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[Closed] Power Blackouts - how you going to cope?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23081695

Self generation?
Blind hysterical panic?
Not give a stuff?


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 11:40 am
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crank up the woodburner and light a candle.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 11:44 am
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standard issue at my current geographical location.

would cope much better at home as i dont need ac to keep the house at barable levels of temperature and humidity


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 11:47 am
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Install woodburner then as Jambo.

May have to resort to non-electricity based recreation.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 11:51 am
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Ah, that'll be our super privatised electricity companies at work...

Well done Maggie, Major, Blair, Brown, Cleggeron.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:10 pm
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Fork handles


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:15 pm
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Will cope just fine.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:15 pm
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Eat carrots.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:16 pm
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Make sure my iPad is fully charged at all times.
Will fracking help? I'll do a bit of that too.

[i]Eat carrots[/i]
I'm sure that just said "Ear carrots". Mental images...


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:18 pm
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*Checks wood pile. Has smug grin*


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:19 pm
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Have also got a generator and some leisure batteries & inverter just in case I need to get on to the STW forum in an emergency.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:20 pm
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Candles, lamps with spare batteries, stove with spare cylinders for heating food and boiling water. Standby battery and solar charger for electronics. Not enough space for a standby generator though a kindly neighbour has one. That's for the short term. Were we to suffer widespread interruption of supplies for days then it would get very nasty.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:27 pm
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Simple, every office / apartment in Nigeria has one of these:

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8937359007/ ]Obligatory diesel generator to cope with power cuts[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:29 pm
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Turbo trainer and a car alternator or two.

Get fit _and_ power the dishwasher.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:30 pm
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Same as we did in the 70s and 80s get on with it.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:32 pm
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Nigeria.... your gen is your most valued possession. The reason why there's been zero investment in the public electricity supply over the years is that too many ministers are getting fat off the kickbacks they receive for the importation of gensets.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:35 pm
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standard issue at my current geographical location.

would cope much better at home as i dont need ac to keep the house at barable levels of temperature and humidity

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NEPA - Never expect power again !


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:38 pm
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Ah, that'll be our super privatised electricity companies at work...
Well done Maggie, Major, Blair, Brown, Cleggeron.
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Same as we did in the 70s and 80s get on with it.
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😉


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:43 pm
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Nigeria.... your gen is your most valued possession. The reason why there's been zero investment in the public electricity supply over the years is that too many ministers are getting fat off the kickbacks they receive for the importation of gensets.

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To distribute power you need a network and they havent really looked after this very well, the transformer at my hotel has bare 11kv bus bars, we are currently out here installing gas engines on Private independent power plants, there also some big turbine stations being built, I have heard they used to export power out to Ghana and Cameroon were the networks were functionable.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:44 pm
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Turns on emergency generator only to find internet doesn't work 🙁

Fast track nuclear power stations or build 70 million windmills and fart at them


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:46 pm
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I'm gonna use as much as I can now while I can.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:49 pm
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Fast track nuclear power stations or build 70 million windmills and fart at them

Just burn the gas instead!


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:49 pm
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footflaps - snap .

could take that photo outside just now.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:52 pm
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footflaps - snap .

could take that photo outside just now.

Hmmmm I smell a double login. 😉


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:56 pm
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Honda backup generator with 15-20 hours fuel stored. Only really need it for hot showers and keeping the freezer frozen.

Heating can be taken care of with the wood burners. Enough wood stored for 2 winters so we should be ok......

Better stock up on single malt and baked beans though. Looks like we only have a few days supply currently 😆


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 12:57 pm
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Was going off the idea but maybe I should install solar panels. Article says major users - I ain't one of those so will be fine....


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:03 pm
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footflaps - snap .
could take that photo outside just now.

Hmmmm I smell a double login.

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What tyres for the Niger delta?


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:08 pm
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41 years ago I remember being taken shopping in a Woolworths lit by paraffin lamps and using mechanical cash registers. Life went on as normal. Now with electronic payment and automatic doors there have been incidences of stores shutting due to a temporary local power cut.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:23 pm
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[quote=ohnohesback ]41 years ago I remember being taken shopping in a Woolworths lit by paraffin lamps and using mechanical cash registers. Life went on as normal. Now with electronic payment and automatic doors there have been incidences of stores shutting due to a temporary local power cut.

Whats Woolworths?


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:24 pm
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what's 41 years ago?


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:26 pm
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It was a department store. You're making me feel very old... Probably because I am old enough to remember the 70s power cuts. The first few were a novelty, and then the novelty wore off...


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:28 pm
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willard - bullet proof ones.

i mind we had a powercut one new years eve i worked on the bar back home.

we just got candles out , a cash float and did the maths manually and the band kept playing their instruments.

a good night was had by all


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:43 pm
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41 years ago people were still struggling with decimalization.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:45 pm
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[quote=mudshark ]41 years ago people were still struggling with decimalization.
and some people from 41 years ago are still struggling with decimalisation


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:47 pm
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Frankly, i blame the Greens!

When asked "do you want nuclear power" they all shouted "NO".

Unfortunately, they didn't actually wait to hear the rest of the question which was "OR electricity blackouts, lawlessness and resulting zombie apocalypse"


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 1:54 pm
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I have an incredibly acute blue sky thinking suggestion.

it's going to be a bit of a shock for most people and I don't suppose it's going to gain a huge amount of traction but here goes anyway.

Could we, you know, use less electricity?

Nah sorry, what a silly suggestion. Expecting people to contribute towards their own well being. Forget I asked.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 2:00 pm
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Could we, you know, use less electricity?

