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You live in STW? This sounds just like the kind of shit the joyless, po-faced middle class, free-range, vegan, organic, ethically sourced yoghurt knitters round there would pull
Corrected for you.
I'be avoided the school run and play dates and all that other associated shit just to avoid all those type of parents that are just do gooder interfering types. Kids seem to have done ok by it as well.
I’m not sure scotroutes is trolling here - just being a bit old-fashioned, which is forgivable given that he is from a previous generation to most of us here.
WTF @ OP, you must be a gigantic wallflower to take any offence at that email and have some over-inflated ego issues to think it was personally directed at you (I'm not even sure 'what' was directed at you, they're just relaying what happened to them not themselves judging parents of kids that bring sweets in).
Anyway kids high on haribo are probably a nightmare no primary school teacher is paid enough to have to deal with so maybe go with the school's wishes next time.
Anyway kids high on haribo are probably a nightmare no primary school teacher is paid enough to have to deal with so maybe go with the school’s wishes next time.
I believe he stated many times the teacher said it was OK.
Indeed - if there was a published policy or guidance, then fine, but (to date) there hasn’t been.
PS, I don’t think wallflower means what you think it means...
Published policy on bringing sweets in? Oh for the love of god!!!! Isn't having sweets a sworn privilege when at school?
However i suppose we have to protect the fat kids so let's have a blanket ban on everything fun!
I’m not sure scotroutes is trolling here – just being a bit old-fashioned, which is forgivable given that he is from a previous generation to most of us here.
That would explain it although difficult to excuse. Bit like the old racist nan.
I’m not sure scotroutes is trolling here – just being a bit old-fashioned, which is forgivable given that he is from a previous generation to most of us here.
1910?
Published policy on bringing sweets in
Unfortunately, due to children being sent into school with lunches consisting of leftover Macci D's from the night before or simply a large bag of Haribo and can of Monster (I kid you not - do you fancy teaching a 7 year old that's drunk a 1 pint can of that on the way to school?!), these things are essential.
Sounds more hard work than it is. It's simply a one pager produced by the school, and usually stuck online in .pdf format, that explains what and what isn't suitable for children to bring in for lunches. Salad yes, cans of Red Bull no. Treats for celebrations? Yes, but ask the parents first.
Most of the time schools turn a blind eye to kids bringing in a few sweets as a treat, but you need to have something in place for when it becomes too much or someone is abusing the system. It gives the power to the class teacher to say no when they want and pass responsibility to the school leaders to deal with such situations, as it should be leaving them free to teach.
Children should eat healthily at school, and in previous generations schools could ask nicely and parents would do it. Unfortunately now you have to write a policy to point to otherwise you can't enforce anything. It goes along with policies on bullying, behaviour, homework, etc. That's how school are run.
However i suppose we have to protect the fat kids so let’s have a blanket ban on everything fun!
No, sweets aren't banned in school, however if you want to feed them, or anything, to other peoples children you need to ask them in advance.
If you can imagine the issue it would cause if one kid were feeding another kid with militant vegan parents his leftover McNuggets each day then you get the idea.
It’s great that schools are helping to promote health eating by only selling and allowing healthy products. Can we lay the sugar rush thing to be though.
https://www.fatherly.com/health-science/theres-no-thing-sugar-rush-according-science/
You should go round to the school and beat the living shit out of the other dad in front of all the kids.
Plunge your fist through his rib cage and rip out his still-beating heart and eat it right there.
Children (especially the young ones) are so shielded from the brutality of life. This will be a lesson in what is truly important in life, and also establish your dominance over the pack.
Win win.
Then having pudding.
Oh dont worry, as a parent of two kids ive a rough idea of all these policy documents you're on about, and i fully appreciate that some parents are just ****ing thick.
I genuinely feel sorry for these kids and you do see them at most schools, they really do have a shit start in life with idiots like that looking after them.
I genuinely feel sorry for these kids and you do see them at most schools, they really do have a shit start in life with idiots like that looking after them.
That’s a bit harsh the teachers are just doing a job.
I genuinely feel sorry for these kids and you do see them at most schools, they really do have a shit start in life with idiots like that looking after them.
You're completely right, it's not the kids fault, they are invariably a symptom of the parents and "village" that are bringing them up.
Can we lay the sugar rush thing to be though.
I agree, the sugar rush thing has been debunked, as the insulin "spike" thing is following.
However, it's not the issue with a can of Monster! It's the 160mg of caffine, twice that of a Red Bull, that's the issue here!
The two main problems with high sugar products for lunch are satiety and lack of nutrition. Sugar rushes, as you say, aren't really a thing despite all sorts of confirmation bias observations of behaviour.
Yeah the energy drink thing is another the parents need to sort that out, my kids have never had one and have no interest in trying any. I put it down to simply I don’t drink it so they’ve never taken any interest, that and I’ve told them they’re shite.
I’m not sure scotroutes is trolling here – just being a bit old-fashioned, which is forgivable given that he is from a previous generation to most of us here.
I'd say the opposite is true. It was the way of generations in the past to ingest as much sugar as possible without a single thought about it.
There are numerous health concerns from sugar and it's something I feel quite strongly about when it comes to giving it to kids. It's near impossible to prevent a kid from eating refined sugar in our current society, but when a responsible adult has the choice of giving their kids something good, or something bad, I cannot fathom why 9 times out of 10 they will go for the latter. And if they started doing that with my kids, then yes, I'd be annoyed too. It's not something that should happen at school.
I’d say the opposite is true. It was the way of generations in the past to ingest as much sugar as possible without a single thought about it.
You didn’t read his post I see.
