So I'm hoping someone can help me out, I've been listening to a few power violence records and I'm enjoying myself but.
I'm reaching a dead end a bit.
Can anyone reccomend maybe 3 British power violence albums that I can listen to tonight as like an "introduction to power Violence" to set me on my way down the rabbit he please?
All advice welcome
Cheers.
I can't, but I'm slightly agog to see whether anyone (else, other than OP, of course) even knows what power violence is.
My money is on some obscure sub-sub-sub-branch of the sprawling family tree of metal.
Whatever it is, I don’t like it.
No specific albums to recommend but check out Gay Panic Defence and Endless Swarm. Bit much for me but enjoy! You'll probably turn up a few more bands if you dig out a few splits they've done with others.
Not powerviolence but in a similar vein, Test Switch Isolator are worth a listen too.
Discogs is your friend.
https://www.discogs.com/label/8448-Power-Violence?sort=year&sort_order=desc
Currently listening to "Chemicals" by Deadlock. Kinda like it, not into it though.
Discogs says the style is 'speedcore', just user their filters to find more:
https://www.discogs.com/search/?style_exact=Speedcore&country_exact=UK
Filter to the 2020s if you like too:
https://www.discogs.com/search/?style_exact=Speedcore&country_exact=UK&decade=2020
something from that above list that kind of thing? (this one closer to something I could listen to, 'overload of cute' actually quite like).
Many of the entries on discogs have links to youtube videos - often the people who put the stuff up are worth subscribing to if they do a lot of what you're into.
Thanks to those who have contributed, I am thoroughly enjoying gay panic defence.
I am slowly learning how to effectively use discogs I think you may have just shown me the light there. Cheers.
To those interested power violence is indeed a sub genre of punk music which in recent years, especially in the u.k has been combined with comedy and sheer joy to create something truly special. And is well worth a listening you like music.
And to the person who went out of their way to tell the world they dont like music they've never heard I wish you happiness friend.
Ah I got the wrong power violence there then 🙂
Anything on Slap-A-Ham records is a fairly safe bet.
Yeah I thought power violence was a sub genre of noise?
Now I realise that’s power electronics
I know the guys from Endless Swarm!
Not too up on this genre but there are loads of gigs around here in Edinburgh (in normal life).
Try Wheelchair Wheelchair Wheelchair Wheelchair
And to the person who went out of their way to tell the world they dont like music they’ve never heard I wish you happiness friend.
To be fair to Dezb, he's probably one of the most musically open minded round here.
Never quite sure what constitutes Power Violence as a genre but I've seen Nails tagged with it. 'Abandon all Life' is a short and brutal masterpiece. I would call it grindcore but I think that's an argument for purists, of which I'm not.
Oh, and there's a blog called Dead Air at the Pulpit, which is terribly written but highlights loads of new, obscure bands in a variety of heavy genres, including power violence. Bandcamp is also really good for finding new stuff as there are tags for all sorts of things.
sx-sc ain't wrong 🙂
I'm beginning to wonder if I should check out this genre with the awful name..
Googled Gay Panic Defence. What a hideous name for a band.
Unfortunately when it comes to the music, sound like stuff that was going on back in the 80s. Bit like local band Ad Nauseam (who's guitarist "Anarchy Brian" I once had a fight with, happy days 😀 ) Oh they're on Youtube! .
(Terrible)
Nearest I have is Discharge
Da fuc is ‘power violence’ when it’s at home? Some sort of millennial version of thrash?
I dunno, kidz of today, etc…
Sounds like Radio 3 should give it a spin late on a Sunday evening.
Power Violence has been around for decades.
Related micro-genres include 1st wave screamo / skramz / emo-power-violnce
Jerome's Dream had a great album out a few years ago. Think that may have revitalised the genre
Power Violence has been around for decades.
Yeah, and so have I, but this is the first time I’ve ever heard of it, and I’m not exactly ignorant of most music genres.
*sigh* the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Yup, just had a brief listen to Gay Panic Defense - nothing new there except the label on the tin.
Napalm Death were doing similar but much much better.
the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Wasnt that Rush 🙂 ?
And good thread, now seeing Discogs in a new light
I know the guys from Endless Swarm!
Not too up on this genre but there are loads of gigs around here in Edinburgh (in normal life).Try Wheelchair Wheelchair Wheelchair Wheelchair
I think everyone knows Dave!
I’m not exactly ignorant of most music genres.
Er, how would you know if you hadn't heard of them?! 😂
Power Violence started with the Slap A Ham label and Charred Remains / Man Is the Bastard. Excellent stuff.
In the UK DIY scene its sort of merged with the grindcore bands. GPD and Endless Swarm are great shouts. Give The Afternoon Gentlemen or Gets Worse a listen. Both are pretty good and most excellent live.
Not to everyones taste im sure. But this is as good as it gets in UK PV. Amazing band.
^ at least when we used to go and watch Napalm Death the crowd looked like they were enjoying themselves.
Mind you, I do like the lyrics of that band above.
i am genuinely in a band with dave from endless swarm
when we used to go and watch Napalm Death the crowd looked like they were enjoying themselves.
[i]Power Violence[/i]....
or Gentle Head Nodding 😀
LOL at Power Violence!
Isn't Thrash Metal cool enough now! 🙂
This thread started to remind me of this 🤣
maybe NSFW
Blah blah, kids today, blah blah, music was better when i was younger, blah blah this is sort of like some other stuff i can remember so i'll dismiss it cos i'm old and no longer relevant.
