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Enjoyed it, some of the CGI was slightly ropey but overall worth a watch.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 8:45 am
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I enjoyed it, but a missed opportunity IMO by playing to the formula.

There was an opportunity for more of the wonderful scenery, and I wondered if a longer deeper look into Comanche life by slowing the pace in a kind of Dances with Wolves style piece may have added more interest and mystique. The French hunters were too abruptly introduced IMO.

Perhaps a balance of Comanche life with the naturalist background with the hunters starting to impact their life, and then subtly people on both sides go missing leading to the intro to the predator have been better.

Worth pointing out to some people that by the time of he final scene (for the predator) he’d been wounded quite a few times, and exhausted a lot of his weaponary. Comanche were known to be fierce and brave warriors using stealth, guile and speed to overcome a larger enemy based on their need to defend/hunt lions and bears, and to capture horses for trade, which I thought the hunting scenes were trying to portray.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 10:02 am
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Watched last night, very good and I wasn't an enthusiastic fan of the original.


 
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The Comanche were the biggest letdown, that warrior party reminded me more of stereotypical jocks from teen movies, they even had the accent, it was certainly no dances with wolves style realism!

The scenery was the best bit, again, it was an hour and a half of brain off action stuff, nothing more.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 10:57 am
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and I wondered if a longer deeper look into Comanche life by slowing the pace in a kind of Dances with Wolves style piece may have added more interest and mystique.

That’s would have been a truely terrible idea. It’s a predator movie, not a 4 hr Kevin Costner epic

Enjoyed it, however the bit where the girl starts fighting the predator one on one was just daft. It’s just ripped a bear in 2 ffs…


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 10:59 am
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The Comanche were the biggest letdown

So how should they have been portrayed? This was supposed to 1719 where very little evidence of their culture exists.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 11:50 am
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So how should they have been portrayed? This was supposed to 1719 where very little evidence of their culture exists.

As i said previously, bit less US High School theme, probably less of the clean cut as well all round, i'd read stuff prior that said this movie was going to be using the language and so on, guess that was somebody that had watched Apocalypto instead 😂


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 12:29 pm
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i’d read stuff prior that said this movie was going to be using the language and so on,

It is, there's two versions & you can watch both.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 12:30 pm
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Watched it last night. Deffo a good watch and a new direction the franchise has gone. Away with the usual USA guns guns guns and cliche'd one liners


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 12:42 pm
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Enjoyed it, however the bit where the girl starts fighting the predator one on one was just daft. It’s just ripped a bear in 2 ffs…

It hadn’t been shot in the head, torso, arms, legs and had a spear chucked through it when it fought the bear. Poor predator took a bit of a beating in between and was probably knackered. I also think it massively underestimated her too.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 1:14 pm
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It hadn’t been shot in the head, torso, arms, legs and had a spear chucked through it when it fought the bear. Poor predator took a bit of a beating in between and was probably knackered.

Yeah, he was a bit of a shit predator, also got bitten by a wolf.

I also think it massively underestimated her too.

I don't think anyone had a chance to underestimate her, she beat and killed everyone with minimal fuss, even the 7ft predator, she was more of a predator than the predator, i don't even think she had a hair out of place at the end!


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 1:23 pm
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"Clean cut" - got a feeling that Native Americans weren't known for their beards!


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 1:24 pm
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Yeah, he was a bit of a shit predator, also got bitten by a wolf

Ryan Airey on Screencrush makes the point that it looks like it's the predator's first hunt- one of many parallels between it and Naru. I also liked that fact that this happened 200 years ago, so (unlike Star Wars!) there has probably been as much technological advancement amongst the aliens as there has been here


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 1:32 pm
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“Clean cut” – got a feeling that Native Americans weren’t known for their beards!

Clean cut as in the whole setup, not facial hair!

Ryan Airey on Screencrush makes the point that it looks like it’s the predator’s first hunt

Wasn't that the case for most of the predator movies, they're doing their rights of passage on earth to gain their mark?


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 1:38 pm
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The 200 years of tech Advancment doesn’t wash for me

The predator has travelled in a spacecraft, has invisibility tech, weird flying bomb thingies, but no lasers??

Also I agree, he was a shit predator compared with the fella in the first film. Going back to the earlier analogy about fat Americans big game hunting, I suspect back on his home planet the predator in the latest film was probably a dentist…


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 2:03 pm
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I suspect back on his home planet the predator in the latest film was probably a dentist…

He did have a lovely set of mandibles.

I think the Predators match weapons to the prey. So no lasers as there were no equivalents like in the first movie. Assault rifles, chain guns etc. Probably why it stuck to darts, spears and bladed weapons.

