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Seems like this place is much less interested in Harry than the mainstream media. Got to say I'm quite enjoying it. I guess this is what happens when someone at the top of a nationwide cult tries to escape. How long before he has an 'accident' I wonder?
With the "25 taliban" comment no accident will be required I fear.
Probably reflects the majority who don't seem as obsessed about it as the media but then he has had a go at the media and won so he is not going to be getting any more popular with them.
Be interested in book sales as he has done great marketing for the book.
I had the same thought about the stw disinterest this morning. I'm not that interested myself, just think it's so sad that a family is having it's personal issues aired in the public. I can't see how it is good for anybody and least of all Harry, Meghan and their kids.
How long before he has an ‘accident’ I wonder?
He did have a 'tumble' into a dog bowl! 🙂
As for what he's said so far - it's just normal he said, she said family arguing.
For someone who wants to live more anonymously he's doing a cracking job.....
I dont think the press coverage is required, IMO they killed his mother, he's served his country in the army on the front line and unless there is a real tragedy wont be king. Let him live his life.
just think it’s so sad that a family is having it’s personal issues aired in the public.
It's not really a family though is it? Families don't have a whole load of advisors and hangers on spreading shite in the papers against other members do they? Harry's only crime is that he wants to escape the cult he was born into. Good luck to him.
And that 25 taliban issue. As a bed-wetting anti-war liberal it's a good thing IMO. Reminds everyone that armies and air forces are designed for killing people, and they do exactly that.
I dont think the press coverage is required, IMO they killed his mother, he’s served his country in the army on the front line and unless there is a real tragedy wont be king. Let him live his life.
This. Can't believe how hard the right-wing grifters are going after him.
There was a good Guardian article yesterday. About how a lot of sibling rivalry/infighting etc is (on some level) about favouritism, parental love, and all that. Sometimes there's something in it; often, there's nothing really there, it's just the perception of some young people.
But with Harry and William it's real, and explicit, and the whole world knows it: William is the important one. The whole monarchy, the entire British constitution, is set up to protect him and groom him for his impending kinghood. Harry was just plan B in case William didn't have kids. And now he's got kids, so Harry is basically pointless.
That's got to be pretty hard to come to terms with!
Harry’s only crime is that he wants to escape the cult he was born into. Good luck to him.
He could have done that nice and quietly.
I've not spoken to my brother in 12 years. I don't constantly go round his house to remind him why we've not spoken or that he's a ****!
I cant believe he admitted to being chinned by an raf officer 🤣
I've little interest in it but it seems unavoidable
What does absolutely baffle me is the state of near apoplexy that him and his other half drive the usual right wing commentators into
I had the same thought about the stw disinterest this morning. I’m not that interested myself, just think it’s so sad that a family is having it’s personal issues aired in the public. I can’t see how it is good for anybody and least of all Harry, Meghan and their kids.
My view too, also fair point that selling your story is not stepping out of the limelight.
I genuinely never read anything about the royal family at all as I just find it totally boring and its a mystery to me why they still exist but I don't really care either way. Seeing a headline about Harry taking coke and fighting his brother though did sort of breach the threshold and I thought yeah I'm gonna spend 5mins reading that. Though neither of those things in and of themselves are in any way interesting or unusual.
As someone who would like to see a republic I should be enjoying it. But conversely I think the royalist public will be doubling down and backing them up and curiously forgiving the obvious flaws much more readily.
It's still bizarre behaviour - it feels like self destruction of the highest order. Not sure how the long term game works out positively for him playing these moves.
I think the whole thing is bizarre - He made a massive point about having to leave the country for the sake of his, and his wife's mental health, yet since then he's been whoring himself out to any media outlet who'd listen.
I think he'll come to regret some of these revelations down the line - and confessing to killing 25 Taliban fighters has just painted a huge target on his back and made him global target No1 for Islamic nut-jobs.
One way or another, there won't be a happy ending to this saga..
He has taken an interesting career path that seems to be handsomely rewarded. He also seems to be somewhat unstable. Loss of a parent at a young age, particularly in his circumstances, will have been devastating (you don't really get over it IMHO). And yes I think his behaviour looks self-destructive.
My view too, also fair point that selling your story is not stepping out of the limelight.
^^This
He could have quietly left via the backdoor and just gotten on with his life.
Rather than creating all of this attention.
