
Harry.
Full, haha
Tower
Goddammit
News from aged relatives in Oz Harry got frost bite on his todger.
More sordid details would be appreciated…. Missed the gossip on this one.
Not linking in case it is vaguely troublesome for STW but easily found if you want to - google it. The search terms are sufficiently in earlier posts.
(note that googling William Neighbour doesn't work because he's a basketball player and also a really lovely chap that used to coach the kids at Surrey sports park as well as play in the BBL)
Ah... Googles for 0.2 seconds...
Never had him pegged to be like that.
Never had him pegged to be like that
Off to refine my googling 😯
I am not sure many of them bother with that level of research.
You underestimate the dedication of your average daily mail hate monger 😆
Someone will have read it for them and be pumping it out in tweet sized snippets for them to yell into their echo chambers.
Or do I mean epistemic bubble?
Gosh what a mean lot some of you are with heartless comments.
Harry needs help. He's in turmoil, probably suffering from deep rooted mental health issues over his mother and maybe PTSD (others have mentioned this).
And if you can't see that Charles is his father then you need glasses.
N.B. I have not seen any netflix series about the couple or have any intention of reading this 'Spare' book.
I don’t get it. At all. Getting away from hateful family, that I understand. Trying to sell everything I possibly can to make them look bad whilst asking for and making a ton of money, but at the cost of quite possibly irreparably damaging your reputation. Why?
I used to have a massive amount of respect for Harry and I thought it was very brave to walk away from all your security and almost all you’ve known, but his/their method of selling secrets really flies in the face of his comments on the media, privacy, etc.
I’ve stopped reading any of it as I don’t trust any of it. It’s like a product review. People only comment on the negatives.
I used to have a massive amount of respect for Harry and I thought it was very brave to walk away from all your security and almost all you’ve known, but his/their method of selling secrets really flies in the face of his comments on the media, privacy, etc.
I agree entirely with this.
Harry needs help. He’s in turmoil, probably suffering from deep rooted mental health issues over his mother and maybe PTSD (others have mentioned this).
this for sure - a damaged individual. His issues go way before the death of his mother
And if you can’t see that Charles is his father then you need glasses.
He looks a darn sight more like Hewitt IMO
Harry needs help. He’s in turmoil, probably suffering from deep rooted mental health issues over his mother and maybe PTSD (others have mentioned this).
Possibly just for the camera. The couple attend many dances/events and the like and look like they're having a very good time of it.
He looks a darn sight more like Hewitt IM
I'm no fan of any royal but he looks like a Spencer. There's no need to buy into prurient gossip to explain his looks.
He is not much more than a privileged boy running out of money,hence the TV shit and biography. If he really wanted to disappear it would be easy enough.
I very much doubt he and his wife will ever run out of money. The worlds press seem to have an opinion on everything they do so they sorta have the right to use their platform to say something back i figure. And the idea they could "disappear" is crazy because thats worked so well for even the most minor celebrity hasn't it. im by no means a royal and think some of the stuff hes said done is stupid, I just think this view is an over simplification.
Possibly just for the camera. The couple attend many dances/events and the like and look like they’re having a very good time of it.
that does not preclude mental health issues
He is not much more than a privileged boy...
Financially, sure. But I wouldn't swap places, however much you paid me.
I’m no fan of any royal but he looks like a Spencer. There’s no need to buy into prurient gossip to explain his looks.
yeah, I’m no follower of royal stuff either, so I did a bit of google image searching and honest appraising and my money’s on Hewitt, just about. Harry does look a little bit like a Spencer, but also a bit like a Hewitt, and not a great deal like a Windsor. Would explain the lack of love and excess of tension between the brothers and their father. It’s hardly the most unlikely possibility in the world, why would it be such a surprise? Yeah it would be considered ‘juicy gossip, but that doesn’t make it less likely. They say a significant percentage of people haven’t got the biological father that they thought they did.
Hmmmm
But Whatevs
The media love to hate him, they obsessed endlessly about him having to make his own money when he quit the royal life... well this is it
And those commentators professing outrage & stirring up the hatred know that it sells papers & they need him
It's all hypocrisy and fake drama
The real outrage here in the middle of the cosy livs* is that the taxpayer paid of nonce Andrews £12 million fine & that the royals pay no inheritance tax.