It could’ve just lasered Arnie’s face off in the first movie rather than disabling its weapons. To anyone complaining about Naru beating it in a straight fight my only answer is a 43 year old Danny Glover. Overweight, out of shape guy, constantly sweating and with a stoop had a fist fight with one.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 2:12 pm
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Wasn’t that the case for most of the predator movies, they’re doing their rights of passage on earth to gain their mark

Yep, it might be!


 
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I also liked that fact that this happened 200 years ago, so (unlike Star Wars!) there has probably been as much technological advancement amongst the aliens as there has been here

Again: AVP had Predators thousands of years back when Antarctica was ice free.

Do you simply ignore bits and just claim they aren't Canon?


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 3:05 pm
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I'm pretty relaxed about ignoring the AVP films


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 3:21 pm
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Yeah, they’re sufficiently terrible that I’m perfectly happy to Highlander II them 😀

Prey was very watchable.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 3:31 pm
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Do you simply ignore bits and just claim they aren’t Canon?

Yep


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 3:40 pm
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Dumbasses! This is real and important!
... oh, wait...


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 3:56 pm
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Enjoyed it, better than some recent films - don't mention Spiderhead.

PS wasn't as good as the new Minions !

Will agree with the CGI animals - looked a bit 'cheap'.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 4:00 pm
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I think the Predators match weapons to the prey. So no lasers as there were no equivalents like in the first movie. Assault rifles, chain guns etc. Probably why it stuck to darts, spears and bladed weapons.

So he cheated with flying bombs and his invisiblity tech then?? Poor show from Mr Predator if that’s the case, and glad he got his comeuppance

Also as other have pointed out, for a Disney film there was a fair amount of gore!


 
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Dumbasses! This is real and important!
… oh, wait…

Haha! 😄


 
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🙂


 
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Poor show from Mr Predator if that’s the case, and glad he got his comeuppance

I actually started to feel sorry for the intergalactic dentist. Took a proper beatdown in the third act. Even the dog got in on the action 😂


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 7:35 pm
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Even the dog got in on the action

Anyone else spend most of the film thinking 'this is the dog's last scene surely?' while totally hoping it wasn't in case the room got suddenly dusty?


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 8:30 pm
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Yep 😊


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 8:49 pm
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This sounds like it might be quite funny to watch. Is it better than a Bruce Willis film from the past two years?


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 9:15 pm
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It’s really good in my opinion. Up there with the first one and beautifully shot


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 9:22 pm
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It could’ve just lasered Arnie’s face off in the first movie rather than disabling its weapons. To anyone complaining about Naru beating it in a straight fight my only answer is a 43 year old Danny Glover. Overweight, out of shape guy, constantly sweating and with a stoop had a fist fight with one.

You know Danny Glover was in pretty good shape in the 80s and early 90s, he just wore a baggy shirt, he's also 6ft 4" tall, Naru was played by someone who is 5ft 5" and half the weight of Glover.

Not that this should actually matter though, the predator is a 7ft destroyer and had single punched a bear to death, thrown french folk like ragdolls and had a toy for every occasion, it's just in the final act Naru absolutely destroyed it, without so much as a bloody nose for her, you never really felt like she was in any real danger throughout the movie.


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 10:43 pm
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Anyone else feel a bit cringe about the indians having LA usa accents?


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 11:11 pm
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There's a Comanche language version too


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 11:21 pm
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I thought it wasn’t too bad. Visually it was absolutely stunning.

Yes the Predators fight reasonably fair, no pew pew lasers but did have guided arrows. They don’t kill randomly though they have to be a threat and armed

Anyone else feel a bit cringe about the indians having LA usa accents?

Did you want them to speak like they did in old western movies then?


 
Posted : 06/08/2022 11:29 pm
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You know Danny Glover was in pretty good shape in the 80s and early 90s, he just wore a baggy shirt, he’s also 6ft 4″ tall,

I watched Predator 2 a few weeks back. He moves and acts like somebody’s grandad in it and he was only 43 at the time. They’re all mad sci-fi but he comes across as the least capable protagonist out of all the main films.

Get what you mean about Naru though. For two thirds of the film the Predator ignores her and by the time it sees her as any kind of threat it’s been utterly beaten to shit.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 12:04 am
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For two thirds of the film the Predator ignores her and by the time it sees her as any kind of threat it’s been utterly beaten to shit.

Which is why the film might be better (if still heavy handedly) written than we're giving it credit for? Still a bit dodgy overlaying modern sensibilities onto an archaic, non-European culture...

