[Closed] Poetic justice and trying to get away with not having your kerb lowered

Not even sure why this was a news story in the first place then it gets regurgitated here too.

Clearly you didn't read it. The lamp post was already there before she paved her front and put a gate in. A non story.

Clearly you didn't read it. The lamp post was already there before she paved her front and put a gate in. A non story.

It's understandable on STW that people comment on stuff without fully reading links.

But it's not normally the OP that doesn't read his own link properly 😀

What story?

Clearly you didn't read it. The lamp post was already there before she paved her front and put a gate in. A non story.

I read it. Clearly you didn't understand the implications.

When having a drive 'installed' on one's property, one always asks the council about getting the kerb lowered FIRST. The only reason not to ask first is if you're one of those oiks who has no intention of having it done.

But it's not normally the OP that doesn't read his own link properly

See above. Try to keep up people (slaps heads and rolls eyes).

When having a drive 'installed' on one's property, one always asks the council about getting the kerb lowered [s]FIRST[/s] [i]at the same time and usually not immediately after said council has put in a lamp-post[/i]

"This lamp-post was put in by the council, [b]I had a small wall there at first.[/b]
"The contractor for the driveway said that [b]he was going to put in to the council to have a dropped kerb and he's going to apply for the lamp post to be moved as well[/b]

We are grateful to the householder for acknowledging that her [b]driveway was laid some time after the street light column was installed[/b]," the spokeswoman said.

"[b]She has submitted a request this week for work to be carried out on the footway[/b] to enable vehicle access to and from the highway

The only reason not to ask first is if you're one of those oiks who has no intention of having it done.

So (having read the story) you think she is "one of those oiks" who has no intention of doing things officially with the council ?

Even though in the story it clearly says that she has already applied to the council.

You think She's planning on using the driveway with a lamp post right in the middle of the entrance (that was already there)

(Wonders about slapping head and rolling eyes, but decides against it in favour of scratching head and wondering if you really read the story)

I currently live in a newish development where no one has a dropped kerb to any of their driveways but there is tarmac laid in the gutter at them all oikstyle.Bizarrely the lampost on the pavement outside one house is on bang in the middle of the footpath that leads to the front door.
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Hare+Court,+Todmorden&hl=en&ll=53.720482,-2.104633&spn=0.006374,0.013475&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=6.517469,13.798828&oq=hare+court&hnear=Hare+Ct,+Todmorden,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.721377,-2.106252&panoid=zVTSzFR-ycAn3FL-Ni7xTA&cbp=12,0,,0,0

see - nick1962 has a story 😀

Err. . . isn't there dropped kerb access to the left of the lamp already?

Looks like contractor demolished wrong part of wall, to me!

sounds more like contractor did the job regardless to make sure they got paid first. More of a story than making words up to go with a link

I'll start again.

If you want a drive on your property you apply for the lowered kerb FIRST. They are NOT automatically granted. Some are refused.

The home owner didn't. The drive installer, who would have know that permission is sometimes refused, also didn't.

Now why would that be?

Most probably because the home owner, like many unscrupulous non-law abiding householders, couldn't care less if the lowered kerb application would be refused, because she wasn't going to apply to have the kerb lowered.

Most probably because the home owner, like many unscrupulous non-law abiding householders, couldn't care less if the lowered kerb application would be refused, because she wasn't going to apply to have the kerb lowered.

"The contractor for the driveway said that he was going to put in to the council to have a dropped kerb and he's going to apply for the lamp post to be moved as well.

Or more logically, she had no idea what the rules were and paid somebody to sort it out for her. The contractor was either unaware of the rules (probably not) or knew that he got his money for installing the driveway not for moving the lamppost or getting the dropped kerb installed.

But I forgot this is the internet - BURN THE WITCH!!!

the home owner, like many unscrupulous non-law abiding householders, couldn't care less

there's only one way to deal with these vile and diseased animals - a good old American History X kerb stomp

Thanks for starting again.

Makes as much sense as it did the first time though I'm afraid.

Most probably because the home owner, like many unscrupulous non-law abiding householders, couldn't care less if the lowered kerb application would be refused, because she wasn't going to apply to have the kerb lowered.

She knew there was a lamp post there before the work started.

How do you think she was going to ask for that to be removed without asking for a dropped kerb to be installed ?

Also ...... It says in the story that [b]she has already applied for the dropped kerb and the light to be moved [/b]after the drive was done (before it was a "news" story)

So.

Even [b]after she has applied [/b]to have a dropped kerb installed, are you still suggesting that she's not planning to apply have a dropped kerb installed ??

£5 says this is TuckerUK's Mother in Law 🙂

She knew there was a lamp post there before the work started.

