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If you look at the first clip Eugenie is very clearly patting him on the back to give him emotional support. It would appear to me that both are trying to support each other, as you would quite reasonably expect under the circumstances.
Frankly, I think he’s a reprehensible human being, but there’s nothing, absolutely nothing there to cause the frothing outrage that some are posting. He had his arm around her shoulder, then, as he bent down, he did the natural thing, run his hand down her back to aid his balance, he’s pulling his hand away as it gets to her waist, but it’s funny how the video cuts short at that point…
Under those circumstances, I’d have HAD to do the same, otherwise I’d probably fall flat on my face! To swing his arm away as he bends down just wouldn’t be a natural movement and would naturally unbalance anyone trying it.
What?! He pauses for a brief moment and squeezes! That’s not stopping yourself from toppling over!
I think it's quite low to be insinuating that somebody is touching up their daughter at a family funeral. Even for the internet, that's a crass, moronic move.
Don’t need to insinuate it when it’s clear for everyone to see on the clip
Don’t need to insinuate it when it’s clear for everyone to see on the clip
If that is a "clear" case of sexual gratification to you then it suggests a strange and unusual attitude towards sex, imo.
Does going to funerals generally present a problem to you? There are often cases of deeply upset people touching each other very closely, often they are related to each other.
No they don’t cause an issue for me as I don’t use them to squeeze a relatives backside, that may be acceptable to you but not to me
Don’t need to insinuate it when it’s clear for everyone to see on the clip
You’ve reported this clear case of sexual assault to the police, then? Or are they in on it as well?
that may be acceptable to you
You think that I am condoning an act of sexual assault?
Don’t need to insinuate it when it’s clear for everyone to see on the clip
I've rewatched the clip and can't see it, in fact the clip cuts off before he even gets to her backside. I suggest those of you seeing something wrong here need to go and a have a little reflection on your view of the world.
The second clip doesn't cut off
https://twitter.com/RosaCatherineK/status/1568858690475724800?t=a4D9kMFiATwIkQLjXDWPwA&s=19
Jesus, some of you need help..
That’s his rehabilitation sorted among dog lovers.
until he’s caught bumming them.
This is the thread that just keeps giving. Classic.
He's got the dogs cos he's the only one who doesn't go out much.
Perfect dog owning candidate
What?! He pauses for a brief moment and squeezes! That’s not stopping yourself from toppling over!
I think there's an appropriate French phrase - "honi soit qui mal y pense".
Hopefully that’s on his coat of arms
That's an English expression, DrJ, from Norman times. I've never heard it on this side of the channel. However the modern day translation "honte à celui qui y voit du mal" is fitting IMO.
he’s made it into my local news channel by adopting his mother’s Corgis!
A complete misunderstanding after someone said the dogs need to go to the groomers.
Yeah shame on us 🙄
So those who can’t see anything wrong please explain the differences between these two pictures. I’ll make it easier for you, first picture his hand is flat and on the lower back. Second picture is a few moments later where his hand moves over her backside and fingers bend as to grab something. Yeah perfectly acceptable.
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I’ll no doubt have the usual bores, trying to interpret the meaning of me posting these pictures 🙄 (just imagine me lay here knocking one off over them, and you 😘)
trying to interpret the meaning of me posting these pictures 🙄
I'm trying to see how you interpret that as a sexual assault.
You claim "He pauses for a brief moment and squeezes!" how brief was this brief moment - three quarters of a second? Personally I don't see him pausing at all but if he does it is so brief that I can't see how it can be interpreted as some sort of sexual experience for his gratification.
I'm really struggling to see anything remotely sexual about the whole thing, let alone that it is obvious.
But perhaps I am just too innocent and naive.
I’m really struggling to see anything remotely sexual about the whole thing, let alone that it is obvious.
But perhaps I am just too innocent and naive.
I'm with you fella....
Are we also confident it actually is his daughter?
Whether it is a grope or not (I happen to think “not”), I think it’s pretty insensitive to the woman in question (Eugenie I think?) to have this being debated all over social media (Or is it just on STW?)
Think folk are getting desperate to have a go at some of the royals, doubt Andrew did anything wrong here, just looks bad, same with Meghan, she can't really move without being analysed, you can see they're holding fire on Charles and Camilla just now, but that'll be the next target, once sufficient time has passed.
It's just a circus this whole thing, predominantly made up by the press, and those horrific 'royal correspondents', honestly they are more up their own arses than the actual royals!
Or is it just on STW?
Judging by the Twitter links, not.
A complete misunderstanding after someone said the dogs need to go to the groomers.
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Judging by the Twitter links, not.