Oh the irony of stating that on an internet forum!


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 2:32 pm
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Could we, you know, use less electricity?

That would be like asking people to use their cars less and walk, stupid boy.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 2:43 pm
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Could we, you know, use less electricity?

All part of the new Green Conservatives. They're reducing benefits to zero, which will mean that the poor can no longer afford any fuel (or food), so gas and electric consumption will fall, hence reducing our CO2 usage. There will be a slight blib caused by their decomposing bodies, but once we're over that, it's Green all the way!


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 2:49 pm
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Can we burn the bodies for fuel?

I assume they'll be full of chip fat


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 2:57 pm
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Interesting. Lighting is all electric, but cooking and heating are gas, so I've a little diversity of supply. We have a coal fire, and I keep a stock of heating coal but not more than 5 days worth I shouldn't think. I have candles, again not very many. Also I've got things like double glazing, sleeping bags, flashlights and a good store of tools.

I've no resilience at all in terms of food supplies. Couple of days of disruption to supply chains would see me getting pretty stressed.

Assuming I've got food, and there aren't any zombies to worry about though I'd basically be alright I think. I go to bed early, exercise quite a lot, mind my garden, talk to people and indulge in occasional copulation. None of that [i]needs[/i] a lot of power.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 4:24 pm
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This has nothing to do with the news that there is predicted large amounts of shale gas in the country. Just under every national park.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 4:38 pm
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BigDummy, I'd recommend stocking-up with at least two weeks' worth of food. The shops close early when the sh*t hits the fan.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 5:02 pm
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That seems wise. It is good to think on these matters.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 5:04 pm
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Too late. Just got back from the supermarket. The shelves are empty. Not a candle, torch, lantern to be had. Bread and milk totally sold out. A few fans to be had though...


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 5:12 pm
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Not forgetting your water storage. You never know...


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 5:13 pm
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[i]Ah, that'll be our super privatised electricity companies at work...[/i]

Or the last 30 years worth of Govt's not actually having a strategy that ensured we'd adequate power plants - plus signing up to agreements to reduce co2 etc without having a 'plan' for generate enough electricity.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 5:20 pm
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Multi fuel been in for years, generator in van. That'll easily run the c/h boiler and a kettle at a push...


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 6:47 pm
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Multi fuel been in for years, generator in van. That'll easily run the c/h boiler and a kettle at a push...


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 6:49 pm
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Living down the road from a large electric steelworks with 4 huge furnaces all requireing hugeamounts of power power curts where frequent to keep it going, i can remember the petrol pumps with big wind up handles in the front to turn repeatedly for fuel, the same with the tills, there would be a rush for parafin and candles, torch batteries where expensive and non rechargeable, we boiled water on an open fire for tea, and went to the local chippy for food lit with parafin lamps.
Not many people had fridges or freezers,and computers hadnt been invented.

Oh happy days.

Oh and if the power goes off how is the sewage going to be pumped and also the gas and water.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 7:02 pm
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Is this press release purely coincidental out at the same time as the Shale Gas is our saviour press release.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 7:07 pm
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I'll be stuffed

But I think they mean power cuts to large users who have accepted the risk as part of their contracts


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 7:12 pm
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With a torch, but I will most likely be out turning it off anyway....


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 7:54 pm
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[I]Is this press release purely coincidental out at the same time as the Shale Gas is our saviour press release. [i/]

No, its to coincide with ALDI selling petrol generators 🙂

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thursday-specialbuys-4th-july/product-detail/ps/p/800w-generator/

Get your stocks of 2-stroke oil in.


 
Posted : 27/06/2013 9:50 pm
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dear lord - how many folk are going to cause sparks bodging them into their houses......

More so - where are they going to get their fuel from 😉


 
Posted : 28/06/2013 6:32 am
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[i]Oh and if the power goes off how is the sewage going to be pumped and also the gas and water.[/i]

All the Water and sewage companies are building large power generation programs as we speak. Your water company and Thames water are the two big leaders in this field and both have some huge poo to power generation facilities which not only make the sewage works where they reside carbon neutral, but actually contribute to the national grid.

UU's largest at Davyhulme (you'll see the two huge methane domes as you drive over Barton bridge), generates 9MW. There are more smaller ones around the region. Over your way, Ellesmere port and Bromborough both have CHP units that are working their way to making the plants carbon neutral and beyond.

There are further huge scale biomass energy generation plants being built to process organic refuse. Teeside and Widnes have both been targeted as locations for multi-megawatt generation facilities.

Further to this, all large electricity users are being approached for discussions on how they can manage their facilities to avoid brown outs at peak periods already. So for example, a supermarket chain that uses lots of refrigeration units, could agree to allow them to be automatically spun down slightly during periods of high demand to ensure the grid does not drop below an acceptable level. Large businesses like water companies, steel works and the like are also areas where demand can be smoothed out to help balance the load.

The original bbc article suggests there will be blackouts...if nothing is done but there is plenty being done which that article does not take into account.


 
Posted : 28/06/2013 6:51 am
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handy for caravanning, camping, domestic power cuts and more.

@ 92dB they're having a laugh! 😯

Honda EU10i 1,000W @ 52dB

Only costs 14x as much though 😉


 
Posted : 28/06/2013 7:01 am
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More BBC propaganda to prepare us for what? Fracking and a bigger nuclear programme I suspect.

I'd cope fine, I'd just have to run everything electrical in the day and remember to charge the bike lights and car battery. A wood burner I can cook on and solar panels that produce nearly double the electricity I consume make us self-sufficient in energy.


 
Posted : 28/06/2013 7:37 am

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