*scouse slang for cost of living crisis
They say a significant percentage of people haven’t got the biological father that they thought they
I worked with a genomics lab that investigated rare diseases, about 1 in 10, 3 generation families had at least 1 kid whos dna didn't match the official line
I agree with Kimbers, Harry and his family have had to endure being thrown under the bus whenever the press have attacked them, of course they're not saints, but you look at the negative press they've had throughout their relationship, the amount of stories coming from 'royal insiders' or 'royal correspondents' that have snowballed for them is keeping the press in business, put that up against the complete and utter lack of any negative press for Wills and Kate, and the number of puff pieces they get throughout the year and you can see why they'd be a bit miffed.
The royals are struggling, Charles is currently in the honeymoon period of being the King so making no waves, but reality is, a lot of peoples support for the monarchy wained when the Queen passed away, the press are probably counting the days they can start negative campaigns against him and Camilla.
If he feels hard done by being the spare- what about Edward, the spare’s spare!
The press don’t like the backlash from him and his wife. And a lot of the public side with the press, often without even realising it. They get in our heads so well with their drip drip repetition when they want to take someone down. Well, they’ll never stop stabbing at him and those closest to him… he should fight back by any means possible… don’t be demure, don’t quietly take it, fight dirty with any means he has, be it in the courts or in a book… push back… fight fire with fire on all fronts.
googling William Neighbour doesn’t work because he’s a basketball player and also a really lovely chap
Had a look, all I found was the brothers being neighbours at various points over the last eleventy years. Nothing about anyone knobbing the neighbour(s).
I'm not going to read any of the royal stuff one way or another. I've turned the radio off a few times this last week. My main take away from all this is if Charles treats one of his sons like this and the next in line for the throne acts like claimed then these over privileged muppets are not my representatives and it pretty much kills any last apathy towards royalty I'm now a republican, unless they sort out extra bank holidays, preferably on a Friday when I don't have the kids so I can get a cheeky days riding in.
Your google fu is seriously weak!!
There’s been a few clues in the thread.
I’ll probably get a ban….but search the words Prince of Pegging
It’s all just salicious rumour by the looks of things.
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Well, thank you for that Woodster. Now I've learned something new and will have to google 'delete browser history'.
William likes receiving it in the rear from a man/lady with a strap on?
Well that's new to me, I'm well out of the loop. That news never made it as far as the Vaterland, as far as I'm aware.
This is better than any episode of Bridgerton....
Wouldn't put it past (or up, 😉) any of them....
As the saying goes.....
One up the bum,
No harm done.
Touch your toes,
Up it..... 😘
Chap from ITV (I think) posted up some excerpts from the book. I'm not about to grab a copy of my own but the press have definitely been selectively quoting and putting their own spin on the stories.
And the idea they could “disappear” is crazy because thats worked so well for even the most minor celebrity hasn’t it.
Worked for Enya, buy a castle and fill it full of cats and artisan drapes. Pull up draw bridge. Job jobbed!
Daffy
Full Memberbut his/their method of selling secrets really flies in the face of his comments on the media, privacy, etc.
The thing is, it didn't work, and quite a bit of time has passed. It's not like he left the royals, said "I want privacy" and then the next day released a book. He left the royals, wanted some normalcy, didn't get it, got years of sledging and "insider sources say" and casual racism towards his wife and all that crap, this is a reaction to all of that. He said how he wanted it to go, it didn't happen, he's changed his position based on how the reality has turned out. It's not in a vacuum
William likes receiving it in the rear from a man/lady with a strap on?
Well that’s new to me, I’m well out of the loop. That news never made it as far as the Vaterland, as far as I’m aware.
That will make an interesting episode of 'The Crown'
😯
The Brown?
Just did a Google search as per instructions earlier.....😳
The Brown?
Hurray!
Was last night one in the eye for William, or was he watching the Harry interview on TV?
This guy is nuts. Reconciliation after this book and interview(s)? I get the distinct impression he's not in charge of this here gravy train; he's being advised and steered and enabled and goaded on by folk around him for their benefit and not his. He's certainly good product, for the media. A very naïve and damaged individual. The Sid Vicious of the Windsors.
Still, he's keeping Nonce Andy out of the spotlight for a bit!
This guy is nuts.
Or he's the sanest one in a family of nutters.
I can't believe this dull shit is all over the news again! Didn't we have enough of the book promotion last week? Is there really nothing else happening in the world or is there something being hidden from all us ****ing morons so obsessed with what the royal family are up to?
I can’t believe this dull shit is all over the news again! Didn’t we have enough of the book promotion last week? Is there really nothing else happening in the world or is there something being hidden from all us **** morons so obsessed with what the royal family are up to?