Ah right, I see. Other than Irish Twitter (which has been great fun the last few days) and NFL, I’d kinda been avoiding it a bit. 😀
Think folk are getting desperate to have a go at some of the royals, doubt Andrew did anything wrong here, just looks bad
Surely how you behave with a close family member can be different from how you should behave with anyone else? I can easily imagine touching my daughter the way he touched his. Doesn't make me a perv, I hope?
I think the guy is a creepy bastard, but not seeing anything untoward in that clip. Just looks like an old guy using his daughter as a balance aid. Shit, this feels like I’m defending him.
I feel sorry for the Corgis
Due to her death you’ll no longer receive a letter from the queen when you turn 100.
Instead you’ll receive a text from prince Andrew when you turn 14.
Oof! Chapeau, sir.
A complete misunderstanding after someone said the dogs need to go to the groomers.
Not okay…
https://twitter.com/peston/status/1569787727687651335?s=21
https://twitter.com/peston/status/1569787732528087040?s=21
Will he be standing in for any state visits to the USA?
If it’s the 4 next in line, after Camilla, wouldn’t it be William first, then Harry, then Andrew and Eugenie?
Maybe Anne doesn’t fancy it?
Doesnt fancy it? What was that we've been hearing about duty etc etc etc
If it’s the 4 next in line, after Camilla, wouldn’t it be William first, then Harry
Camilla isn't in line, and I'm not sure Harry is these days since he removed himself from duties. I think - though believe me I am no expert on royalty - it would go:
King charles (of course)
William
Harry
Anne
Andrew
Beatrice
Eugenie
after that it would be Edward I guess.
https://www.royal.uk/succession
The line of Succession
SOVEREIGN
1. The Prince of Wales
2. Prince George of Wales
3. Princess Charlotte of Wales
4. Prince Louis of Wales
5. The Duke of Sussex
6. Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor
7. Miss Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor
8. The Duke of York
9. Princess Beatrice, Mrs. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi
10. Miss Sienna Mapelli Mozzi
11. Princess Eugenie, Mrs. Jack Brooksbank
12. Master August Brooksbank
13. The Earl of Wessex
14. Viscount Severn
15. The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor
16. The Princess Royal
17. Mr. Peter Phillips
18. Miss Savannah Phillips
19. Miss Isla Phillips
20. Mrs. Michael Tindall
21. Miss Mia Tindall
22. Miss Lena Tindall
23. Master Lucas Tindall
You'll have to do a bit of a google to work out who they are though (Mrs Michael Tindall - aka Zara Phillips)
Willian has kids. They’d be after him not Andrew.
I believe you.
This isn’t about succession, it’s about what happens when Charles is alive, but incapacitated. Hence camilla, and having to be at least 21
This isn’t about succession, it’s about what happens when Charles is alive, but incapacitated.
Does it really matter though......worst case - someone else cuts a ribbon on a new library. You could use the remaining chuckle brother.
No, but the tweet is trying to lead people to think that if Charles goes on holiday, Andrew will take over. The reason it isn’t Anne it seems is, rightly or wrongly, that she’s well down the order of succession.
What if rather than a library it is to cut the ribbon on a new girls school, would anyone really want to send the prince of nonce.
He was relieved of his duties for a reason, but unfortunately that reason wasn't for what he had done, but to protect the "familly" now because they still don't understand they are trying to rehabilitate him already.
It’s not about succession. The Queen Mum signed/acted on behalf of the Queen at times (with one other) when she was abroad.
This is about giving Andrew a role in the affairs of the new King, and therefore the country. He should be left out entirely.
This is about giving Andrew a role in the affairs of the new King, and therefore the country. He should be left out entirely.
He was meant to be but Queenie just stuck her fingers up to the country when she walked into her husbands funeral with him. He will all over the media for the next few days as well.
Sweaty nonce should just be told to **** off.
This is about giving Andrew a role in the affairs of the new King, and therefore the country. He should be left out entirely.
Definitely my view. And if Harry has chosen to leave the Firm, he's out the list as well.
is this actually confirmed, or is someone on twitter trying to whip up a frenzy?
someone on twitter
ITV's political editor.
but is it confirmed? and would andrew have been in this position under QE2?
don’t misunderstand me, i’m not arguing in his favour.
and would andrew have been in this position under QE2?
Yes, he was.
All that’s happened is Eugenie has got in, on account of Charles leaving the group of 4 of next in lines
thanks. it will be interesting to see if this changes now that it’s more widely known.
It'll be
Charles
William
Williams son.
I've watched game of thrones, dontcha know?
I’ve watched game of thrones, dontcha know?
Please tell me the Windsor subplot doesn't involve any nudity! 🙈
Please tell me the Windsor subplot doesn’t involve any nudity! 🙈
Unfortunately I think Andrews does
This is fuss about not much tbh. I totally agree Andrew shouldn't be in that list. (and while we're at it, should be stripped of that bullshit vice-admiralship that he still retains, which has caused the obnoxious "he can wear uniform and harry can't" thing.