For someone who wanted a quieter life, less press intrusion and to reconcile with his father and brother, I don’t think Netflix, tv interviews, press leaks and a book is the way to go about it! 🤔
He's just a completely screwed up individual from a completely dysfunctional family, living a fairly normal dysfunctional life. Unfortunately as he happens to be a royal, it's very hard to avoid hearing about it....
When the first thing item on BBC Six Music news, which normally does not include tabloid items, is Harry and Meghan, I fear it is being used to deflect the news away from the govt.
Another example of how BBC news is becoming the pawn of the government.
Apparantly ( I only saw the headline) he has been conversing with his mum via some sort of "woman with powers"
I do feel sorry for the whole lot as individuals. Such clearly damaged people many of them are
I bet the royal family are just glad that Harry has taken "uncle Andrew" out of the press...
With a bit of luck they'll self destruct and the general public's bizarre adoration for them might fall and we can get rid of the lot of them....
I bet the royal family are just glad that Harry has taken “uncle Andrew” out of the press…
The Royal paedo....
"He’s just a completely screwed up individual from a completely dysfunctional family, living a fairly normal dysfunctional life. Unfortunately as he happens to be a royal, it’s very hard to avoid hearing about it…."
Exactly - its basically a rich Shameless
Unfortunately, I agree with @freeagent. Whilst I couldn't give a stuff about the royals, I don't wish them harm and I think with the taliban comment he has really burnt his bridges almost everywhere. Can't see a good outcome here.
When the first thing item on BBC Six Music news, which normally does not include tabloid items, is Harry and Meghan, I fear it is being used to deflect the news away from the govt.
Another example of how BBC news is becoming the pawn of the government.
Or reflects the dumbing down of "news" to the lowest common denominator.
Which may also suit the government, so I'm not sure I'm disagreeing with you.
Whilst I couldn’t give a stuff about the royals
I genuinely couldn't give a monkeys about any of them, but it is almost impossible not to stand and stare as they tear themselves apart....
If we sacked them all and reclaimed the money it would easily pay for improvements to Hospitals, Trains, Royal Mail etc.....
What I don't get is that, first with the Royal paedo and then with Harry, these people have highly paid and supposedly highly skilled advisors and PR people on their payroll.
So how do they end up catastrophically misjudging situations to such a huge degree
Surely there are loads of issues with both of them where anyone sentient would say to them 'whatever you do, don't do that!'
So how do they end up catastrophically misjudging situations to such a huge degree
They're Royals, hence brought up to believe they are know better than everyone...
No one ever stop and laughs in their face and goes 'you know what Andrew, you're full of shit'....
Thanks to modern media everyone can see them for what they really are, which is normal messed up people living normal messed up lives.
He's following in his mother's footsteps. The saint like Diana became a very savvy media player as her advisors kicked in. What was telling was the Private Eye edition after her death.
They printed all the early edition words from the mainstream Sundays that were outraged by her behaviour running off with a playboy but they changed their tune totally by the following printing.
If she hadn't died she may have ended up being judged/remembered considerably more harshly. Her death wiped the slate clean.
I dunno, if you take a step back and look at it objectively, he did stay quiet, outside of Charity work and Invictus you rarely heard/saw what they thought beyond the expected speaches at charity events.
Then a load of "royal correspondents" came out swinging for them, and they wouldn't have done that if it had risked their previous royal correspondent gravy train Buckingham Palace press passes.
The fact that once he's outside the system he's done a couple of interviews and ghost produce/written a doc and book essentially giving his side of all those stories isn't really surprising.
The fact he's made over a hundred million from all this circus kinda dents any future charity work he does unless he's dipping his hand in his own pockets. But that's a separate issue.
I'd be looking for another job, ASAP, if I was one of his security team. I'm sure friends of :"the chess pieces he removed from the board" are pretty skilled with IEDs etc.
Lol at firestarter.
If you weren't already pretty screwed up by losing your mum at 12, having to walk behind her coffin for a television audience of billions, and doing two full tours in Afghanistan where you watched friends and foes being ripped apart, then watching powerlessly as the biggest section of the UK media cast vile slurs at you and your wife for years on end, often at the behest of your own supposed family and their hangers-on, ought to finish the job.
This book sounds like a massive lashing out exercise from start to finish. He's just shoving everything out there like lancing a boil. Ill-advised, probably, and won't work, but can't see it as being unprovoked.
Listing the number of people that he machine gunned from his helicopter does seem like a risky strategy that I hope doesn't bring retribution down on him and his family.