It’s near impossible to prevent a kid from eating refined sugar in our current society
It’s not really though is it? It’s actually no harder then when I was a kid, back when you could by a king size mars bar and super size can of coke at school. Not these mini size excuse of a mars bar now and no super size can of coke.
You didn’t read his post I see.
I skimmed through the thread, may well have missed some.
Plunge your fist through his rib cage and rip out his still-beating heart and eat it right there.
Kano wins! Fatality!
Not these mini size excuse of a mars bar now and no super size can of coke.
"Mars Duo" still exists. They dodged the "king size" bullet by splitting it in half. Two servings, you see.
Quite why folk don't wean kids on Diet Coke rather than full fat from the outset I don't know.
I suspect scotroutes is using a "reductio ad absurdum" arguement
Quite why folk don’t wean kids on Diet Coke rather than full fat from the outset I don’t know.
That's not weaning kids. That's kidding weans.
Quite why folk don’t wean kids on Diet Coke rather than full fat from the outset I don’t know.
Better still, don't encourage them to drink it at all. Only recently (nearly 9yrs old) have we started allowing ours to have fizzy drinks at all. One doesn't like them, the other has an occasional can of lemonade.
“Mars Duo” still exists. They dodged the “king size” bullet by splitting it in half. Two servings, you see.
They’re not as big though. The thing there’s such a fuss about kids, processed and sugary foods but it was worse it in the 70s and 80s than it is now. Processed food was launched in the 70s and 80s to make cheap and affordable shopping, it’s stuck around since then. It needs controlled yes but it’s no a new phenomenon.
I suspect scotroutes is using a “reductio ad absurdum” arguement
The Greek defence.
My lad who's 13 would drink fanta/coke etc with every meal if he could. However he doesn't because we don't let him, we don't have it readily available in the house, simple parenting, I'm 42, you're 13 and until you get older you'll do as i say, how hard is It? I see it as, a treat perhaps if we've been to the chippy or having a pub meal out or this weekwnd when camping. Otherwise it's milk, and he drinks a lot of that which I'm sure someone will come along and say that that is also killing him.
How do these "traditions" get started? No-one brought stuff in for the rest of the class when I was at school. It seems unnecessary, and just creates an expectation that everyone else has to keep up with. I'll bet the tradition inflates with time as well, and people start bringing in bigger goody bags and buying little gifts...Sounds simpler all round just to have a school policy that you don't bring in sweets for everyone.
Drac - roman 😉
Processed food was launched in the 70s and 80s to make cheap and affordable shopping, it’s stuck around since then.
Depends what you mean by processed food. Yes, tinned food was prevalent but most households in the 70s didn’t even own a freezer. I did my degree in food science in the early 90s and ready meals were only just appearing on the shelves and being described as ‘the next big thing’.
The general diet in the 70s was crap but not because of the over-processed food that’s so widely available today. (And I certainly didn’t consume as many sweets or pop as my kids do. Not through lack of trying.)
I genuinely feel sorry for these kids and you do see them at most schools, they really do have a shit start in life with idiots like that looking after them.
I blame ineffective teacher training. Research has shown that half of all teachers are below average and that training teachers more doesn't make any difference to that.
Wooahhh there I wasn't teacher bashing, it wasn' aimed at the teachers, it was aimed at the parents. The one who's little darlings never so wrong etc.
read it again wrightyson....
same as half of drivers are below average
same as half of drivers are below average
only if you assume a normal distribution around the mean.
Drac – roman
No it’s definitely Greek origin.
Oh perchy 😂😂😂
That’s not weaning kids. That’s kidding weans.
I gave my tutor group/form class chocolate cake today lol...
As a 50s child of a farm worker this was not always the case, many mothers also worked on farms(mother was a dairy maid and then a cleaner)
This is nothing new. My kids were at primary school during the ‘80s and there were many “well to do” parents using their “influence” to get “unhealthy” foods banned from the school
Daughter is a primary teacher and rarely gets through her Easter eggs from one year to next!!!!
@jakester, re. Original post.
yeah, don’t give your kid sugary crap.
you’re not doing him any favours by encouraging a sweet tooth.
I had a giggle at the “Freshly cut fruit, organic milk and quinoa” for lunch
no peanuts or fizzy cans at my son's primary. no issue with cake at birthdays but we don't send any in.
bodgy@jakester, re. Original post.
yeah, don’t give your kid sugary crap.
you’re not doing him any favours by encouraging a sweet tooth.
Phew, thanks for the sage parenting advice. Whatever would I have done without you?
We've already changed the breakfast Red Bulls to sugar free, what more do you want?
I had a giggle at the “Freshly cut fruit, organic milk and quinoa” for lunch
I'm not even joking. I heard the line "Oh no, not dragon fruit again, I told my maid I don't like it" a couple of weeks ago. It got a full blown belly laugh from me - and plenty of grief to the kid. Aaah, the joys of private international schools!
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How do these “traditions” get started?
I can only assume it's been adapted from the workplace "tradition" of bringing in cakes for your birthday by somebody who thinks kids don't get enough sweets. It's a new one on me - certainly doesn't happen at my kids' school that I'm aware of, and that's in an affluent enough area. Though the school certainly does have a healthy eating policy so I can't believe it's something which would be encouraged if anybody tried it (one of my neighbours got upset with the school when they were told not to send sweets in - she's a teacher herself FFS, but then she's also a bit er, on the large side). I certainly don't think kids shouldn't be allowed sweets and I'm not a killjoy, but it all seems a bit unnecessary to me.
How do these “traditions” get started?
In schools it's generally parents (almost always mums) looking to project how kind, generous and wonderful their family is by bequeathing food gifts to families who aren't as fortunate!