But, this isn't succession, it's the deferrment of powers/duties so the odds of it ever going past the first, which I think is Camilla, to the second which despite Peston's tweet is probably William, are pretty damn small.
The overall point that Andrew's still in the system is more important and I suppose it is a part of that. He made such a big deal of surrendering all royal duties, not using the HRH, giving up his military posts but here we are less than a year on... Without a doubt there are people that think this is a good time to rehabilitate him.
Andrew could step in, no sweat.
He made such a big deal of surrendering all royal duties, not using the HRH, giving up his military posts but here we are less than a year on… Without a doubt there are people that think this is a good time to rehabilitate him.
Depressing to see him in full regalia in front of the world. He clearly hasn’t taken a step back, just been on holiday for it all to “calm down”. He’s back.
Now that the fuss about the grumpy ginger one has died down, Ghislaine brings the nonce back into the headlines.
Supposedly the (in?)famous photo of the Royal formerly known as Duke posing with the girl he (imo) went on to rape.
Well, if she says it's a fake then I'm assuming it is not.
It seems a bit unlikey the photo was faked all things considered; still, I suppose it has served it's purpose in terms of leveraging the Royals... now, the blackmailers whose operation Epstein and Maxwell were running would do better to diffuse the situation, casting doubt on the testimonies of several victims and helping get the Royals back on side.
First sniff of 'possible conspiracy' and, like the genie of the lamp, here's jhj!
I share the view that the photo is unlikely to have been faked.
As for any players behind the scenes, who knows but that wouldn't be surprising.
Well to be fair, I was shouting about the Epstein thing way back when everyone was defending the honour of the Duke of York and suggesting he should be left alone as the whole thing as an overblown conspiracy...
What surprised me about this was the mention of Andrew considering weasling out of his deal. I wonder if Charles has said to Andrew that he is not paying now his mum has gone?
So, based on an opinion of a convicted sex trafficker not trained in the arts of deep faking (unless she has taken an OU course whilst inside) the picture is fake?
I'm a little sceptical.
Back to Andrew, his arrogance will be his undoing. Again. I'm totally ok with that.
I read today that disgraced TV presenter jeremy kyle is going to interview her/it.
I'm not entirley sure what to make of that.
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I read today that disgraced TV presenter jeremy kyle is going to interview her/it.I’m not entirley sure what to make of that.
Jeez, even by US standards of incarceration that's a harsh punishment.
I make of it that 2 unbearable c@#£s will be at the same place at the same time talking s1ht and lies and both with have less than zero shame.
Where's Guy Fawkes to blow the place up when you need him ?
What surprised me about this was the mention of Andrew considering weasling out of his deal. I wonder if Charles has said to Andrew that he is not paying now his mum has gone?
Either the settlement has to be funded, or litigation to overturn it has to be. And he is unlikely to want to fund such an umpromising case himself, nor is the firm. But equally they won't like the idea of letting him go bankrupt, or becoming some kind of judgment avoider. Their best bet is to pay up and leave Andrew in the wilderness. My guess would be he is trying to sponge off some rich crony to fund the case, maybe Maxwell has a slush fund somewhere.
If the war in Ukraine is still going on, I could use my EMT emergency medical technician and paramedic skills and maybe I could go out and help there.
Wait what?
Charles Moore leaping to nonce andrews defence
https://twitter.com/pinguforest/status/1617797702648987650
the last time moore waded into legal matters it was to get Johnson to change the rules for Owen patterson & let him off his corruption suspension & that went well...
Perhaps these images were faked too? 🤷♂️
Well, if she says it’s a fake then I’m assuming it is not.
I think its irrelevant either way.
The fact he hung around with Epstein at all and especially went and stayed with him after the first case makes him completely unsuitable to be representing the country in any form.
The fact he hung around with Epstein at all and especially went and stayed with him after the first case makes him completely unsuitable to be representing the country in any form.
Say for example there was evidence the yet to be be crowned king had gone out of his way to defend a child abuser against abuse allegations, would that have any bearing on people's opinion?
The telegraph upping its bizarre campaign to clear his royal nonceness
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1619091070662443009?t=tFMbmRrukNaZkhpXd8jdqg&s=19
Well, conclusive proof that the"frolicking in a bath" incident never happened thanks to this big budget reenactment by a couple of Grislaines mates!
Wtf? I can categorically attest to the fact that mere plebs like myself have frolicked in similarly sized baths. In the past anyway.
Perhaps prince's require bigger baths to folic in?
Picture showing two people in a bath to demonstrate that two people couldn’t fit in that bath.