But other than that I do wish that the whole sorry lot of them would piss off, and when they have got to where they have pissed off to piss of a little bit more.
Can't be doing with Kate especially. I bet she's a right cow.
Can’t be doing with Kate especially. I bet she’s a right cow.
I suspect she's just a normal everyday screwed up person like everyone else...
https://twitter.com/garius/status/1610935428298805248?s=20&t=JxecLPxaUh_fQUwIuDsOuA
can't wait for season 2.
It's time the whole Royal Family thing was put out to pasture.
If they were beagles, there's no way what is being done would get past the ethics committee. Just stop it already.
The Express and DM would be up in arms as it is a handy source of clickbait revenue for them, but for the rest of us it would be a huge relief.
Conversely though, I'm not sure that 'I killed 25' is worse than 'I killed some Afghans, didn't count'. Was he keeping score or just actually staying conscious of how many lives he ended? He an Apache Gunner, and before that he called in airstrikes on enemy positions, so it's inevitable he killed people, and he has been quoted publicly for years saying this.
The 'taking pieces off a chessboard' thing seems more like a comment on how his training removed human feelings from his job.
The only thing I’ve taken any notice of is that allegedly this rift with his brother started when he found out he was boffing the next door neighbour
I think he should do a single, bit of an eminem vibe to it.
I wonder what his real dad thinks of it all.
I think the whole thing is bizarre – He made a massive point about having to leave the country for the sake of his, and his wife’s mental health, yet since then he’s been whoring himself out to any media outlet who’d listen.
A lot of people rightly saying this.
H&M have the opportunity to tell their side of the story for a ton of money right now, and hopefully they'll be salting most of it away for the future. Their value to the media is entirely based on stuff that happened in the past, so once they've shared that, they won't have this kind of earning potential again.
Can’t be doing with Kate especially. I bet she’s a right cow.
She's already been taken down a peg or two last year.
Afghanistan thing is old news rehashed for a new audience...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/21/prince-harry-afghanistan
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/22/afghanistan-taliban-response-prince-harry
Oh and enough of the ‘real Dad’ s*it. He’s the spit of Charles
The only thing I’ve taken any notice of is that allegedly this rift with his brother started when he found out he was boffing the next door neighbour
Is this in the book? How will the Express twist this so that it was Megan's fault?
She’s already been taken down a peg or two last year.
Naughty!
Hes a hypocritic.
Doesn't want the spotlight on him and magan. Fine, take the 20mill or whatever your worth, amd go away. Dont then whore yourself out anyone who will give ypu column inches or airtime bleating on about how unfair it is.
When you are one of the chosen who really does not have to
Bin em off. Or just reduce the royal stipend by 10% per annum. Far too much money for 1 extended family to get, for being coercive, manipulative, historical bullies with loads of land they basically nicked by killing the previous owners.
just think it’s so sad that a family is having it’s personal issues aired in the public
There has never been a point in time that any of the royal families of the UK all the way back to William the Bastard have not aired their dirty laundry in public. This stiff upper lip stuff was mostly driven by George VI's reaction to Edward VII's abdication. The most recent Royal Families (Hanovers and Saxe-Coburgs-Gotha) were otherwise famously incontinently indiscreet.
https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1610909420627566594
@mrjamesob
"The only thing we need to understand about Harry & Meghan is that if they don’t tell their story themselves, it will be told instead by ‘journalists’ whose livelihoods depend on denigrating them."
I wonder how they ended up where they are.
Maybe if your first port of call is recommendations from your celebrity friends for therapists, healers etc., all of whom have a vested interest in making you 'feel' better. I guess a convenient shortcut to feeling better might be to pin the blame on your problems on those around you. I guess if that cycle continues it might become pretty self absorbing.
One of the (many) benefits of NHS GPs is that they provide some reasonably independent objective judgement for referrals.
I think unfortunately he’s just really screwed up after the death of his mum and not knowing who his real dad is ? + then always being 2nd for everything
Quote clearly his therapist is doing a really shit job
Quote clearly his therapist is doing a really shit job
Pretty sure this is after therapy!
Spot on from Xora. Get rid of all the sponging worthless royals especially those who are allowed to dodge inheritance tax FFS.
Germany seems to do rather well without them these days.
At least there's one thing to admire of the the ginger baaarstard (come on we all know he is) is that he's actually done some real fighting when in the army. That's what the army is there for. Not the other royals who ponce around with 15 medals and gold braiding for having sat on their arses in one of their ivory towers 3000 miles from any battlefield. I know which one I'D rather have defending the country.