I know. It's so dull that this thread has actually begun generating it's own gravitational field that sucks forum members in against their will. Once they find themselves trapped here all they can do is rage about this issue being dull and how they can't see how anyone could possibly be interested.
Loves an 99 though.
I can’t believe this dull shit is all over the news again!
The Government must be loving it. Time for some more dismantling of the NHS, maybe a few more expenses to pop through, a bit of anti-strike legislation...
All while the mainstream right wing rags are full of H&M.
Yea, I agree with Northwind on this one. He left, gave his reasons in that Oprah interview, and I assume would have left it at that if they'd just gone off to do whatever it is they wanted to do.
'The media' then continued to run stories on them*, so 'eff 'em, good on them for having the cajones to go full nuclear.
*and it doesn't take a genius to hypothesize out where they were fed from. Even if not every story came from "an anonymous source at the palace", it's that that kept them in the news and made other negative stories valuable. And what's in the mails gossip column ends up in the rest of the news even if you neither read the Mail or Gossip rags.
I know. It’s so dull that this thread has actually begun generating it’s own gravitational field that sucks forum members in against their will.
And what's even duller is someone responding by saying how dull the previous opinion was. That's really ****ing dull. So was that. It is like a gravitational pull of utter dullness.
The Vantablack of emotional investment?
And what’s even duller is someone responding by saying how dull the previous opinion was. That’s really **** dull. So was that. It is like a gravitational pull of utter dullness.
I'm actually less interested than you are, and so is my wife.
Amid all the journalistic bollocks surrounding Harry I've just read a piece by a republican army veteran in the Guardian that replys to some of the bollocks quite well:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/08/prince-harry-afghanistan-deaths-spare
‘The media’ then continued to run stories on them*, so ‘eff ’em, good on them for having the cajones to go full nuclear.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
They can't win - the media has decided to destroy them, so they may as well go down fighting....
I feel quite sorry for him, he can't be very happy right now (or at all with that family).
Well, it's Tuesday, what will Prince Harry Reveal today?
I find it insane that the general public seem to be more outraged about Harry's whining than they were about Andrew paying millions of pounds to silence a victim of sex trafficking (despite having never met her). See also arms sales, racism, bullying, his wife selling access to him etc etc.
The remarkable thing about Harry is is total lack of awareness of real life issues. He sits in his mansion, being paid millions of pounds to talk about family fall outs and press being intrusive. Sure, his problems are real to him, but most people would say he is still in an overwhelmingly fortunate position having been born into a life of luxury and financial security. Perhaps he might benefit from a little bit more self awareness of how his life isn't actually so bad. He is hardly choosing between heating and eating.
I guess it shows what happens when families live in denial for so long it becomes a poison that causes a slow, miserable death of the relationship. Just in this case we all get to suffer it to. I mean does anyone actually still think he's related to King Charles?
Book is out today. This is the closest shop to Windsor Castle that you can buy it. Half price too! Photo from my dog walk last night. Henry was uninterested.
Some people are just county.
I assumed you were trying to avoid the swear filter until...
I know how many cars I’ve owned, I’m not keeping track or aiming for the high score table, it’s just a thing my brain does.
The remarkable thing about Harry is is total lack of awareness of real life issues. He sits in his mansion, being paid millions of pounds to talk about family fall outs and press being intrusive. Sure, his problems are real to him, but most people would say he is still in an overwhelmingly fortunate position having been born into a life of luxury and financial security. Perhaps he might benefit from a little bit more self awareness of how his life isn’t actually so bad. He is hardly choosing between heating and eating.
You think he is totally unaware of his incredible privilege? You think he'd doing this because he believes he's the victim and need a bit of extra cash?
I'd suggest you've possibly got that wrong. I think there is a counter position where he's realised just how ridiculous the whole monarchy situation is (possibly with the help of his millionaire celebrity wife who also has an incredible life of privilege) and thinks the royal world needs a rude awakening to its ridiculousness. I don't despair at Harry for telling his version of events. I do despair that so much of the UK populace has decided he's the bad guy in this and defaulted to protecting the establishment; once again demonstrating that the citizens/subjects of the UK get led in most of their thinking by the media and rarely pause to reflect on their own lives and the society we live in.
You think he is totally unaware of his incredible privilege?
Well, we have a PM who thinks homeless people might be in banking, so it potentially a thing.
You think he’d doing this because he believes he’s the victim and need a bit of extra cash?
I think exactly that.
I don't hate him for it though, he's earning cash and fair play to him for doing so. As I said in my post, I don't think he is the biggest problem in the royal family.
