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"impropriety with minors" alleged. Blimey.
breaking on BBC
Off with his head !!
"You need someone who knows how to run things and if you get someone from an obscure background, with no background of establishment, they'll find it very difficult and may not be able actually to produce the goods."
Lady Butler-Sloss DBE, GBE..
Round up the lizard overlords, jivehoney's running a press briefing imminently.
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There were stories linking him to a notorious US fiddler a while back.
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Let him refute the allegations in Court.
dun dun duuuuunnnnnnn
Which ones Andrew?
The Palace wrote that press release in a panic: "under-age minors" - as opposed to the over-age minors ? What they really meant of course was "actual, under-age minors".
Which ones Andrew?
The useless chubby one.
Well, even more useless than the rest.
Unless you're an arms manufacturer.
Prince Andrew isn't a party to the law suit. It's an allegation against him but the law suit is against the Federal Prosecutors.
This is another example where alleged perpetrators are publically named before any proceedings. As Prince Andrew isn't a party to the case he cannot even file a defense/ denial.
Give it a couple of hours and the news will be airbrushed.
There's more detail now
A woman named him in documents she filed in a Florida case against financier Jeffrey Epstein, who was convicted of sex offences in 2008.She claims that between 1999 and 2002 she "was forced to have sexual relations with this prince when she was a minor" in three locations
she "was forced to have sexual relations with this prince when she was a minor" in three locations
I thought that there was only 3 locations...
Not if you're a Modern Guy - you will have had it in the ear before, apparently...
Where's jivehoney when you need him?
Oh his way, no doubt.
beginning of the end. Hopefully.
How long before his bonkers ex wife is gonna come out and say she caught him with the chambermaid?
Is that the same ex wife who Jimmy Savile acted as an intermediary with?
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Amazing all the folk that hung out with Jeffrey Epstein; few examples in order of global power:
Nat Rothschild
Bill Clinton
Peter Mandelson
He didn't start a new religion to allow him to do it though. That's progress really
She's going to catch her death in that top
"impropriety with miners"
would be a more intresting story,
She's going to catch her death in that top
Aye, lucky she's stuck a polished penny on to cover her modesty; funny how it catches the light like that
She's going to catch her death in that top
Does look like she's a bit chilly.
Is she underage then?
He looks a bit coked up on the 2nd picture as well. Living the high life. 🙂
17 according to the guardian so underage for Florida no idea re where [ geographically in the world] the offences took place
On this one I tend to agree with Jive strange friendship to keep especially after the convinction
There again, Epstein was a member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations...
Offences took place London, new York, carribean according to sky
look forward to the [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17553860 ]US extradition treaty[/url] being applied without fear or favour. Or maybe he'll move in with Assange.
There's no way that'll happen, she's also said it involves
many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders”
Im sure that an accident in a Parisian underpass could be arranged at any time
Given Prince Andrews reputation as a ladies man and for hanging round with "characters", I'm not shocked that his name has been linked to something like this.
Not had time to check the details - from posts above it's not obvious how old she was when it started and whether it was an offence in the locations it was alleged to have happened?
Innocent until proven guilty and all that, someone will be along to clarify the proper definition of a paedophile, no smoke without fire.
Has that summed up the thread so we can just stop it here?
Am I right in being told, that if the young lady in question was English it would not been with a minor?
Why would you want to stop it, if you don't want to read it stay away.
hanging round with "characters"
Interesting description for being close friends with a convicted sex offender - admitted to paying to have sex with a 14 year old girl - MMM quite a "character " 😕
She was 15 when she alleged it started and 17 with Andrew
A paedophile is sexually attracted to by pre pubescent children
No its a shit sum up not least because you appear to have little idea about what you are talking about and chose to not research the answers [ to rather simple questions tbh] before giving us your view
You can read up on it there assuming you need information to form opinions of course.
It is a bit weird how Jimmy Savile acted as a marriage counsellor for both Charles and Di and Andrew and Fergie...
[url= http://nyenquirer.uk/mi5-special-branch-prominent-paedophiles-cover-peter-jaconelli/ ]Surely there'd be vetting for 'characters' getting that close to royalty?[/url]
Given Andrew's known links to arms industry, hope it doesn't have anything to do with blackmail...
Still looking into Jeffrey Epstein; seems to be very deeply involved with the global elite...
If this gets bigger could we see the end of royalty?
He looks a bit coked up on the 2nd picture as well
She's going to catch her death in that top
What are you lot looking at ? 😯
What are you lot looking at ?
Jhj posted some pix of Andy with his arm around girls who may not have been over 18 at the time. Then there were links to the usual reputable websites about him knowing someone who one said hello to jimmy saville and went to school with someone who's dads best friend knew someone in the mossad.
Then the mods took the posts down because they're either part of the conspiracy or don't want to have a load of conspiracy theory hoohaw posted on their site.
