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Can anyone give me a cost of a cruise missile? In simple financial terms. Assume that I have the wherewithal to launch it etc. I just want to know how much it would cost to buy one, assuming that I could.
last time I bought one it was around 5.87
A touch under £1million each I believe.
Just going by how happy they seem to be to use them, I reckon about a tenner. Give or take.
Complete stab in the dark, £65,000.
With or without VAT?
Two carbon fat bikes and a Jeff Jones Truss fork.
it's the delivery costs you need to worry about
Blimey- that was fast!
Ernie- source?
Ernie cheated, approximate costs are on wikipedia (where else). A Storm Shadow (as used by the RAF) costs £790,000 and we ordered 900 of them!
Still if you think that we bombed a city flat with 1000 4 engine heavies but still usually missed the main targets in WW2 I suppose that is cheap if the 97% success rate is to be believed.
Were around a million a pop during the Gulf war iirc.
Ernie cheated
I read it in the Guardian today.
Here's another source :
http://www.economist.com/node/21563702
On One are doing some - direct - for about half that. The paint is a bit dodgy and some of the fins are squint and need hand-finished.
You could go the Superstar route too. They are available in any anodized colour you want but might only make it half way to the target.
[url= http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/block-iv-xgm-109-tomahawk-chopped-07423/ ]Within the existing Tomahawk program, yearly budgets are rising even though the number of missiles per year remains constant at 196. This is pushing flyaway cost for new missiles from $956,000 in FY 2013 to about $1.2 million[/url]
no idea if it's dependable source though
You could go the Superstar route too. They are available in any anodized colour you want but might only make it half way to the target.
So Superstar are re-branding SCUD missiles as Tomahawks?
I found some on e-bay from China, much cheaper do you think it will be fine?
Looks like we won't need to buy any more for a while...
Chinese copies on e bay cheap but don't let the Mods find out or the thread will get closed then reopened.
[quote=nick1962 ]Chinese copies on e bay cheap but don't let the Mods find out or the thread will get closed then reopened.
ROFLCOPTERS!!
depends who is buying, discount for big orders init
Unless something changes for the better (hopefully), I hear Syria may have a shipment coming in that might exceed what they want, so a good deal might be available (although used, not new)
[quote=timc ]depends who is buying, discount for big orders init
Do you get a discount when they are delivered? BOGOF offers for Syria??
[quote=BigEaredBiker ]Ernie cheated, approximate costs are on wikipedia (where else). A Storm Shadow (as used by the RAF) costs £790,000 and we ordered 900 of them!
Bad move as they are now obsolete.
The new versions have an increased diameter, enabling them to fly more smoothly (though it does affect their maneuverability).
Nope, they're already superseded by a design that's exactly half the difference in size between the original and old 'new' model. Apparently it gives the best of both worlds and should have been the specification in the first place.
@scotroutes- brilliant 🙂
maybe thats why they are £790K
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Bad move as they are now obsolete.
The new versions have an increased diameter, enabling them to fly more smoothly (though it does affect their maneuverability).
Damn... we better find an excuse use them up before the warranty expires...
🙁
New 650b Cruise, literally making the bombing zone come alive*
*may not be true
They should only be used if there's a guaranteed no-returns policy....
Buy ? Build your own
I'm sure there was a kiwi who built his own version from some off the shelf items, he published it on the web
The powers that be seemed to be slightly miffed
http://www.interestingprojects.com/cruisemissile/
It's safe to say arounf $1M USD in purchase price but the true cost is a little bit more complicated and works out a lot better value.
If you consider the cost of operating and maintaining an aircraft to drop conventional bombs and factor in the risk of losing that aircraft then then they start to make sense and then you have the benefit of lower risk of losing a pilot.
Do you need different Cruise missiles for mud?
I'd really like a fast rolling good one that lasts a while but also hits the spot and makes a lot of noise. Is that moon on a stick thinking?
Well played Mikewsmith.
Do they come with a crown race?
they are free and delivery is ace....right into the window of your choice! you just need to use chemical weapons on your local population before some western government will send you a couple.
Price or cost? I reckon the cost of each Misile is the death of a fair few innocent people. So it's about how you reckon those innocent lives cost or the price we put on them, and are they worth the tally score at the end of the shootout? £800000 for a tomahawk. How much for a life?
Can they claim back VAT after it left the shore?
[quote=Kevevs ]Price or cost? I reckon the cost of each Misile is the death of a fair few innocent people. So it's about how you reckon those innocent lives cost or the price we put on them, and are they worth the tally score at the end of the shootout? £800000 for a tomahawk. How much for a life?
Depends which country. That is the scary fact about this, hint of Chemical weapons in the west and we would have launched everything at anyone. This is only Syria....
Seems to be a clown race on to use them.
Price or cost? I reckon the cost of each Misile is the death of a fair few innocent people. So it's about how you reckon those innocent lives cost or the price we put on them, and are they worth the tally score at the end of the shootout? £800000 for a tomahawk. How much for a life?
And how would Tomahawks save civilian lives? Are we going to put special forces on the ground so that we can identify every possible delivery system that might be hiding in and around the country and then mark the target for attack, as Tomahawks are for all intents and purposes GPS guided.
Not to mention at the moment the Syian Army is fighting the Kurds who are fighting Al Nusra who are in an uneasy alliance with the FSA who are fighting the Syrian Army. Al-Nusra were caught with 2kg of Sarin in Turkey btw.
So when Assad is gone the Kurds are probably going to end up fighting both Al Nusra and the FSA, whilst the latter will both be fighting each other.
So if saving lives is the goal why not shorten the war and save lives by giving Assad the capability of blitzkrieging both the Kurds, the FSA and Al Nusra?
To many ethnic backgrounds with to many religious variations in to small an area with easy access to weapons coupled with lots of angry young men, poor education or low IQ's and the idea that god is on their side.
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Buy ? Build your own...
I'm now waiting to see who disappears from this forum after spending too long reading everything on that site.
I hope I'm not being too paranoid about our....
Hang on! Someone's just knocked the front door in....
Tom, I like the cartoon; it rings true.
The real weapons of mass killing are really just the simple Assault Rifle i.e. the AK47. Very cheap to buy or mass produce copies of, you just need to recruit the boys to carry them to your cause.
The new versions have an increased diameter, enabling them to fly more smoothly (though it does affect their maneuverability).
This isnt a 29er thread !!!
Really Edric? Really??
And they say humour doesn't come across well in the written word 🙄
You could go the Superstar route too. They are available in any anodized colour you want but might only make it half way to the target.
DO NOT launch by hitting it with a rock. This WILL Invalidate your Warranty.
What size box do CRC use the ship them in?
North Korea knocks em out at bargain basement prices and they are truly works of art to behold~ they are non lethal and the best part is that they are recyclable too being made of papier mache.
I'm holding out for 12 spd though, just to make sure I have the right kill ratio
I found some on e-bay from China, much cheaper do you think it will be fine?
PayPal gift is cheaper.
Everything you need to know:
[url= http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/how-tomahawk-cruise-missiles-send-message-syria-8C11022222 ]NBCNews link[/url]
Fox Missiles are posh
Is the paint finish helitape compatible, as don't want to mark it before I use them?
I've got a few left over from my last Regime Change project, I can post them to you if you want to Paypal Gift me $500k?