Just to really piss off the rUK, once Scotland becomes independent we're going to make Meghan Queen of Scotland.
Just to really piss off the rUK, once Scotland becomes independent we’re going to make Meghan Queen of Scotland.
I am not sure who would get the last laugh there.
yet since then he’s been whoring himself out to any media outlet who’d listen.
Or as others have pointed out, if they don't tell "their side of the story" the silence will be filled by others who may not (probably won't) have their best interests at heart.
The only really interesting part of the whole thing for me is the [over] reaction they provoke in a certain brand of commentator/journalist, - Piers Morgan, Jeremy Clarkson etc etc. it's genuinely fascinating to me, and I really don't understand it at all.
Just to really piss off the rUK, once Scotland becomes independent we’re going to make Meghan Queen of Scotland.
You think she'd take that - too bloody wet and cold! 🙂
I'm a republican but at least Harry put his arse on the line "for the country."
If he and Meghan make a good life for themselves over there whilst exposing the absurdity of monarchy in the 21st century, again, good luck to them.
Other than that, I've no interest to be honest.
Some military ****er on sky news has just compared a soldier keeping a score of how many people they've killed to a woman keeping score of how many men she's slept with. 😳
the [over] reaction they provoke in a certain brand of commentator/journalist, – Piers Morgan, Jeremy Clarkson etc etc. it’s genuinely fascinating to me, and I really don’t understand it at all.
Meg spurned poor Piers' advances some years ago.
No mystery there.
With the lifestyles they have they need a lot of money to support them.
The only way to get money is by selling information of their lives and Harry has plenty of that.
The wife has nothing of an interest to the public to sell and the only way for her to be interesting is to add fuel to fire to others mental health, including Harry.
Harry is scarred by the death of his mum and also perhaps some PTSD from war in Afghanistan, where perhaps the 25 "Taliban" Killed might just include some innocent people. The latter, if they are innocent, might come back to haunt him for the rest of his life.
Or as others have pointed out, if they don’t tell “their side of the story” the silence will be filled by others who may not (probably won’t) have their best interests at heart.
Sometimes keeping your mouth shut is the best way counter the drivel in the press, his constant interviews and quotes are just keeping the news cycle going and making it headline news rather than gossip column garbage it really is. I bet if he'd have kept quiet most of us on here would have a clue what was alleged to be going on.
He's milking it for every penny and he's got a massive chip on his shoulder. He's not coming out of this well in my opinion. He's rich, well connected and whiney. I have no sympathy. I'm not convinced half the stuff he's coming out with isn't anything more than sour grapes anyway. He might be the second son but he's still been born into way more privilege and wealth than 99.999% of the rest of us. Boo Hoo and shut up are my parting thoughts 🙂
I understand the Royals are generally looked down upon by the upper echelons of toff due to their poor breeding, grotesque media profile, and actually having to do some work (for us). They are a parody of the upper class.
I am not sure cutting the head off the best would solve much.
Sometimes keeping your mouth shut is the best way counter the drivel in the press, his constant interviews and quotes are just keeping the news cycle going and making it headline news rather than gossip column garbage it really is. I bet if he’d have kept quiet most of us on here would have a clue what was alleged to be going on.
He’s milking it for every penny and he’s got a massive chip on his shoulder. He’s not coming out of this well in my opinion. He’s rich, well connected and whiney. I have no sympathy. I’m not convinced half the stuff he’s coming out with isn’t anything more than sour grapes anyway. He might be the second son but he’s still been born into way more privilege and wealth than 99.999% of the rest of us. Boo Hoo and shut up are my parting thoughts 🙂
The only thing I'd add is the Windsors are a deeply disf****ional family & so I have a degree of sympathy but it's measured in tiny amounts. If I was asked I'd say bin the lot of them..
Some military **** on sky news has just compared a soldier keeping a score of how many people they’ve killed to a woman keeping score of how many men she’s slept with. 😳
Wasn't that Col Richard Kemp cretin was it?
Usually wheel that fuxking melt out to comme the on things he knows **** all about because he did a stint on Herrick.
Chap is a pillock. He wants recocilliation. PMSL Yeah after all you have said mate!
Tough if he hasn't gotten over his mum. Same as anyone else. Man up mate and quit whinging. Unhinged if you ask me.