Meanwhile an allegation has been made as part of a long running us lawsuit and it turns out that's all it takes to convict someone of paedophilia.
anagallis_arvensis - Member
If this gets bigger could we see the end of royalty?
No, fortunately.
Shame, whilst we as a society put up with being subjects I suppose we will just have to accept this sort of thing.
If they can bump off inconvenient former family members, I doubt this'll cause much of a problem
*puts tinfoil helmet on and hides under the table*
I like the French approach to royalty, personally. Let them eat heads on ****ing spikes! 😀
ah, thanks thepurist
Here is the Safe for work pic:
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Junkyard - why don't you **** off and get a sense of humour for once?
Then the mods took the posts down because they're either part of the conspiracy or don't want to have a load of conspiracy theory hoohaw posted on their site.
Or because the young lady in question had a nipple showing?
I heard this on the radio this morning.
He'd really be in trouble if he'd had sex with Underage Miners.
She has a (small) gonad showing in the NSFW version 😉
Well, if pictures are proof, there's a picture of me in existence in which I'm wearing a pink tutu, holding an inflatable sheep and standing next to a DeLorean.
Somebody call the press!
Awesome use of the edinburgh there but I dont blame you for not trying to defend the character description for a convicted sex offender and just lashing out at me instead
It was poor judgement on your part referring to a sex offender as a character and stand up comedies loss really is our gain.
I think it may be wiser if you work on your "jokes".
Somebody call the press!
Despite the fantasy you peddle, you're not [i]that[/i] big a cheese.
If his cheese is on display, big or otherwise, then I want to see that picture
#strangest
😀 @ Junky!
Andrew looks coked up off his tits in that NSFW photo
She has a (small) gonad showing in the NSFW version
Glad I didnt teach you biology!!
jy - I think you need to stop taking everything so damn literally, and leave your arrogant and superior tone at the door.
Andrew has been linked with all sorts of criminal types. I'm sorry my limited vocabulary couldn't come up with a better catch all term to describe them.
However we may feel about the guy and his actions, all we have [i] at this stage[/i] is an allegation that he did something that may not be illegal.
teamhurtmore - Member
She has a (small) gonad showing in the NSFW version
😆 Reminds me of this pic. Don't delete mods, it's an optical illusion.
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C_R, almost choked on that one!
The court case has been around for some time, I remember reading about links and allegations some while back, possibly on a USA page.
"He once counted Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Kevin Spacey and Naomi Campbell among his associates, frequently lent his private jet to powerful contacts and became famed for his extravagant parties."
"Epstein was arrested in 2005, after the stepmother of a 14-year-old girl told Florida police he had paid $200 for an erotic massage with her daughter, and later became the subject of an FBI investigation.
By the following year prosecutors said they had identified 40 young women who may have been illegally procured by Epstein. Dozens of his alleged victims are reported to have settled with Epstein out of court.
The federal inquiry was eventually dropped after Epstein negotiated a deal with prosecutors in which he agreed to plead guilty to a relatively minor state charge relating to soliciting paid sex with a minor. He served 13 months of an 18-month sentence and is now a registered sex offender.
A lawsuit against the US government brought by two of Epstein’s alleged victims, who are unhappy with the terms of the plea deal, has been ongoing for more than six years."
Both excerpts quoted from
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/02/jeffrey-epstein-rise-and-fall-of-teacher-turned-tycoon
"Many of Epstein’s contacts rapidly disappeared when he became the subject of criminal proceedings that eventually resulted in 2008 in an 18-month jail term for soliciting prostitution with an underage girl after an 11-month police investigation.
But Andrew remained unswervingly – even perplexingly – loyal.
In 2011, a friend of both men told Vanity Fair magazine that Epstein had helped shape the Prince as a more relaxed individual – but after the financier’s conviction Andrew had been advised to sever all links.
The unnamed friend said the Prince told him: “Leave me alone, Jeffrey’s my friend. Being loyal to your friends is a virtue. And I’m going to be loyal to him.
At least until December 2010, that loyalty manifested itself in meetings between the two men, including several holidays. When Epstein was released from jail, the Prince was on a guest list for a dinner at his Fifth Avenue mansion which also included Woody Allen. The financier proved a worthy and generous friend, at one point paying £15,000 to help an indebted Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York."
Planet is too populated so off with all their heads to free up some oxygen ... 😈
So if you had a good friend (not just a pub mate) that was convicted of a similar offence that had no direct impact on you what would you do? I'd like to think I would not just abandon them?
"So if you had a good friend (not just a pub mate) that was convicted of a similar offence that had no direct impact on you what would you do? I'd like to think I would not just abandon them? "
In this situation, buying off under age girls and their families - damn right I would abandon them. They would be gone faster than yesterdays rubbish. Even faster if (1) my job was representing my country (2) I had daughters of my own, so I could relate even more to how disgusting the behaviour of this convicted criminal has been.
buying off under age girls
Hmmm, not sure that's actually correct though, is it?
