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[Closed] Plumbers, what's this bit called? Also, can I get a replacement?

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 bigG
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So the cold tap on our Valpra bath mixer tap is spinning on the spindle and the tap isn't turning on or off. Had a plumber out today who reckons we need a whole new tap and he needs to break through the wall from the next door room to get access.

Now the issue seems to be the white plastic collar has a spline on the inner part which grabs the top of the tap cartridge. The outer part has a spline which grips the inner part of the tap head.

It's the smaller inner splines which are worn. Can I use PTFE to create more of a grip, or even better can I get a replacement for the white collar?

Understandably I'm not keen on starting to knock through walls in order to fix what seems like a relatively small part (worst case scenario I can bung a set of molegrips on the tap and use those I guess)

Any thoughts on how to repair?

Thanks in anticipation of the usual comedy grouting / mixer tap / beige tiles comments and hopefully some help

G

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Posted : 04/10/2017 5:32 pm
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does said piece ever need to come off the splines again ..... superglue or some form of epoxy suitable for the two materials....


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 5:38 pm
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Edit. Read the question.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 5:57 pm
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Can I use PTFE to create more of a grip

In the time taken to ask the question you probably could have found out. (-: It's probably what I'd do TBH. You mean the inside of the tap knob is worn, yes?


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 6:07 pm
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IF you can identify the tap,buy a new one and use for spares,saves damaging the wall.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 6:08 pm
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The part you need is a ceramic tap insert. Typically anything from £5 to £25.
I cant see why anyone would need to break out the back to get access to it, it unscrews from the top.
Search the make/model for the tap, and you should be able to get the correct insert.
Otherwise, turn off the water, take out the insert, then take it to a good plumbers merchant who will be able to match one up for you - there are many different sizes, with slight differences, so you cant just say 'it looks like that'.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 6:11 pm
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Had this happen to a very similar tap. Ptfe tape will work for a few days but soon let go.

I use a bit of tin foil wrapped around the spindle. Tap the plastic bit down so it's nice and snug job done.

It has lasted a couple years so far so when it eventually let's go will just superglue / epoxy the bugger on.

Another option I tried is a washer under the screw head to clamp the plastic bit down against the shoulder at the bottom. This worked for a bit too.

So to conclude.... Try tin foil packing.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 6:16 pm
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The correct answer is unscrew the insert as suggested.

The second mist correct answer is sugru


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 6:19 pm
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Take the screw out and pull the plastic insert off

It should look like this??

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Most likely the plastic splines that grip the brass have gone. The plastic bit is called a "Head Carrier'

http://www.plumbers-mate-sales.co.uk/snap-on-plastic-spine-adapter-tap-head-carrier---62003634-4109-p.asp


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 6:22 pm
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you'll have to measure it & count the splines.... then try matching up.

Theres a few options on this page;

http://www.plumbers-mate-sales.co.uk/tap-spares-71-c.asp

(some people call them carriers, some call them spline adapters).

Failing that, glue the [I have a potty mouth] with epoxy.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 6:25 pm
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Not a plumber but had exact same issue recently. First option was http://www.shop.lunns.net/head-carriers-for-tap-handles-49-c.asp
Recommended by a friend who's in trade.

In the end I phone Victoria plumb who sent out a new one FOC.


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 7:08 pm
 bigG
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Thanks all. I knew the mass minds of STW would come up with solutions.

I've tried the tinfoil fix which will hopefully hold until I can source the appropriate carrier.

Cheers all

G


 
Posted : 04/10/2017 7:51 pm

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