Wasn’t that Col Richard Kemp cretin was it?
Dunno but it's quite eye opening seeing all these military people on the news criticising Harry for daring to talk about killing people as part of his job as a soldier. It's almost as if they didn't know that's what soldiers do. I'm guessing not many of them saw much action themselves, let alone had to fire their guns at anyone.
One of them was even criticising Harry for depersonalising them by calling them 'pieces on a chess board' and went to great lengths to show sympathy to the people he killed. It's like they're siding with the Talliban against Harry. Bonkers!
I believe he’s admitted to using cocaine when he was 17 yr old.
I may be wrong but doesn’t the USA exclude Foreign Nationals who either have a conviction for drug use or admit to previously having used drugs?
Is it a case of one rule for Harry, a different rule for everyone else?????
TBH who really cares. Other that is the Daily Mail readership, who have been clamouring for royal gossip for decades and this is just filling that niche with clickbait articles.
Far as I can see anyone following this has been brainwashed into it by the likes of the DM, which is a pretty sad state of affairs that they are so easily directed by the tabloids as to what to think.
The DM was mostly responsible, as were their target audience, the general public for the death of his mother, and i can quite acknowledge that his wife and kids he would rather face the press on his own terms, rather than have them camped out and following the family with long lenses wherever they go.
Nice to have a holiday, but not so nice to know theres a bunch of photographers constantly invading their privacy., but its not just holidays, its where ever they or any of his family go. All very very intrusive.
But again to be honest ive no idea why the tabloids and public readership are so hung up on him releasing a book about what goes on inside the royal family as its what the tabloids have been doing for years at the behest of their readership.
Fair play to him and thanks to the tabloids his book(s) should do extremely well thanks to all the publicity they've given it. It will no doubt rise to the top of any chart along with many other publications claiming to have the inside knowledge of the royal family and their relationships.
Man up mate and quit whinging. Unhinged if you ask me.
"Man up" is not a very useful thing to say to someone who is obviously traumatised and deeply disfunctional ( or unhinged)
Fair play to him and thanks to the tabloids his book(s) should do extremely well thanks to all the publicity they’ve given it.
Will it? Not sure who would buy it. Your royalist flag waving granny - hell no! Your republican who sees the lot of them getting a french style short back and sides as a damn good idea - nope. Who bothers to buy a book about the royal family which paints the royal family in a bad light - ****ed if I know.
Pretty much the reflection of the rest of his life - royalists will loath him, he's at war with the press and it would take a cold day in hell for the rest of family to forgive him and have him back. Republicans will still loath him. He's not particularly bright, too devicive for most charities and good causes. He's pretty much good for nothing and no one at this point.
Will it? Not sure who would buy it.
Look at the recent netflix documentary. DM was running stories how nobody would want to watch it but it sat in the top spot of their 'popular chart for a few weeks.
Poor old DM was forced to ignore the UK chart and claim how it wasnt doing so well on the US chart, which is meaningless given their readership is mostly UK.
Will it? Not sure who would buy it. Your royalist flag waving granny – hell no! Your republican who sees the lot of them getting a french style short back and sides as a damn good idea – nope. Who bothers to buy a book about the royal family which paints the royal family in a bad light – **** if I know.
See the kind of folk that read Take A Break car crash "human interest" mags? Yeah, those people.
Should we move onto something interesting ?
as he keeps the daily fail et al in an apoplectic fit of rage he's ok with me.
BillOddie
Full Member“The only thing we need to understand about Harry & Meghan is that if they don’t tell their story themselves, it will be told instead by ‘journalists’ whose livelihoods depend on denigrating them.”
This, completely. When he was being quiet, they weren't.
I really don't get the wailing over "25 taliban". It's like people don't want to admit that our wars kill people. But a bunch of the same people celebrate the Ghost of Kiev, or Simo Hayha, or whoever. That was the job. He was cheered when he joined up and the tabloids absolutely fapped over him being deployed in Afghanistan. Is it weird to keep count? I know my mate kept count, because he wanted to know the difference he was making and he wanted to know if it was worth it when his mates got shot and it helped him when he eventually got invalided out of Helmand annnnnd he wants to know it's not more.
Some people are just county. I know how many cars I've owned, I'm not keeping track or aiming for the high score table, it's just a thing my brain does.
I really don’t get the wailing over “25 taliban”.
Who would have ever thought the British tabloids would be having a go at a former British soldier for killing the Taliban?