[Devils Advocate]The linked articles state that the legal age of consent is 18 in Florida and that she was 17_when this happened but it happened in NY, somewhere in the US Virgin Isles and London.
Now, maybe someone else can look up the law in other locations, but she would have been "legal" in London..[/Devils Advocate]
But, as I'm not a royalist, burn him anyway! 🙂
The federal age of consent in North America is between 16 and 18, and apparently 12 in Mexico:
The ages of consent in North America for sexual activity vary by jurisdiction.The age of consent in Canada is 16. All U.S. states set their limits between 16 and 18.
The age of consent in Mexico is complex. Typically, Mexican states have a "primary" age of consent (which may be as low as 12), and sexual conduct with persons below that age is always illegal. Sexual relations between adults and teenagers under 18 are left in a legal gray area: laws against corruption of minors as well as estupro laws can be applied to such acts, at the discretion of the prosecution. These laws are situational and are subject to interpretation.
The ages of consent in the countries of Central America range from 15 to 18.
Still could have been worse, he could have been cozying up to people like Saddam Hussein, Colonel Gaddafi, and various dubious leaders of former Soviet republics, but you'd never catch someone like Andy, let alone a British Ptime-minister, hanging out with despots and mass-murderers...
Oh, wait...
Two Monkey Dust in a day
buying off under age girls
Hmmm, not sure that's actually correct though, is it?
As regards Epstein, it's wholly on the money;
[url= http://cases.bms11.com/Documents/FL76/09-34791/ECF_DOC_1603_10567451.pdf ]Girls as young as 12 recruited as sex slaves[/url]
How much Prince Andrew knew of this is subject to conjecture at this stage, however, it is said that Ghislaine Maxwell (Robert Maxwell's Daughter and the woman in the picture further up the thread) is described as a madam and [url= http://www.****/news/article-2894911/Andrew-age-sex-slave-Duke-denies-claim-court-papers-teen-picked-sleep-Robert-Maxwell-s-daughter.html ]‘a primary co-conspirator in [Epstein’s] sexual abuse and sex trafficking scheme’.[/url]
Can't say with certainty that everything presented in this link is wholly true, but it's conceivable... among documented fact is:
[url= http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/sandringham-and-jeffrey-epstein.html ]In December 2000, Jeffrey Epstein, visited Sandringham. Epstein was given permission to land his private jet at an RAF base for the visit.
The flight log of Epstein's Gulfstream showed it landed at RAF Marham on 7 December 2000, before Epstein visited the Queen's Norfolk residence. [/url]
[quote=teamhurtmore said]C_R, almost choked on that one!
One night in Bangkok ?
I think midnight hour nailed it
I had daughters of my own, so I could relate even more to how disgusting the behaviour of this convicted criminal has been.
Andy's old obviously a dick if he doesn't abandon a 'friend' who's got that background
Or he knows he has to keep him onside.
Still could have been worse, he could have been cozying up to people like Saddam Hussein, Colonel Gaddafi, and various dubious leaders of former Soviet republics,
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it's shocking obviously a wrong un'
Dershowitz (sic) was on radio a few minutes ago denying everything..mentioned Rothschild and a former PM. Only thing missing from his speech was lizard men.
anagallis_arvensis - MemberOr he knows he has to keep him onside.
This certainly has a ring of truth about it.
So if you had a good friend (not just a pub mate) that was convicted of a similar offence that had no direct impact on you what would you do? I'd like to think I would not just abandon them?
I am struggling to think of a reason to remain friends with a middle aged gent who shags 14 year olds for money
Could you explain your thinking?
Personally I would drop the convicted sex offender like a hot stone pausing momentarily only to [s]hurl abuse[/s] express my disappointment at them
So for someone not up to speed with this story, exactly how old is the girl in the pic who Jive linked to with her breast hanging out...
Just checking incase I need to wipe my hard disk before I get carted away in the nonce wagon...
Turns out Alan Dershowitz, who also stands accused and denies claims, stating Jane Doe #3 is a liar, was on OJ Simpson's defence team.
What happened with OJ Simpson in the end anyhoo?
Find Jeffrey Epstein's extensive VIP contacts very interesting, given his apparent trafficking racket, it reminded me of the Franklin Scandal:
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[url= http://www.sott.net/article/236161-Men-Who-Hate-Women-The-Franklin-Scandal-and-the-Truth-About-Our-Leaders ]Mounting evidence to suggest that many elites indulge in similar (and worse) activities[/url]
Seems Andrew may have lobbied the US government on behalf of Epstein:
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I'd like to think I would not just abandon them?
I wouldn't[i] just[/i] abandon them, no. But I don't think that's what you mean!