But not until after she'd "already arranged for the drive to be put in" and presumably paid some money towards it. I'm not sure why you're finding it so hard to understand TuckerUK's suggestion that she (or her contractor) wouldn't have bothered to apply for a dropped kerb if they hadn't put the lamp post in. Of course they've applied for that now otherwise it would be unusable 🙄 However I think he's got quite a reasonable point that the order of events suggests a likelihood of no application going in if her hand hadn't been forced.

FFS, the kerb is already dropped! Some stupid ****wit built a wall in front of it! 🙂

I'm not sure why you're finding it so hard to understand TuckerUK's suggestion

Maybe it's because he keeps changing his mind ?

First post he was suggesting the council installed the lamp post at the end of the driveway because she hadn't had a dropped kerb put in.
Then realised that wasn't the way it happened so he changed his mind and started with the guesswork about her application intentions.

And the first story underneath: Bad craic.. [url= http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-22356920 ]Back on topic and very sad.[/url]

But not until after she'd "already arranged for the drive to be put in" and presumably paid some money towards it.

I'm not sure why you're finding it so hard to understand TuckerUK's suggestion that she (or her contractor) wouldn't have bothered to apply for a dropped kerb if they hadn't put the lamp post in.

Of course they've applied for that now otherwise it would be unusable However I think he's got quite a reasonable point that the order of events suggests a likelihood of no application going in if her hand hadn't been forced.

Also an interesting link User-Removed looks like another one for the wild speculation monkeys/bots to get stuck into.

No. A kid died. Possibly due to malfunctioning brakes, possibly not. Either way, it knocks any talk of lowered kerbs into a cocked hat. I mean, honestly.

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No. A kid died. Possibly due to malfunctioning brakes, possibly not. Either way, it knocks any talk of lowered kerbs into a cocked hat. I mean, honestly.

It seems an interesting way to kill a thread?

I hear you Trampus. I thought exactly the same when I saw the picture. Why have a drive that doesn't line up with the dropped kerb. More to this than meets the eye.

you're one of those oiks who has no intention of having it done

Why should you have to have it done?

I took my front wall down and dug off the garden and stoned it up, I had a letter off the council within a week stating that I was breaking "the law" by crossing a non dropped kerb with a vehicle. I slapped face and rolled eyes as I'd put the application in but they (council) were too stupid to check applications. Probably all down to a do gooder driving by and reporting me....

[i]If you want a drive on your property you apply for the lowered kerb FIRST. They are NOT automatically granted. Some are refused.
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Mate at work did driveways as a side line. He did a crescent block paved driveway with double gates/two entrances, however when he applied to drop the kerb it was refused due to proximity of a junction, and the customer ended up with a dead ended driveway, presumably with no turning area where there could have been space for one, and he ended up out of pocket (I think!)

Where I park at the nursery. A householder has laid flagging at the side of his house on what looks like public Lawn/space. Infront is a 6inch+ kerb (unlowered). He parks his Disco3 there and I always block him in with my C1 (not by choice/nowhere else to park). Its a public highway etc so forget 'nursey parents causing issue to locals'.

No ones said anything to me as yet..... 🙂

I would just back disco over puny c1 if I needed to get out 😉

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Hora, that doesnt even look like their land. Fair play, I'd do the same, but im a spiteful bastard.

My mum's local council had a good scam going where they toured the local area looking for driveways, old and new, without dropped kerbs, then instructed the owners to get them dropped using their 'approved' contractors, both of which happened to charge approximately 100% more than any other quote for the work.

If they are waiting for permission its been a bloody long time though. Its been there months+ like that.

To me i looks like she's trying to force their hand into moving the lampost which probably shines stright into her bedroom window. Can't say I blame her. Taking out another 4 or 5 foot of wall to the left would allow her to come in on an angle.

He parks his Disco3 there

And let's be clear here - this is an old lady whose husband had died, trying to make it easy for her children to park at her house when they go visiting and probably just put way too much trust in what the contractors would do for her.

I feel sorry for her.

I love Singletrackworld, me.

If you don't have the kerb lowered are you still allowed to drive across the pavement to access your driveway ?

I just read the end of the article
[b]"We will ensure that the works to provide a dropped kerb and to relocate the street light are co-ordinated to keep costs and any inconvenience to a minimum."[/b]

Thread over?

If you don't have the kerb lowered are you still allowed to drive across the pavement to access your driveway ?

The OP is a really sad story (around the corner from me an OAP was ripped off for 10k for a home alarm installation). I got one installed for £300 in a small office. I bet councils daily have to deal with people who go ahead and hope for the best. On that pic I posted ALOT of the houses down that road dont have drop kerbs but they've converted their drives.

To me i looks like she's trying to force their hand

And either way, I don't see the poetic justice.

To me it looks like an old dear get ripped off of a few grand, but gloat all you want.
And either way, I don't see the poetic justice.

Exactly how I read it.

If you don't have the kerb lowered are you still allowed to drive across the pavement to access your driveway ?