TBH, you can have mental health issues and crises sitting in your mansion, and while he is undoubtedly privileged, he is not insulated from those problems, in fact his upbringing probably makes them more likely.
It's not surprising entirely, Charles is emotionally screwed-up, and has managed to help pass it on down a generation.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Edukator
Free Member
Amid all the journalistic bollocks surrounding Harry I’ve just read a piece by a republican army veteran in the Guardian that replys to some of the bollocks quite well:OK, so i can tell thee it's very easy to have that view when you're raining death down from 1km away, but when you have to go and walk/drive over the remains of what you've done/ had done at you, the picture and memories are no longer of the"they'd/them'd" especially when the people on the reciving end are not always combatants -that shit haunts you no matter what training.
I do despair that so much of the UK populace has decided he’s the bad guy in this and defaulted to protecting the establishment; once again demonstrating that the citizens/subjects of the UK get led in most of their thinking by the media and rarely pause to reflect on their own lives and the society we live in.
I think he's the bad guy* in this and I'm a newspaper-hating grown-up and can come to my own conclusions.
* I actually think he's a sad guy with definite issues who has been taken advantage of by those around him - going to live in the US has not helped.
This piece on the BBC makes it sound like a pretty good read actually.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64223264
Also - there doesn't have to be a "bad guy", you don't have to take sides, it's not that simple.
The remarkable thing about Harry is is total lack of awareness of real life issues. He sits in his mansion, being paid millions of pounds to talk about family fall outs and press being intrusive. Sure, his problems are real to him, but most people would say he is still in an overwhelmingly fortunate position having been born into a life of luxury and financial security. Perhaps he might benefit from a little bit more self awareness of how his life isn’t actually so bad. He is hardly choosing between heating and eating.
Looking at it he other way the middle of the bow tie is the media. As this thread shows, enough people do care just enough to click on a few links, read a few tweets, which generates revenue, which is where those millions come from, they don't exist in a vacuum.
We have an NHS on the brink of collapse, endemic corruption, a government that is fascist in all but name and the press is getting its collective knickers in a twist over a privileged family's spat.
Bread and circuses springs to mind!
for all the froth and rage in the daily fail, if the spare was a good little boy Viscount Rothermere would be paying him to act up, it must be verging on 75% of their website content! Never seen so much click bait :/
OK, so i can tell thee it’s very easy to have that view when you’re raining death down from 1km away, but when you have to go and walk/drive over the remains of what you’ve done/ had done at you, the picture and memories are no longer of the”they’d/them’d” especially when the people on the reciving end are not always combatants -that shit haunts you no matter what training.
Plenty of AH pilots have struggled with PTSD as a result of their actions in Afghanistan. Watching in HD as you ragdoll enemy fighters into the air after a hellfire strike or 30mm volley isn't something you probably forget anytime soon.
Not one capbadge or role has a monopoly on what war is or how it affects them, and if you've served then you should have a degree of understanding for the way that those experiences vary from bod to bod.
He is now claiming to be on the sea marshes near Sandringham and calling in Tornados from RAF Marham practising targetting Charles, all whilst staying incognito in a '£100 per night cheap hotel.
Deluded.
Sh1t. Just got sucked in......
I have not really been following this as I consider the whole lot of them parasites but:
PTSD is ruddy awful. I had PTSD type symptoms myself and flashbacks and nightmares are so vivid and nasty I have also looked after WW2 veterans with untreated PTSD. They were really damaged people. Watching 89 yr old men crying at the DDay anniversary was humbling
Harry has also come from a dysfunctional family of emotional cripples. Really damaging as well. His treatment since marrying will also have contributed. what role models did he have? A father incapable of showing affection and a mother who used emotional manipulation to get what she wanted. Has he ever known a normal human?
This is a badly psychologically damaged individual who is thrashing around in reaction
I did catch a glimpse of one interview in the paper and in it he clearly acknowledged his privilege
He is now claiming to be on the sea marshes near Sandringham and calling in Tornados
Rumour has it that he shot 2 Hen Harriers at Wolverton!
The bloke needs help.
He is suffering from the death of his mother and is finding way to release.
Well, Spare had set a new record for the fastest selling non fiction book in the UK.
That'll p**s off the Daily Mail anyway.😁
Well, Spare had set a new record for the fastest selling non fiction book in the UK.
That’ll p**s off the Daily Mail anyway.😁
Conversely 'Happy Valley' had higher viewing figures than his ITV interview.