Blah blah, kids today, blah blah, music was better when i was younger,
Naaah - thrash metal was shit when I was younger too! 🙂
Makes The Dead Kennedy’s sound musical…is about the kindest thing I can think of to say about it! 🤣
ok boomers
ok boomers
ha ha beat me to it.
ehrob - whats the band you are in?
ok boomers
LOL. I love DIY punk, get most of my records through bandcamp or distos like TNS. My comment on that ^ was nothing to do with it being modern, it just isn't my thing...and like it or not, it's been done muxb better over the years.
That was just core by numbers.
That was just core by numbers.
Fair enough if its not your thing. Its not exactly mine either. BUT id suggest its far superior to early Napalm Death (an obvious and lazy comparison made by others). Its much much tighter and the riffs and dynamics follow a far less obvious patten. Some of the stop / start / tempo changes are very impressive. I first saw napalm death around 86/87 and then quite regularly for a good few years and they were never as tight or precise as the afternoon gentlemen.
OK, I'll give you the stop start stuff...the drummer looked more like a jazz musician at times 🙂
its far superior
Odd phrase to use concerning music..?! It’s not superior to anything I’ve ever heard. Then again,I don’t think music is a competition, you either like it or you don’t. And if you don’t its shit 😂 That’s the language of music 😊
So you can say its shit (less good than something else) but not superior (better than something else)?
You really haven't thought that through have you? Now go back to reminiscing about how everything was better when you were (a lot) younger.
never one to miss a bit of self promotion, though not powerviolence i'm afraid.
I would say equipment and technology has helped bands like this no end, I always thought Napalm Death were taking the mickey a bit, Carcass we’re a better band as were Extreme Noise Terror.
Always funny to see yoof saying shut up old man, in 30 years you will be here Black Flag.
Quite enjoying some of this but all the types of metal genres I do find hysterical, had someone try and explain the difference between blast core and something, enjoyed his passion for the music but IMO was nonsense
in 30 years you will be here Black Flag.
If he saw napalm death in 86 I reckon he's one of us old gits 😂
(and ehrob, that's loads better than the previous link, what do you play?)
Do you need more than Minor Threat?
Everyone needs some Minor Threat
Slayer did
Not need to get cross / make people cross.
It's a thread about power violence the genre, not about being power violent!
in 30 years you will be here Black Flag.
If he saw napalm death in 86 I reckon he’s one of us old gits 😂
I certainly am. Just turned 50 this month.
Do you need more than Minor Threat?
In most instances, no. Minor Threat will cure many of life's ills.
and @ehrob - your band sound ace - "shredding is our business" lol
I'm in the metal old man gang here, and these type of threads make me smile. There is a certain type of Radio-6-Q-Mojo-magazine-indie music fan who thinks they know it all about music, but only really listen to a narrow selection. Similarly, older fans of genres do it too as they've heard it all before.
That's fine really, and with the sheer amount of music available, it's inevitable that you can't listen to everything, and stuff does sound like it's "influenced" by previous artists.
I too like to think I know a bit about music, worked in a record shop for many years, still try and keep up to date, but truthfully I'm well out of touch. There's so much music available now and I'm not young enough to just absorb stuff anymore. I also had to admit that young people aren't making music for me anymore, the rotters.
I like to think I've grown out of dismissing genres of music just because I don't like them. Partly that's growing up listening to music that people take the piss out of or don't understand, so I don't really care what you're into, and partly trying to be more open to new stuff. Apart from indie, which is just for bedwetting creeps.
Post from the 90s just appeared. How odd.
Ok, it was 2000 when Alan McGee said " Coldplay: bedwetters' music." 😛 but, can Coldplay be considered indie?!
Interesting post tbh, so how can you be
trying to be more open to new stuff.. if you think...
that young people aren’t making music for me anymore ?
Interesting post tbh
Nah, contradictory bollocks innit. I don't really think indie is for bedwetters, but did when I was younger. I don' t really think anything about bands like Coldplay, they're not for me. Fine.
To quote myself
young people aren’t making music for me anymore
, just to clarify - up to my mid 20's I worked in a record shop, knew people in bands, went to gigs regardless of who was playing. I was, I suppose, part of a scene and felt like the bands I listened to (who were my age) wrote music that reflected my life. Obviously not everything - I could like US hip hop despite having a very different background. But it gave me an identity, made me feel cool and part of something.
But now I'm a middle-aged-middle class Dad, angry young people aren't writing music for me, its quite rightly protesting against me and my planet-destroying property-owning mates. Drill and grime isn't made for me, doesn't mean I can't listen to it.
I appreciate this isn't a unique insight, it's just growing up. A lot of my mates seemed to stop listening to new music when they left Uni, and seem happy being stuck in some nostalgic "things were better in my day rut". I'm old enough now not to worry about trying to be cool or keep up with the latest music, but still like hearing new stuff. Even if it sounds like Napalm death from when I was 13.
That makes far more sense 🙂
i definitely find being involved in the scene helps keep up the motivation to find and listen to new stuff - without that, as you get older its easy to stick with what you know and love. it's a commitment though. even though i play in a metal band, i can happily admit that powerviolence isn't my number one choice, though i do enjoy the odd gig. so on that basis its clearly not for everyone.
in "metal" (its a broad church), i have noticed there's been a pattern over the last decade or more of stuff getting more and more technical and heavy - modern instruments, other tech (e.g. cheap drum triggers, plus excellent and cheap kit samples and software), playing and recording techniques have enabled it. i think that this doesn't appeal so much to older fans, as stuff is even heavier than they remembered it being when they were younger! at some point they'll be a shift in fashion back towards an older school, more groove based style i'd expect. cycles innit.
thanks for the kind words on Anomos - i play bass and do backing vocals, and i mixed the records too. we've just got back to practicing after a year off or whatever, looking to be back gigging by September with a bit of luck, but who knows.