(if I still taught Media Studies it would genuinely be an interesting text to look at)

Cool to see others enjoying its visuals. I think on reflection that's what surprised and pleased me most about it - a pretty generic action movie with a beautiful indie / arthouse visual sensibility. Fantastic use of natural light at times.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 12:15 am
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Not that this should actually matter though, the predator is a 7ft destroyer and had single punched a bear to death,

And connected a couple of good shots on Naru in the final fight that didn't leave a mark on her.

The caked in mud IR invisibility equivalent of the botanical that her lowered body temp didn't convince either. When she gave it to the Commanche and Frenchman it knocked them out yet she could take a dose of it and remain upright as the Predator walked right by her.

All in all I was underwhelmed by it.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 1:03 am
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I'd have loved to have watched this one in a cinema. The cinematography in the wilds was great. Reminded me of the thrill the first time I shoved my Insta360 One Rs footage in my TV. Audio cranked right up would have been an experience too.

As it was, at home on a 54" 4k TV and bassy bookshelf speakers only hinted at the experience it could have been.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 2:42 am
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When she gave it to the Commanche and Frenchman it knocked them out yet she could take a dose of it and remain upright as the Predator walked right by her.

I wonder if it’s possible to use smaller amounts. The Comanche wasn’t knocked out, he asked for to kept warm.

For two thirds of the film the Predator ignores her and by the time it sees her as any kind of threat it’s been utterly beaten to shit.

She was unarmed.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 7:52 am
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I'll just leave this here


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 8:25 am
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Cougar

the sequence where they unload all the firepower into the jungle to no effect…

We’ve all been there, mate.

🤣🤣🤣

Only just read this thread- if this comment has been overlooked that is criminal.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 9:08 am
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I wasn't too bothered with the plot hole stuff like that herb to reduce body temperature going against the reality of hypothermia and so on, same with how she was able to work out the arrow guidance even though she was hidden behind a tree the other side of the mask, and so on, it's an alien action movie so suspending belief is what it's about, same with Naru dancing around the trees and having elite parkour skills, again it's an action movie where they want the scenes to look big and fast paced.

I just didn't like how bad the predator was, it might as well have not had the cloaking device with it walking around in the open and just meandering up to the comanches/french, it just didn't seem that threatening except with the bear. The ending as well was a bit weak, i loved the ending of the original, you had Arnie in the chopper looking absolutely destroyed, both physically and mentally after his battle and all the losses he's suffered, Naru just wandered back looking as fresh as at the start.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 9:10 am
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I like the fact that the producers are thinking out the box and having a Pred show up in historical locations could work really well!
Where would you like Predator to show up in history next to interrupt proceedings?
Gladitorial Rome? Vikings? Victorian England at Christmas? lol.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 11:08 am
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There’s a couple of fan made shorts on YouTube. One of them is set in medieval times and isn’t bad for a super low budget short.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YRD8jAk274I


 
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Where would you like Predator to show up in history next to interrupt proceedings

Ash Vs Pred, medieval style, chk chk groovy.....


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 1:14 pm
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Did you watch till the end of the animation during the end credits? It shows three more ships returning, suggesting a potential sequel…


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 1:54 pm
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Did you watch till the end of the animation during the end credits? It shows three more ships returning, suggesting a potential sequel…

Christ i hope not, Prey stayed on the right side of the scale because it was a new environment, timeline, etc, you stick a sequel on this and it'll just turn into the Aliens vs Predator malarky.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 3:03 pm
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I enjoyed it. A good antidote to the usual hyper masculine stuff. Pacing was good and well shot too.


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 3:24 pm
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I'm watching it now. What an utter pile of cack!
I hate how that pratt of a director has wasted this opportunity. He doesn't understand the genre.


 
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Ha ha! My wife's saved the day; "That's Tommawang!" She exclaimed.


 
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I'm trying and failing to place it on my all time scale of Sci fi movies. Let's just say Chronicles of Riddick is looking down on it from a great height.


 
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You’re not watching it, you’re playing on your phone!


 
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30 mins left and I pronounced it a bag of shite. If I was given millions of dollars to make a film, the first thing I'd do would be to find a decent script writer. There are so many amazingly talented people out there yet the money so often seems to go to the mediocre.


 
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Yet strangely pretty much all the critics and everyone on here thought it was pretty good!

Who knew they were all wrong😁


 
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I know, it amazes me too!


 
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Seriously though. The key element of great sci fi is that it's believable. You should be immersed in the world it creates.
If you thought this was believable then I don't know what to say to you.

I mean, basic stuff at the beginning. Bears don't behave like that, they just don't. Snap! The whole construct collapses.
Decent scriptwriter would have been way more subtle.


 
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What about that wolf stalking the rabbit a few metres away? "Hey guys" says the committee, let's make it growl! "More scary that way".
"But the wolf would be flat to the ground and slient" says the expert. We could build suspense and confusion into the storyline, laying the seeds of fear in the viewers minds.
"Nah! Growling's more scary" Committee wins.

Sorry! But I do like to rant about this genre.


 
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Did you watch till the end of the animation during the end credits? It shows three more ships returning, suggesting a potential sequel…

There was an animation at the end? Like an end credits scene?


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 10:17 pm
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What about that wolf stalking the rabbit a few metres away?

The entire premise is an Alien who comes to earth to hunt humans, and can turn invisible

Once I’ve suspended my level of disbelief over that, the hunting strategy of bears and wolves didn’t even register 😂

That’s said, I’m with the poster who pointed out that the hero didn’t have a mark on her despite being thrown from pillar to post by a 7 foot Alien capable of killing a bear. That for me is a step too far!!


 
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Let’s just say Chronicles of Riddick is looking down on it from a great height.

That's just taking it too far, the Chronicles of Riddick look down at no film, ever 😂


 
Posted : 07/08/2022 11:14 pm
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Much as I kind of like the cheesefest of Chronicles Of Riddick (which would have been much better if it wasn't trying to be about 4 or 5 different films all at once), Prey is a much more coherent and better made thing in spite of it's apparently unbelievable fantasy elements.

For me, it doesn't really need to do world building - it's a pretty honest monster movie, not 2001.


 
Posted : 08/08/2022 12:00 am
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Enjoyed that. My daughter, who is very switched on, pointed out that nobody including the predator was taking her seriously and she was going to kick their asses.

Glad the dog was OK.


 
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After enjoying Prey on Saturday last night I watched The Predator (2018) and enjoyed that again too.
Olivia Munn helped but the action was fun, there was a dog and a couple of Predator dogs and a two Preds.
What's not to love?
And of course the comments about him not bring a predator, more a trophy hunter. Not such a good title for a film.


 
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Got round to watching this last night. Found it rather entertaining and the new Predator was pretty badass. It did have the feel of a TV movie (which essentially it was) and some of the action sequences felt a bit 'Marvelised' (overuse of CGI, Predator flying around like he/she/it? had wings) Some of the animal GCI looked a bit hokey too.

Obviously the macho types are going to complain that the Predator, which Arnie struggled with, was defeated by a young girl, but I think they did it in a believable way.

Overall I'd give it a solid 3.5 / 5.


 
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People did spot the gun at the end is the one given to Danny Glover at the end of Preaditor 2 right?*

* i may be making 2+2=5


 
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Watched it with a few beers on saturday. All boxes ticked.


 
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People did spot the gun at the end is the one given to Danny Glover at the end of Preaditor 2 right?*

One and the same. Unless it's just an offhand Easter Egg, one question for any sequel is then how it ends up in the Predators' possession (presumably they have to kill its current owner and take it as a trophy).


 
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Obviously the macho types are going to complain that the Predator, which Arnie struggled with, was defeated by a young girl, but I think they did it in a believable way.

I'm not sure it was believable going by what had happened prior, it felt more like she beat them in a Home Alone style 😂

As for not taking her seriously, i'm not sure i saw that in the movie that much, the French were all trying to kill her, but she went through them and killed them more effectively than the predator, again not sure the predator cares about macho, it'll kill a rabbit or a bear for sport.


 
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People did spot the gun at the end is the one given to Danny Glover at the end of Preaditor 2 right?*
yeah, shame they made a massive fuss about it, would've been cooler to leave the audience to notice it & wonder whether it was supposed to be the same! (Its origin was explained in one of the many Pred comics, I doubt that story will carry over though).


 
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Me and my wife just watched it, meh.... I'll not be recommending it to anyone, just thought it was a bit naff and Disney and as my wife said metoo.


 
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Going to watch Predator 2 in a bit. Never seen it before


 
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Going to watch Predator 2 in a bit. Never seen it before

Watch it in fast forward mode.


 
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Does EVERY LA police station have a dozen scantily clad hookers in there all the time,


 
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Yep and a chief without an indoor voice who loves swearing


 
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Watched it last night. It starts a wee bit slow, filmwork is good, acting was good for a predator movie, once it got going I really enjoyed it. Liked the little animation credits hinting at some sort of sequel with the aliens ships. Good escapist fun, double thumbs up.


 
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Watch it in fast forward mode.

The only film this genuinely works for is Twister.


 
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Re Pred2, Danny Glover WAS getting too old for that shit.


 
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